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No, I didn't expect him to win. After seeing the weight up to the semis I knew he would lose by some distance. What I mean is before the tournament I thought 61 was a bunch of guys who, in the absence of Ono, could all beat each other and it would be a bunch of close matches. Instead it turned out that if they wrestled that bracket 10 times Uguev would win it all 10 times.

Yep. And earlier in the period was worse, he just sat there on the mat for maybe 20 seconds, ignoring the ref's instructions to get up and wrestle. I feel like we're so used to this happening to Americans that we're numb to it, I was surprised to come here and see the reaction and have it be so tame. The ref himself said there was a singlet pull (not at the end, one of the earlier referenced of the three comical action stops) which as I understand it is a point.

The three together is so much better truthly for them. If your honest can change a program. If them 3 go how many more will follow? Hope Nebraska or ok state push psu

I just read that the shooter was secretly involved with Charlie Kirk in an intimate way and this was his revenge for Charlie not going public with the truth.

Very sad for you little Jimmy. You should ask your mom to pay more attention to you.

Gee the guy who shot Charlie Kirk what was his ethnicity again?

I just see you post and it says "I like any attention at all!"

I think little Jimmy is in remedial high school English.

He doesn't pretend. He really is that stupid.

He, literally, said: "if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore," Which is, of course, ridiculous. Breaking into the Capitol Building wasn't going to save the country. And not breaking into it wasn't going to somehow forfeit our country. There was never any threat of "not going to have a country" anymore. That was just crazy stupid politician talk. How could you possibly not know that? It's on the internet and will be in the history books forever. Pretending to be dumber than you already are? That's a low bar to crawl under.

OK - old white christian guy supporter. Maybe do this. Let's try to not post as if everything needs to be a stream of consciousness. Break your points into separate sentences, or even separate paragraphs, so others can participate in the discussion. Otherwise, it's just a bunch of mush - like the brains of Trump/Biden. You need to articulate better than an 80yr old. (My apologizes if I accidentally discovered something.) (Remember in HS English class, when you wondered why you'd ever need to know this stuff? This is why.)

Looks like Turkey is cooked. They have been a Freestyle wrestling power since the 1940s (80 years), and now that Akgul is retired, they don't have much of anyone. Heavyweight is also the outlier weight class that let's you get away with a really good athlete and not the greatest wrestling scene. Is Russia no longer the pinnacle? Is it the war? Their top performers are in their 30s and the transfers are beating the home reps. Could be a new era where Russia is battling it out with the other top nations, instead of the dominant power. For all the talk of systems, I don't think the Russian version of relying on 2 or 3 small provinces is perfect either.

All good thanks - I’m delighted he came through for you …

Dominate? Have you checked the projected team score this year? Do not confuse our renaissance generation for historical results. They won a SINGLE team title with all pistons firing. ONE. You are a fool.

Why is everyone, including myself earlier this morning ("he will put up points but not a concern"), discounting Haruntunyan? He has a track record of bringing it and lights up the scoreboard. Yeah we all, myself loudest, thought Spencer Lee = Gold or bust. But everyone runs into a buzzsaw. Micic in 23 is a prime example. It happens and worlds is 10x tougher than olympics because the brackets are absolutely nails. I do think a change of scenery would be not bad, but Iowa would be petty as $hit about it after he signed his competitive life over to them. I also think that Bob can't buy the partners he needs, which is why he should leave. His coaching is not the issue.

It's not going to get overturned. The precedent has consistently been to avoid Kolat-esque post-match experiences. This did not go our way in a very crappy manner, but overall UWW has been a significant step up from FILA in pretty much every facet including sketchy match endings being finalized with a winner getting their hand raised on the mat. The only circumstance I can recall was the blatant, proven sham reffing at 2024 Euro olympic qualifier.

Still having Gilman and real woods in the room would definitely be nice. The brands dropped the ball there. However they did coach him to an Olympic silver. Spencer has good enough training partners and everything he needs to win at HWC, he just needs to put it all together.

Many of our top guys have other commitments -- either they're still in school, or they need to work (since they don't have funding) so they don't have time, or they need funds. Lee has none of those limitations. Also, some have excellent training situations where they are, so getting international competition is less important. Not the case with Lee. Keisuke Otoguro? The 74kg'er? Somehow I doubt he's much of a practice partner for Spencer. I think the younger brother Takuto visited briefly too, which is nice, but he was a 65kg'er back when he was competing, so I'm guessing it was mostly light sparring as he's probably pretty big for live goes. Both are true. No doubt he's had his share of injuries, and Iowa sure squeezed all they could get out of him collegiately. But if he's going to bring home gold, they need stop throwing cupcakes at him, and let him battle guys that can beat him. I sense he's treated as mentally fragile, too. But is he so fragile? This is a guy who's battled through injuries, wrestled on no ACLs and a bum shoulder, and hasn't ducked anyone. He's a warrior. So why this need to build up his confidence? I honestly think his low-ish confidence is part of the reason he's had such success, as he's constantly trying to prove himself. So it drives me nuts when Brands won't shut up in interviews about how he's the greatest wrestler ever. Listen to the beginning of the Harutyunyan match, and you hear Brands yapping about how Spencer's better than him in every position. Then he goes out and proceeds to get outwrestled by Harutyunyan in every position. Honestly, is it really necessary, or even helpful, to prop up Lee with all that BS? It's like you could hear all the air going out of the balloon when he got sored on, as reality set in. Maybe if he were thrown in the lion's den in practice every day with live goes with guys that can beat him, and he consistently came out on top, he'd *know* he's the best without having to be told. Maybe if he's told that some guys are better than him, so he needs to get better too, he'd be motivated to improved. Oh I dunno, I'm just thinking of who OSU would swap for Spencer for 6 months, since I'm trying to offer up options besides leaving Iowa City. Not sure who Wyatt really has to roll around with in Stillwater except Taylor, who isn't exactly a HWT, so maybe Wyatt would benefit from rolling around with Keuter a while. Dreshaun's a tough cat too. Wyatt can only tech-pin Doucet so many times before he needs a new look. Glad to hear. Including live goes? Last I knew, Drake's mom was salty that the Powers That Be wouldn't let Spencer practice with Drake, but that's a couple years ago. Drake's surely a better option than Cruz, though has he wrestled freestyle since Fargo? I sort of doubt Drake's going mimicking Harutyunyan in practice anytime soon. I'll take that.

If a package deal, I'm thinking it's Melvin the schools are really interested in.

Because it is a bubble…

Hope you are well sir

The only thing I'm very confident of is these people require a lot of stroking. I think some of the other programs realized they're not ready to be a coach/cheerleader/psychiatrist/court jester/travel agent for the whole family.

I was just thinking earlier how weird its going to be if they hit at the open next year when they have a few months of high school left. Assuming Jax goes up not sure that he will I know he said 141/149 for college. He mentioned in the Flo interview he walks around anywhere from low to high 140's

any guesses how this goes for Jax? Sounds like there is not really a precedent.

LOL How upset is dad that Forrest has eclipsed him and then some. Allegedly that was part of the issue with the Iowa situation...