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Definitely some chin needing wiped in this thread. Ooof.

So porn stars can't be paid ... who knew?

The women Clinton was connected to were nowhere close to Trump’s.

Let's look at the last white conservatives terrorist activities. Can someone on here provide those please? Names and dates. mspart

The donors on the list are more important than politicians here. That's the number one reason so many people in both parties have an interest in keeping the list secret. If their donors are publicly on the list, they can't keep taking money. Electioneering is a billion dollar industry in this country. Summer houses in the Hamptons rely on that money flowing. The political class can't afford to lose Les Wexner or Glenn Dubin's money.

Even if what you imply is true, there’s nothing illegal about it.

The Martin sounds interesting. Tell us more. I have a body of a telecaster (I cut it out) that I could still make into a guitar. It has been sitting in my shed for years. Perhaps I'll do something similar. I would buy the neck and electronics. Problem is I can't see well anymore and would not be sure any soldering would work right. My roomate and I had a guitar making company in college that went nowhere but the basic idea was to get rid of soldering. We were going to use quick disconnect connectors that slide together. That way pickups could be changed quickly, same with pots. I was going to use the ME shop to make the bodies and we had a license to get parts wholesale. But it was of course a fools errand. I still think the quick disconnect idea is good, but there must be a reason that isn't used much. mspart

Bill Clinton - famously had a hard time picking up women lol. The cope on this is going to be unreal. You guys are such clowns. You should be pissed. He made a promise and he's not keeping it.

Let's look at the arguments when the 14th amendment was being drafted. https://mylegalwriting.com/2025/01/22/repost-birthright-citizenship-and-the-fourteenth-amendment/ Of particular importance to the Fourteenth Amendment’s citizenship clause was the phrase “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof,” which limited citizenship to children whose parents owed allegiance to the United States. Mere birth within the United States was not enough, since this would extend the privileges and immunities of citizenship even to the children of visiting diplomats or other persons having no kinship with our country. Senator Jacob Merritt Howard, who introduced the amendment for debate, explained as follows: This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. Another way of phrasing the function of the “citizenship clause” was provided by then-Senator Reverdy Johnson, who observed: Now, all this amendment provides is, that all persons born in the United States and not subject to some foreign power – for that, no doubt, is the meaning of the committee who have brought the matter before us – shall be considered as citizens of the United States. . . . The Supreme Court also took note of the limited reach of the “citizenship clause” as follows: The phrase, “subject to its jurisdiction” was intended to exclude from its operation children of ministers, consuls, and citizens or subjects of foreign States born within the United States. Slaughter-House Cases, 83 U.S. at 73. So the understanding at the time the amendment became and amendment, it was that children of foreigners that were born in the US were not citizens by the 14th Amendment. The clause which states, "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, meant that non citizens having a child in the US did not make the child a citizen. This was part of the original arguments and understanding at the time. This coincides with Trumps EO regarding birthright citizenship. It seems clear that this is what the framers of the amendment understood. mspart

Must be why he was secretly paying off porn stars into the 6 figures.

Dunno if this camp is still happening next week: https://www.newberrywrestlingcamps.com/the-carter-starocci-camps.cfm

https://www.poconorecord.com/picture-gallery/sports/high-school/2025/06/30/photos-carter-starocci-wrestling-camp-brodheadsville-poconos-carmen-mercadante/84422356007/ EDIT: sorry, the one with Bartlett, Yianni, and Lovett was called True Champ Camp. Wrong champy camp. But the point still remains, Starocci is still out there teaching at camps and repping PSU wrestling, which is a little odd.

They do police what universities are allowed to do. They do not police an individual athlete receiving however much money for doing a thing.

Is CARA still a thing in NCAA sports? It's pretty hard for coaches to require athletes to come in and practice or train at this time of year. I know a coach can "allow" kids to come in during the offseason for "voluntary" practice sessions, wink-wink nudge-nudge, but punishing them for not showing up is a little bit out of bounds. Like I get the hypothesis that Iowa might've been looking for any excuse to let Gabe go, but attendance seems like a shaky reason, esp for a program that allowed an assistant coach's kid to skip out on a mandatory compliance meeting not so long ago.

Hiliary’s more likely to be on the list than Trump. Trump’s always been a good looking rich guy who didn’t have any problem getting beautiful women.

Also, Bartlett is(was) not a champ, so I don't think he should have been there anyways...?

Honestly, I don't know what's true anymore. Lovett was poking fun at stuff and had posted something with Starocci replaced with Johnny D. I don't know if that actually happened.

That would be impossible. People were using the camp as proof that Beau's wife Syd was making the whole thing up. What are those people supposed to do now?

Starocci was replaced with Johnny D last I saw.

The contorted the law to get any loose charges to Stick. I just don’t believe you. But hey. We really don’t know what’s in there anyhow so it’s really moot

All fair points. Another one I put right there with him is ASU's Manville.

The story seems to have been spiked at least for now. Stuff like this spreads quickly through the mainstream & sports media, but there hasn't been very much about it in the news. Starocci was also at the Camp of Champs clinic last week. Dunno if Bartlett (I assume not) or Lovett or anyone else was there. Not even a statement from PSU Athletics denying or that they're even investigating the charges. The quietness is kinda strange

I’ve got an old Jackson JTX that I modified by changing the bridge and all the electronics and controls to Telecastor components. The pickups are DiMarzio. My favorite though, is my Martin D35. I installed an L R Baggs in it that has both a microphonic and a piezo pickup that has a volume and blend controls. I can play it through any amp and get the sound right. Then I’ve got a Yamaha acoustic that’s for when I don’t want to break out the good one.

Because it would open the door to their own implications. You agreed with it above, the things they would rather have happen than risk their own individual power.