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Yeah, it's just so insane that they have just 6 weights. Nolf... I feel like 154 would a great weight for him. There are so many guys who are stuck between weights, it's just ridiculous. I don't have all the good examples, others would have more, but... going back to 10 would be great. Dake, Taylor...even Howe was a monster behind JB at 74 and would have(or did) all thrive at 79 or in DT case, 86. But not after burning several years. As for Brooks-Hidlay, I'd love to see them Wrestle again... but you just stain your own legacy so badly, it's sad Brooks felt the need to cheat. I didn't really get why he was going 97KG to begin with, but... this is about Hidlay and it's cool to see him break through(now...can we get Fix to do so!)
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Morbid celebration of ideological murder
GreatWhiteNorth replied to Caveira's topic in Non Wrestling Topics
There it is. In the simplest of terms, and as direct as possible, nicely done... "Yes Kirk was tasteless and blunt" - Today
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Or... bring Logan Stieber to Iowa. Everyone's throwing out Dake, Burroughs. Why not a guy like Stieber? I get he's probably in line at OSU, but you can coach at a rival. Metcalf did it, Ryan, Gable, naming more would be pointless as it's not a point of contention. I don't see Iowa moving away from the Brands though... which would be pretty bold.
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So was the Starocci thing a fluke...???
scourge165 replied to The_KC_Godfather's topic in College Wrestling
Well... I hadn't heard that, but... doing something harmful to yourself still isn't the same as hurting others or running your mouth. Plus, it seems pretty speculative. You get the idea though. -
Trump's DOJ wants to criminalize free speech
nick replied to Tripnsweep's topic in Non Wrestling Topics
AG Bondi did not have a good few days talking about criminalizing hate speech... I tried to include sources from all over the spectrum https://www.politico.com/news/2025/09/16/pam-bondi-first-amendment-hate-speech-prosecution-00566424 https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bondi-hate-speech-remarks-spark-torrent-criticism-from-conservatives https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5506041-mike-johnson-pam-bondi-hate-speech-comments/ https://newrepublic.com/post/200502/maga-right-reaction-pam-bondi-hate-speech-free-speech https://www.thefire.org/news/why-everything-pam-bondi-said-about-hate-speech-wrong https://x.com/repthomasmassie/status/1967946533770551390?s=46 https://x.com/sav_says_/status/1967806738427678757 I saw she attempted to walk it back, but not a good look on her part -
I thought the team photos offered some interesting insights into the different philosophies of the teams. Irans team photo was just the coaches, a large retinue of professional looking middle aged men who wouldn't look out of place in North American or Western European professional sports teams. The American photo puts the wrestlers front and center but has a few grizzled coaches flanking the team. Japan looks like it's athlete driven and amateurish. As if athletes and seconds doubled up as coaches in their warm up gear, a self lead an scholastic vibes. The coaches are just barely in frame in the far right.
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Addendum to the above. I just had a look and as a sophomore at Cheesehead he also lost to Logan Swensen from Minnesota and Tommy Verrette from Colorado/Oklahoma, who is more of a Greco specialist. Undefeated freshman, 2 losses as a soph, one as a junior. Probably about 150-3 heading into senior year.
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Should federal workers be fired for criticizing charlie kirk?
ionel replied to red viking's topic in Non Wrestling Topics
What about mocking? https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2025/09/16/gov-abbott-calls-for-immediate-action-against-apparent-student-who-mocked-charlie-kirks-death-on-txst-campus/ -
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No clue, but he didn’t look right, some people suggested that he just got out wrestled, but it looked like he just got manhandled to me. So I don’t know what happened, maybe a bad weight cut, maybe he overtrained and was just stale. I don’t have any insight or information about any specific health issues regarding Spencer but I have suspected for some time that there is something else going on with him besides his bad knees.
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Find me a video of republican kids ages 6 - 13ish wishing Biden or Obama or Clinton dead. I bet you can’t
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Interesting vid of what’s going to happen to Tyler in prison https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8SPRjnE/ 00:00:00 --> 00:00:02 what will happen to Tyler Robinson in prison 00:00:02 --> 00:00:05 the man responsible for assassinating Charlie Kirk 00:00:05 --> 00:00:07 and do inmates care what do they feel 00:00:07 --> 00:00:09 look there's politics in prison 00:00:09 --> 00:00:12 you got the nietas the Kings blood 00:00:12 --> 00:00:13 the Crips the one twos 00:00:13 --> 00:00:15 the South Sides the 13 00:00:15 --> 00:00:16 the G d's the B D's 00:00:16 --> 00:00:17 the insane Gangster Disciples 00:00:17 --> 00:00:20 so on and so on and when they see something like that 00:00:21 --> 00:00:25 they're gonna extort you they're gonna see all these people donating money 00:00:25 --> 00:00:28 coming to visit you and immediately send people out in the streets 00:00:28 --> 00:00:30 to tell them they have to bring this in 00:00:30 --> 00:00:32 that in and that's what it's gonna be 00:00:32 --> 00:00:33 and if they don't want to 00:00:33 --> 00:00:34 they'll go after their families 00:00:34 --> 00:00:35 and I know y'all say well 00:00:35 --> 00:00:37 that's messed up that's not right 00:00:37 --> 00:00:41 this is prison when you kill someone or hurt someone or rape someone 00:00:41 --> 00:00:43 your whole entire family is now involved with it 00:00:43 --> 00:00:44 you shouldn't have did it 00:00:44 --> 00:00:46 now I understand from the other side 00:00:46 --> 00:00:49 you know how people feel but this is strictly how it goes in prison 00:00:50 --> 00:00:52 nobody knows who Charlie Kirk is to them 00:00:52 --> 00:00:54 the debater guy I don't give a fuck 00:00:54 --> 00:00:57 they wanna know how they can make a power play out of this 00:00:57 --> 00:00:59 some dudes would do the friendly extortion 00:00:59 --> 00:01:02 the C OS might put him in a box somewhere and 00:01:02 --> 00:01:03 you know just to fuck with his head 00:01:03 --> 00:01:04 psychological warfare and 00:01:04 --> 00:01:06 and whoever's running the pound 00:01:06 --> 00:01:09 whatever organisations running the pound that the C OS work for 00:01:09 --> 00:01:10 you know he'll talk to him through the vent 00:01:10 --> 00:01:11 hey man 00:01:11 --> 00:01:12 I believe in what you did 00:01:12 --> 00:01:13 such and such you know 00:01:13 --> 00:01:15 hey can I get some numbers 00:01:15 --> 00:01:17 he gets some numbers he gets some cash apps 00:01:17 --> 00:01:19 and the extortion begins and there's no scopes in prison 00:01:19 --> 00:01:21 there's no discords in prison 00:01:21 --> 00:01:23 you gotta face everything head up 00:01:23 --> 00:01:24 you gotta be a lion and a fox 00:01:25 --> 00:01:27 you gotta be strong enough to fight the jackals 00:01:27 --> 00:01:29 but smart enough to watch out for the traps 00:01:30 --> 00:01:33 I mean you think you could take a piece of iron or a piece of glass 00:01:33 --> 00:01:34 look a dude in the face 00:01:34 --> 00:01:37 and hit him as many times as you can until he stops moving 00:01:37 --> 00:01:40 so they don't care about those politics out there 00:01:40 --> 00:01:43 it's survival everybody's a killer in there 00:01:43 --> 00:01:45 everybody's got a story to tell 00:01:45 --> 00:01:48 you might think certain inmates are okay cause they're smiling at the camera 00:01:48 --> 00:01:50 but that's because their life is in jeopardy 00:01:50 --> 00:01:52 their family's life is in jeopardy 00:01:52 --> 00:01:55 and they need to pay that to get a better understanding 00:01:55 --> 00:01:56 I talked to my brother 00:01:56 --> 00:01:59 who's finishing doing a long sentence at a Max custody unit 00:01:59 --> 00:02:04 most likely a place where this guy who assassinated Kirk will be at 00:02:04 --> 00:02:05 or at least similar to it 00:02:05 --> 00:02:07 and we talked about how hey 00:02:07 --> 00:02:10 look at Kane Velasquez how come King Velasquez 00:02:10 --> 00:02:12 whose son was molested nobody helped him 00:02:12 --> 00:02:15 no one had his back he tried to kill the dude 00:02:15 --> 00:02:16 he saw the dude chased him down 00:02:16 --> 00:02:19 shot the dad why wasn't he treated like a hero 00:02:19 --> 00:02:21 now they sent him to prison and forgot about him 00:02:22 --> 00:02:24 very interesting what my brother and I talk about 00:02:24 --> 00:02:26 I want y'all to listen to it and tell me what y'all think 00:02:27 --> 00:02:31 I understand the dude's been gone most of his life 00:02:31 --> 00:02:33 I grew up with him as he's my brother 00:02:33 --> 00:02:35 we both took different routes in life 00:02:35 --> 00:02:38 but we were in the state system together 00:02:38 --> 00:02:41 juvenile system together and he always stood by my side 00:02:41 --> 00:02:42 wrong or right 00:02:42 --> 00:02:45 and even though he's part of the organisations and I'm a lone wolf 00:02:45 --> 00:02:49 it's always been respect and we had a deep conversation 00:02:49 --> 00:02:52 and this is his opinion on the Charlie Kirk incident 00:02:52 --> 00:02:53 so I guess what I'm saying is this 00:02:53 --> 00:02:54 in the end you know 00:02:54 --> 00:02:56 cause I really gonna get into your story 00:02:56 --> 00:02:57 we gonna do an interview you know 00:02:57 --> 00:02:58 I know you know 00:02:58 --> 00:03:00 you at a hard spot right now 00:03:00 --> 00:03:00 and you know 00:03:00 --> 00:03:02 you coming home real soon 00:03:02 --> 00:03:03 and you know 00:03:03 --> 00:03:05 you gonna be part of the Viking mindset over here man 00:03:05 --> 00:03:06 and we got a lot of good music 00:03:06 --> 00:03:08 but you know 00:03:08 --> 00:03:09 the last question is this 00:03:09 --> 00:03:10 when someone comes in there 00:03:10 --> 00:03:15 and they think they did something that the whole world's gonna respect prison 00:03:15 --> 00:03:16 but they don't understand 00:03:16 --> 00:03:19 people in prison have a different set of politics 00:03:20 --> 00:03:25 you know and when you're part of an organisation and you know 00:03:25 --> 00:03:26 it's money power 00:03:26 --> 00:03:27 dope whatever it may be 00:03:27 --> 00:03:29 to thrive grow 00:03:29 --> 00:03:31 develop whatever it may be 00:03:31 --> 00:03:34 how easy is it to see somebody has no type of heart 00:03:34 --> 00:03:38 no pull has never experienced the type of violence that goes on in prison 00:03:38 --> 00:03:41 doesn't understand what it's like with a knife 00:03:41 --> 00:03:43 not a sniper rifle a knife 00:03:43 --> 00:03:45 until you put that iron in somebody 00:03:45 --> 00:03:46 you know 00:03:46 --> 00:03:50 how easy is it to find where anybody is nationwide and extort their families 00:03:50 --> 00:03:52 friends and them and visit some woods man 00:03:53 --> 00:03:55 you can't put no fake clothing on here cause everything's exposed 00:03:55 --> 00:03:57 we all have the same clothing 00:03:57 --> 00:04:00 handle business you killed a debater man 00:04:00 --> 00:04:02 and there's no take away from dude 00:04:02 --> 00:04:06 it's just the realities of prison is that everybody's a killer everybody 00:04:06 --> 00:04:08 everybody's part of something 00:04:08 --> 00:04:09 everybody's looking to put a knife in 00:04:09 --> 00:04:11 somebody in came Alaska is here 00:04:11 --> 00:04:12 he is killing a child molester 00:04:12 --> 00:04:14 and there's nobody taking heed in the streets 00:04:14 --> 00:04:18 but I guarantee everybody in prison is sending somebody to that house 00:04:18 --> 00:04:21 to extort that person and make sure shit goes right 00:04:21 --> 00:04:23 you got a gun to hide behind 00:04:23 --> 00:04:26 you got your buddies if you ain't got no knife you're in trouble 00:04:28 --> 00:04:32 exactly and that's what people fail to realise is that at the end of the day 00:04:32 --> 00:04:36 this clout you think you're getting because you killed Charlie Curtis 00:04:36 --> 00:04:37 you don't got it 00:04:37 --> 00:04:39 I'm sitting here with murderers everyday 00:04:39 --> 00:04:41 there's people in here who kill people everyday 00:04:41 --> 00:04:42 all the robbers all the killers 00:04:42 --> 00:04:44 the rapists that's what I'm around 00:04:44 --> 00:04:47 so who are you to come in here and tell you who are 00:04:47 --> 00:04:48 you're nobody you're 00:04:48 --> 00:04:49 who's gonna put the money in my 00:04:49 --> 00:04:52 by my locker next you're somebody who's gonna Pat my pocket 00:04:52 --> 00:04:54 the person who's gonna make sure I eat every night 00:04:54 --> 00:04:55 I mean let's be real 00:04:55 --> 00:04:57 when Kane Velasquez came to prison 00:04:57 --> 00:04:59 they didn't roll the red carpet out for him 00:04:59 --> 00:05:00 and he killed a John molester 00:05:00 --> 00:05:02 so if they're not rolling out the red carpet for someone 00:05:02 --> 00:05:04 who actually stepped on someone 00:05:04 --> 00:05:06 and smushed this person who's a 00:05:06 --> 00:05:07 an abomination in my opinion 00:05:07 --> 00:05:08 you know what I mean then 00:05:08 --> 00:05:10 then you're wasting my time 00:05:10 --> 00:05:13 like I said it's in the land of sheeps and wolves man 00:05:13 --> 00:05:14 you can't put no fake clothing on here 00:05:14 --> 00:05:15 cause everything's exposed 00:05:15 --> 00:05:18 we are the same clothing and let's be real bro 00:05:18 --> 00:05:23 you know how many times have we seen where 00:05:23 --> 00:05:24 you know I came in 00:05:24 --> 00:05:25 you came into the system we were young man 00:05:25 --> 00:05:27 we were kids we've had to stab people fight 00:05:27 --> 00:05:29 we went through hell broken bones 00:05:29 --> 00:05:31 youth authority wilds programs 00:05:32 --> 00:05:33 and you know 00:05:33 --> 00:05:35 it was hell on earth and we never broke 00:05:35 --> 00:05:38 we stood in that pain and we had to handle what comes our way 00:05:39 --> 00:05:41 now the opposite is this 00:05:42 --> 00:05:45 like you said a very good point is the clout 00:05:45 --> 00:05:46 oh you 00:05:46 --> 00:05:49 you think that clout is your thing 00:05:49 --> 00:05:51 well guess what they have in prison 00:05:51 --> 00:05:54 they have clout as well if I go when I see 00:05:54 --> 00:05:56 look at this dude man 00:05:56 --> 00:06:00 he in here for what killing somebody that nobody really knows about 00:06:00 --> 00:06:01 because no one could vote in there 00:06:01 --> 00:06:02 you know no 00:06:02 --> 00:06:05 everyone's literally taken away from their families 00:06:05 --> 00:06:06 you know a lot of the moms and 00:06:06 --> 00:06:07 and dads they 00:06:07 --> 00:06:09 they hide the kids from them man 00:06:09 --> 00:06:12 as a power control and you go and whack this dude 00:06:12 --> 00:06:13 well guess what 00:06:13 --> 00:06:15 you have a second part of your life 00:06:15 --> 00:06:17 you're famous now people know who got a history that 00:06:17 --> 00:06:19 you know it's not easily mass 00:06:19 --> 00:06:20 it's not easily you know man 00:06:20 --> 00:06:22 we know we came from the trenches 00:06:22 --> 00:06:25 we came from the street we came from the life we live 00:06:25 --> 00:06:28 that other people will never understand cause they haven't 00:06:30 --> 00:06:32 exactly at the end of the day 00:06:32 --> 00:06:34 you know to use your words 00:06:34 --> 00:06:36 you killed a debater you killed a politician 00:06:36 --> 00:06:38 you killed a person who no matter what her opinion is 00:06:39 --> 00:06:41 somebody may have valued what he was trying to do 00:06:41 --> 00:06:45 been in here for for killing a child molester 00:06:45 --> 00:06:47 or taking someone off the street that's out there touching these kids 00:06:47 --> 00:06:48 or doing some some 00:06:48 --> 00:06:51 some sick shit you know what I mean 00:06:51 --> 00:06:52 then you get a little respect on these arms 00:06:52 --> 00:06:55 just coming in here for for killing Charlie Kirk 00:06:55 --> 00:06:57 like you don't get no respect for that 00:06:57 --> 00:06:59 and all your little groupies come up behind you and just meal with you 00:06:59 --> 00:07:01 man because in the land of sheep and wolves 00:07:01 --> 00:07:03 you got a scope to hide behind 00:07:03 --> 00:07:05 here you got a gun to hide behind 00:07:05 --> 00:07:08 and you got your buddies if you ain't got no knife you're in trouble 00:07:10 --> 00:07:15 exactly and that's what people fail to realise is that at the end of the day 00:07:15 --> 00:07:18 this clout you think you're getting because you killed Charlie Kirk 00:07:18 --> 00:07:21 you don't got it I sit in here with murderers everyday 00:07:21 --> 00:07:23 there's people in here who kill people everyday 00:07:23 --> 00:07:25 all the robbers all the killers 00:07:25 --> 00:07:26 the rapists that's what I'm around 00:07:26 --> 00:07:29 so who are you to come in here and tell you who I am 00:07:29 --> 00:07:31 you're nobody you're who's gonna put the money in my 00:07:31 --> 00:07:34 by my locker next you're somebody who's gonna Pat my pocket 00:07:34 --> 00:07:37 you're the person who's gonna make sure I eat every night 00:07:40 --> 00:07:41 I mean let's be real 00:07:41 --> 00:07:43 when Kane Velasquez came to prison 00:07:43 --> 00:07:45 they didn't roll the red carpet out for him 00:07:45 --> 00:07:46 and he killed a child molester 00:07:46 --> 00:07:48 so they're not rolling out the red carpet for someone 00:07:48 --> 00:07:50 who actually stepped on someone 00:07:50 --> 00:07:53 and smushed this person who's a abomination in my opinion 00:07:53 --> 00:07:54 you know what I mean then 00:07:54 --> 00:07:56 then you're wasting my time 00:07:56 --> 00:07:59 and like I said it's in the land of sheeps and wolves man 00:07:59 --> 00:08:02 you can't put no fake clothing on here cause everything's exposed 00:08:02 --> 00:08:04 we are the same clothing well 00:08:04 --> 00:08:06 as y'all can see you know 00:08:06 --> 00:08:07 that's as real as it gets 00:08:07 --> 00:08:10 and you know some people might not like the way he speaks 00:08:10 --> 00:08:14 or they might love it but I know this man as a human being 00:08:15 --> 00:08:16 as a friend who 00:08:16 --> 00:08:17 when we had nothing to eat 00:08:17 --> 00:08:20 we split one ramen noodle soup 00:08:21 --> 00:08:24 you know and it's never been about anything we might be 00:08:24 --> 00:08:27 you ever have a brother or a friend that you guys grew up 00:08:27 --> 00:08:30 totally different past but it doesn't matter 00:08:30 --> 00:08:32 that's my brother to the end 00:08:32 --> 00:08:34 and he's a man a father 00:08:34 --> 00:08:35 and you know 00:08:35 --> 00:08:37 he's getting closer with god 00:08:37 --> 00:08:40 but you have to remember this is all he knows 00:08:41 --> 00:08:43 and it's not all talk you know 00:08:43 --> 00:08:44 cause I've been there with him 00:08:44 --> 00:08:46 you know we've been through some trenches 00:08:46 --> 00:08:52 and the things that we've gone through as children and as men 00:08:52 --> 00:08:55 is the reason why we have so much hate towards these child molesters 00:08:55 --> 00:08:56 and these fakes but d J 00:08:56 --> 00:08:58 tell him something good man 00:08:58 --> 00:09:00 and you know your interviews coming soon man 00:09:00 --> 00:09:01 I love you stay up 00:09:01 --> 00:09:03 you'll be home soon god willing us 00:09:04 --> 00:09:06 and then I like the way we're living and the way we're doing it 00:09:06 --> 00:09:08 but you know what like I said 00:09:08 --> 00:09:11 what are you gonna tell a man who's been here for 20 years 00:09:11 --> 00:09:13 bro 25 years you ain't been 00:09:13 --> 00:09:16 now we don't got a brother like you to call off 00:09:17 --> 00:09:20 you know what I mean we don't got a brother like you to bust that shit down 00:09:20 --> 00:09:21 you know 00:09:22 --> 00:09:23 we know what's going on man 00:09:23 --> 00:09:25 we know we came we know we like to live 00:09:25 --> 00:09:27 we know the slide that we're taking to better ourselves 00:09:28 --> 00:09:32 so when it comes to me not having a perspective in here man 00:09:32 --> 00:09:34 from the inside I'm still here 00:09:34 --> 00:09:36 but you know what I mean not for much longer 00:09:36 --> 00:09:40 it ain't much longer we'll be out there together again real soon man so 00:09:42 --> 00:09:44 they may not like that we dads childish 00:09:44 --> 00:09:48 but guess what I'm a father and I'm a girl dad 00:09:50 --> 00:09:52 the other little girls and I love them 00:09:53 --> 00:09:55 and I wouldn't I don't even know y'all shit 00:09:55 --> 00:09:58 but I wouldn't let nobody come in and touch them and do something to them 00:09:58 --> 00:10:01 and live comfortably cause that's bullshit
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Considering team USA only scored four team points between 57,70 and 125kg., their second place finish was quite impressive, especially having three wrestlers 21 or under competing.
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There's no denying the right wingers are more violent.
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Kellen won state 3x in Wisconsin big school division so far, and should win a 4th without many challenges. He won Cadets at 113 when he was in 8th grade, and has been an AA and runnerup in the Junior nationals. In HS folkstyle, he's split matches with Davis Parrow from Minnesota who is going to Nebraska. I don't think he's lost in Wisconsin. He had to go through a senior defending state champ and Fargo AA (Ben Bast) to win his first title. He is VERY good, and the upside of Wisconsin/AWA prep wrestlers in the NCAA lately makes him a prized recruit. In terms of AWA club guys, He is more of an offensive minded brawler like Keckeisen than a funky scrambler like O'Toole or slick like Mesenbrink. In other words, perfect fit for Big Ten. This was bound to happen with the OKST billionaire dude buying Jamison/Robideau (Minnesota), Swiderski (ISU), Routledge (Nebraska) from other teams plus Jax and the Raneys. We are in a bad spot now as a sport where billionaires are paying kids big bucks to ride the bench just so other teams can't get them. In 5 years, NCAA wrestling is just going to a be a triangular dual meet.
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And considering we only received four team points combined between 57, 70 and 125kg., that was a great finish for the U.S.
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You don’t see this behavior from parents teaching kids this in republican households. Prove me wrong
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Then there’s Gutfeld:
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Should federal workers be fired for criticizing charlie kirk?
Caveira replied to red viking's topic in Non Wrestling Topics
I thought Viking said they were commenting not celebrating. Weird. @Tripnsweep rumor is your a teacher. Should teachers get fired for this? -
What do you mean by "assigned?" Who does this assigning?
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So, is this guy queer or bi?
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Post-Worlds Way Too Early Olympic Lineup Predictions
boconnell replied to RandolphTJones's topic in International Wrestling
Thank you for that. Zahid looked stronger and more physical. That's wild. -
Should federal workers be fired for criticizing charlie kirk?
ionel replied to red viking's topic in Non Wrestling Topics