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Dr. Mphil would have an aortic aneurysm.

If they drop one, I doubt we get additional weights. It will be sacrificed to add another shitty bullcrap bogus sport. Competitive rapping anybody?

Why do you do this? Are you trying to confuse and consume the dolts of the community? I legitimately searched to see if OSU had accepted an offer to join the B1G AND decided to change their name in a somewhat all-timer troll move. Added something for a chuckle of my own below...

What do you mean two year cycles? It would remain at four year cycles...?

Trackwrestling -> Browse -> Seasons -> 2023-24 College Men -> NCAA -> Teams -> Ohio State -> Roster All it simply means is that when he weighed in for certifying he weighed between 141.1 and 149.0. He could have been 141.2lbs at the time and that could have been a month ago - or longer.

FIFY

It should be noted that they went a different route last year... everyone was basically on weight for ther certification.

At the collegiate level, having to make weight every match would also penalize the gent who made the topside semi-finals. It is often the case that they have much less rest between their semi-final and their consi-semifinal. That is another reason you see so many semi-slides.

I maintain that weighing in for every match is unfair, making it stupid and unrealistic - especially at the high school level.

Guy doesn't make a medal and he doesn't have to weigh in on second day. I am oddly okay with that.

First day would be 2nd match mat-side weigh-ins. Second day would be medal match mat-side weigh-ins. I could go for this. If they let themselves get 6-7lbs over for an earlier match then have to cut down for a matside weigh-in later, they are just hurting themselves and their peak performance capability.

I said they were well off!

So, this is what Track shows for their Certifying Weights... for 'EXPECTED WEIGHT' I used what Wrestlestat has them listed at, as Penn State won't likely update their until mid-January (phuktarts!)... Keep in mind that these gents could have certified a month or more ago and that some of these guys could keep in phenomenal shape, whereas some could let their weight get out of control. A few notes... - A 174.1-184.0lb Stalrocci is lower than I expected. - They have the grades very inaccurate in some instances (looking at the Lee brothers, Track!) - Kurt McHenry probably has a massive beer belly - I thought Kasak was Greyshirtting... appears not... he could be an option and let both Mesenbrink and Haines to Redshirt - Chochran already being under 197lbs actually surprised me. WRESTLER - GRADE, CERT WEIGHT, ACTUAL WEIGHT RANGE, EXPECTED WEIGHT Branden Wentzel - FR, 133, 125.1-133.0, 125 Braeden Davis - FR, 133, 125.1-133.0, 133 Kurt McHenry - SR, 133, 125.1-133.0, 125 Marco Vespa - SR, 133, 125.1-133.0, 125 Gary Steen - JR, 133, 125.1-133.0, 125 Robert Howard - SR, 133, 125.1-133.0, 125 Sean Wang - JR, 141, 133.1-141.0, 141 Aaron Nagao - RS SO, 141, 133.1-141.0, 133 Karl Shindledecker - SO, 141, 133.1-141.0, 125 Baylor Shunk - RS FR, 141, 133.1-141.0, 133 Kyison Garcia - FR, 141, 133.1-141.0, 133 David Evans - SR, 149, 141.1-149.0, 141 Timothy Levine - JR, 149, 141.1-149.0, 141 Beau Bartlett - SR, 149, 141.1-149.0, 141 Shayne Van Ness - JR, 157, 149.1-157.0, 149 Connor Pierce - SO, 157, 149.1-157.0, 149 Tyler Kasak - FR, 157, 149.1-157.0, 157 Imran Heard, SR, 165, 157.1-165.0, 149 Mitchell Mesenbrink - RS FR, 165, 157.1-165.0, 157 Levi Haines - SO, 165, 157.1-165.0, 157 Matt Lee - SR, 174, 165.1-174.0, 165 Erik Gibson - FR, 174, 165.1-174.0, 165 Joe Lee - RS FR, 174, 165.1-174.0, 165 Terrell Barraclough - RS FR, 174, 165.1-174.0, 157 Alex Facundo - JR, 174, 165.1-174.0, 165 Josh Barr - FR, 184, 174.1-184.0, 174 Aurelius Dunbar - SR, 184, 174.1-184.0, 157 Brian Borden - JR, 184, 174.1-184.0, 165 Carter Starocci - RS FR, 184, 174.1-184.0, 174 Jack Kelly - JR, 197, 184.0-197.0, 174 Donovon Ball - RS FR, 197, 184.0-197.0, 184 Lucas Cochran - JR, 197, 184.0-197.0, 197 Bernie Truax - RS SR, 197, 184.0-197.0, 184 Aaron Brooks - RS FR, 285, 197.1-285.0, 197 AJ Fricchione - FR, 285, 197.1-285.0, 285 Greg Kerkvliet - RS FR, 285, 197.1-285.0, 285

This kind of devolved from matside weigh-in for each match to one weigh-in for the entire tournament, though? Does this include two-day tournies?

ALL this said... I would take Mesenbrink as well. There are a few signs pointing to not only him wrestling, but wrestling 157lbs if he does. - Bartlett posted a video (picture maybe?) of them working out with the caption "Just two 160lbers" - Ben has been trying to insert him in to the 157lb discussion on FRL as much as possible So, to me... smart money is on him wrestling 157 if he wrestles this season. Perhaps they start the season with both him and Haines under redshirt and Bearclaw with the nod? The difference being is that MM would have to not be enrolled to Oly-shirt... so there is that.

Are you blind? What he stated was accurate. Nobody clamped on to the 'tech' portion. Folks clamped on to and reacted to the World Champ portion.

Apparently for several people it was quite preposterous and unclear. I understand your case. It is still wrong. You can't have your apples, choose the pie, then when everyone cuts up their apples of choice go and say "OH BTW ONLY RED DELICIOUS CAN BE USED FOR THIS APPLE PIE RECIPE." You have to include that sort of information, lest you be shat on - which happened... you were shat on.

Per their logix, he is.

The solution to the gap is to adopt weight classes closer to the international MFS and MGR styles. In high school the current weight classes at the top are... - 190lbs (86.2 KG) - 215lbs (97.5 KG) - 285lbs (129.2 KG) Those look pretty close, huh? Current NCAA weight classes... - 184lbs (83.5 KG) - 197lbs (89.4 KG) - 285lbs (129.2 KG) Current MFS weights... - 92 KG (202.8lbs) - 97 KG (213.8lbs) - 125 KG (275.6lbs) Current MGR weights... - 87 KG (191.2lbs) - 97 KG (213.8lbs) - 130 KG (286.6lbs) One of these is not like the others and it is collegiate wrestling.

You said World Champion not U20 World Champion. There is a clear and distinct difference there. You don't think there is?

Yeah. That was a stupid take by Le Duke. Hardcore bias there.

Oh what?

I can be bought with the one-off per tournament if it is done before the 2nd match (in double eliminations). Taking away a perceived and earned advantage is a no-go for me. You can't penalize kids for doing better nor can you expect them to be able to handle it better because they performed better previously. It isn't how it should work.

I want to touch base on this more. Higher seeds earn byes by performing better at tournaments beforehand. They earn it, and now you want to make it a disadvantage for them?

So the guy who earned the higher seed to get the bye shouldn't get the benefit of a bye now? Won't happen. These two sports are grappling sports. I see the similarity there. From there you get pretty far apart, though. PED use is rampant to a very deep level in BJJ/ADCC tournaments. Especially the higher up and more serious you go. You're going to have to come up with a better example than one that compares a clean sport to an unclean one, because those guys use all sorts of shit to get on weight beforehand.