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I think an in-shape PK can potentially score more at 174 because of the lack of depth there compared to 165 right now. Right now he needs to get his cardio under him or go on the Spencer Lee diet of trying to ensure first period Techs. Right now his cardio is a big problem and I am not willing to give him any points at 174. Once he gets the cardio under his belt we can entertain his options at 174. He is small, or at least he looked small against Gaitan... which is surprising because PK dwarfed Facundo when they met at WNO, 170lbs (PK coming down from 182lbs and Facundo coming up from 160lbs). I don't think strength will be a problem for him, but I don't know that he is even at ~175lbs right now. He looks closer to 165lbs than 174lbs. At 174 right now this is what I have for Tiers: - Tier 1 - Stalrocci, Penn State - Tier 2 - EMPTY - Tier 3 - Lewis, Virginia Tech Griffith, Michigan - Tier 4 - Kharchla, the Ohio State Ruth, Illinois Mocco, Mizzou Wittlake, Oregon State - Tier 5 - Gaitan, Iowa State Washington, Indiana Kemp, Cal Poly DeVos, South Dakota State Conigliaro, Harvard O'Malley, Drexel Incontera, Penn Brennan, Arkansas-Little Rock Right now I put PK firmly in 'Tier 5' but if he gets a gas tank under him he could get up to a 'Tier 4' sort of level. That puts his peak potential at around 4th place, but he could lose to anyone in Tier 4 and Tier 5 still - keeping in mind in my 'tier' systems you can beat a guy up or down a tier from you and not have it be a big surprise. I see what you are saying about Feldkamp, however I don't think he was horsing Gabe around... I think he was using length/leverage - which Feldkamp does to everyone and then uses that leverage to walk away via a Pinfell victory. Gabe was able to counter that with superior hips as well as being stronger (him circling each time was a sign that strength was not a problem). I am not an Iowa fan... you all know this. I am a Michigander (UofM, MSU, CMU, Michigan kids) then B1G then MAC. You guys know this. That said, if he goes 184, I think his peak potential at 184 is the same as 174. He might now be beating Keckeisen or Sta(l)rocci, but he is right in there to beat anyone else at either of those weights. Kennedy isn't doing anything at 184. He was small and without a tank against 174lb Gaitan. Imagine what those matches look like last night had they done Kennedy at 184 and Arnold at 174. Commical, probably, and Feldkamp likely decks Kennedy - giving Iowa State the victory. At the end of the day you aren't convincing me that Arnold, who beat Wittlake (Wittlake lost to Munoz 4-3 last year at 184, btw) and Feldkamp (7th at 184 last year) wouldn't be able to do something at 184, were he given the chance. EDIT: As a disclaimer, my Tiers might be missing a gent or two in Tier 4/5. I am okay with that. I wasn't trying to list 77 gents out in Tier order and I don't like going past Tier 5.

Until the 2nd semester starts he must be attached, I thought.

No connection. A fan of his style of wrestling, even if he is undersized at 184.

I said in the OP. Parker Keckeisen should be there.

If you are Iowa, with Kennedy back and presumably donning the 1-7-4 for them for this season, what do you do at 184 with Swafford and Arnold? This is what I would do: Wrestle him attached at 184 at the Soldier Salute. Parker Keckeisen should be there. Also, you enter Swafford and maybe even Riggins? That becomes his 4th weigh-in. You then wrestle him unattached in an open or three until the Penn State dual. Meanwhile Swafford is still manning the spot. Hell, maybe Swafford ends up being the guy. I would be super cool with that and am actually disappointed we didn't get to see him tonight. That said, if he can beat either Keckeisen and/or Truax I think you burn it. He would probably get three at the Soldier Salute, Penn State, Wisconsin, and Oklahoma State to put him at 13 matches prior yo B1Gs at the very least. He can probably get anywhete from ?6-12?matches while wrestling unattached at a few different opens (Edinboro, Kauffman, Don Parker, Last Chance to name a few possible). Thoughts?

Rojas at 197 for Iowa State anyone?

That isn't an upset for some folks, btw. I need to see Arnold against Stalrocci.

One more stalling for Arnold and it is tied here.

Does Iowa put Swafford out against Broderson?

Tom looking like he is going to cry...

PK is gassed.

Going in to this, if I know PK is going I am favoring him, but not to the point where I am sayimg that Gaitan needs to avoid bonus. I would thinknit closer than that. PK looks great here, though.

For a guy who wrestled 182 in high school PK looks small.

Brain called it. PK against Gaitan.

I don't understand how Caliendo got called for stalling there at all. Edit: Referring his first two of the match.

https://www.trackwrestling.com/tw/seasons/LoadBalance.jsp?seasonId=170449138&pageName=DualDashboard.jsp&dualId=7594666132

Salazar beat him like 12-0 last year right?

FYI - ESPN app is showing this on the schedule for both EPSN+ and ESPN...

Palmer not being ranked because he last wrestled unattached is fine by me. He will be when he is officially attached.

Also rape. Focus raped a woman.

Can confirm. We talk(ed).

You understand it was three points for a five second count, correct? It was changed to four points for a four second count. You are looking at it in a singular dimension, points, when the scoring involves two dimensions in points and time. Meaning before with a four swipe you would get two points, now it is four. You can't maths and it is annoying that you are stupid. I legitimately laid the math out for you, so it isn't ignorance. Happy Thanksgiving.

Oooh. Wanker. Another Brit word. I hope nobody gets upset with you. You are accurate, though...

If they were to take away the Tech they would need to implement some sort of stalling protocol so the top guy doesn't just hold someone or use the same cheap tilt 46 times in a match. Too complicated. I agree with OP: 10 & 15 make a lot of sense.