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tOhSt OkSt OrStW I got nothing for this. You know I'm your biggest fan. Actually I am kind of disappointed in myself that I didn't have a better, snarky response for you.

There were some awesome matchups at the Bill Farrell across all three styles, but those aren't Folkstyle/collegiate results.

Please. We need to show solidarity against our common foe, Dr. @MPhillipsand have no reason to egg him on with other fantastical. tOSU - Ohio State OSU - Oklahoma State OSUW - Oregon State

I am curious as to the Seth Gross situation. The guy seems to be as cool and good as they come with a focus on his god and family. Yet he sticks around that Turdbiscuit (capital T).

Looking further it looks like Fry lost to Lehigh's Luke Stanich via 11-4 Decision at the Princeton Open. Losing might not be so bad at the end of the day, but a seven point margin doesn't look good. Brendon Garcia doesn't appear to be on a roster this year.

Gaitan is much like tOSU's Geog. They have both grown in to the weight. Last year they were frosh-babies. We will see on everything else. I don't like Echemendia. I think beating the shit out of your SO is a no-go and puts a black mark on the coaching staff for being willing to allow that sort of scum in the room. The same can be said for Northern Colorado with that douche-bag Baylor Fernandez.

Hamiti is not their biggest name, Amos is. Amos has already been on a senior level world team. How close has Hamiti gotten to that? Has he even wrestled at a senior level tournament?

Previous AA that has since regressed, based on actual results. Regressed may not be the proper word. He peaked at the right tournament and hasn't peaked as high since. I disagree on everything else you said, as well. We will never know, though. Typically we have been given examples of weight classes existing for a reason and have seen the larger guys win. Especially down here at 125/133.

Honestly would rather see the 5th placers. Not because I don't think these guys are necessarily competitive with the D2/D3 gents, but because I think that using the 5th placers would create a bigger buzz around the meet. Hell, I would love for D2, D3, NJCAA, and NAIA all to have a chance at making it. Remove the 33rd qualifer and allow the NC from each of them to go. Seed them 1-4 and thave them at 33, 34, 35, and 36. Imagine last year: 1 - (33) Joziah Fry, D2, Johnson & Wales, SO, 43W - 0L 2 - (34) Brendon Garcia, D3, Adams State, SO, 22W - 3L (beat Lander's James Joplin 8-4 where Orum lost to him 3-1) 3 - (35) Brandon Orum, NAIA, NAIA, Life, SR, 14W - 3L (see above) 4 - (36) Jett Strickenberger, NJCAA, NW Kansas Tech, SO, 32W - 0L I am kind of giving the benefit of the doubt to NAIA, D3, and D2 over NJCAA there with Jett, but for argument's sake lets leave it. Here are your preliminary bouts: Fry VS Tanner Jordan, SDSU - winner faces Spencer Lee, Iowa Garcia VS Witcraft, OSU - winner faces Patrick Glory, Princeton Orum VS Antonio Lorenzo, Cal Poly - winner faces Liam Cronin Strickenberger VS Nico Provo, Stanford - winner faces Matt Ramos Those are fun matches, I think. Although I admittedly do not know anything about Strickenberger. Well, I guess that isn't true. He is now at West Virginia and is their starter: https://www.wrestlestat.com/wrestler/74382/strickenberger-jett/profile

Insofar as that goes, I don't think Askren has much leg to stand on. Wasn't Bono just following the rules and stipulations that the B1G put forth? Askren is and was a known believer in it being a Plandemic.

Jordan Williams looked real good. He definitely had a lot of size on Young.

Warner does own this thread. You need to mind your tongue when speaking about the boss. Why do you think he hadn't been mentioned yet?

But wait!! He is our best option to qualify/medal at 65 KG!! Remember when he legitimately just came out and continuously shoved Metcalf because he knew he couldn't wrestle an actual match against him?? That shit gets called today.

There are those who did see it coming.

I agree. I wasn't saying he didn't gas. I was saying at the very least he coasted. Most people coast when they are up big (he wasn't) and/or they gas. We don't want a Lee that coasts. Ever.

If you want to call what the definition of what deep 'should' be where do we cross the invisible line? Top 8? Top 16? Top 33? Top 100? I am cutting the line at Top 8. In that I believe were the Top 8 of 133 face off against the Top 8 from 125 at 133lbs right now in some sort of dual setting, I am taking the Top 8 right now at 133lbs. Using Wrestlestat for argument's sake: 1 - Ramos, Purdue VS Arujau, Cornell 2 - Comacho, NC State VS Fix, Oklahoma State 3 - Noto, Lock Haven VS Crookham, Lehigh 4 - Barnett, Wisconsin VS Nagao, Penn State 5 - Figueroa, Arizona State VS Orine, NC State 6 - McKee, Minnesota VS Latona, Virginia Tech 7 - Peterson, Rutgers VS Colaiocco, Pennsylvania 8 - Palmer, Chattanooga VS Teske, Iowa #5 might be a match. Orine kind of has a style that might be rather stiff for a smaller Figs. #8 is a match. Other than that I don't think there are even any toss-ups. To take it further, let's use #10, 15, 20, 25, and 30. 10 - Ayala, Iowa VS Wisenhunt, Oregon State 15 - Poulin, Northern Colorado VS Zaccone, Campbell 20 - Volk, Wyoming VS Bailey, Little Rock 25 - Moore, North Carolina VS Seltzer, Missouri 30 - Kaylor, Oregon State VS Rooks, Indiana I think when you get to these weights and you start seeing that weight classes matter for a reason and that 133, while it doesn't have the names, does have the depth. The only one I am calling a toss-up would be Ayala and Wisenhunt. On the fence a bit, though. Ayala has felt 133lbs, so I don't think the weight would be too much of a concern.

I think he definitely coasted.

I am happily married, my man. Maybe in another life?

Nico has done something amazing thus far, by the way. He has been consistently a Top 3-5 guy at 61 KG while also wrestling part time. To put some things in to perspective, he has split with Gross since the 2022 US Open. What I mean by that is that this match gives us a great measuring stick for where Lee is and it it right there. He isn't head and shoulders above the field, though. He needs more real-time reps.

Eh... I have a story to tell you about that and it might make it so you can use those dry erase boards again. Don't assume it has to be dry. Try using a dry erase marker to write over the sharpie. If that doesn't work then ethanol or acetone should work. You're welcome.

You need to hold your tongue, Ser! I will fong you! I will fong you until your insides are out, your outsides are in, your entrails will become your extrails. Pain! Lots of pain!

HFS you're an idiot. While the words you are using are individually correct you need to quit trying to make shit up using semantic articulation. I could do the same. I could say your username means 'Fork in my...' never mind. I am not going to allow myself to trip over nothing.. even though I really want to.

Well AWA has what.... 95%+ of the top-end talent there? Hopke is the basically the lone exception, right... and he went to Minny. With the bridge being burnt between Benji and Bono I don't expect any top-end Wiscy talent to go to Wiscy. Actually that burnt bridge may be damning in many other states too. More people (kids) know who Askren is than Bono (the coach - duh!). Askren has been vocal about how much of a dishonest turdbiscuit Bono is.

Guys, this Iowa State team is vastly underrated right now due to weight acclimation and new faces in the lineup. Guys like the Frost brothers, Echemendia, Chittum, Gaittan are all contenders for mid-AA honors and right now they are ranked 18th, 27th, 19th, and 22nd. Echemendia might be the guy at 141 instead of one of the Frost brothers, but I think you get the point. Wiscy, on the other hand? This is rebuild year for them. They don't have any incoming transfers to blow our socks off (hrmm.... perhaps that fiacso with Burwikk showed everyone what Bono's actual character is like huh?) and their biggest name is on Oly-shirt. I think they will be fine. They have a lot of youth in their lineup that needs experience. It was just a piss-poor matchup for them against an ISU squad that most people don't understand just how good they are.

On the flip side of all that... if Fix or Arujau announce they are heading down to 125lbs tomorrow, they are immediately the favorite. 133 is much deeper than 125 and it isn't even close. Edit: Deeper where it matters... which is peak potential AA.