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They'd pull up a crap, I mean a carp.

Maybe the Minnow can salvage the Iowa/Brands - Bo Bassett fracture?

So Nicolls is talking like he runs the program at the same time Brands is telling Bassett's mom to not tell him how to run the program? Did I follow along correctly today?

Penn State only takes top wrestlers out of Utah.

I would bet Oklahoma State to join Jax. Iowa continues to struggle to keep pace.

It reminds of the old entry into Wide World of Sports. "The thrill of victory and the agony of defeat".

Another iconic photograph. A known top notch photographer on PSU got this image of high schooler PJ Duke in mid air after pinning Yianni D at Final X. Well done.

FIFY

They financed an iconic wrestling image.

Boldness is in the eye of the beholder, or is that the bebolder?

Josh Barr 197 Champ

Everyone else is competing YET their fanbases type away and make it appear as if they STILL need Cael's stamp of approval. Unbelievable. The event hasn't even happened, PSU isn't even in it, and I feel like Penn State has already won it.

They underperformed all the way to a new team scoring record for the second year in a row.

I am setting the over under at a 20 percent increase in "potentially dangerous" in PA youth wrestling. I jest. Kinda.

Duke has beaten him at least twice. His wins over a pair of ncaa champs today vaults him to #1 in that p4p argument on the other board. Just imo.

If Minnow actually knew anything he'd be posting it like he broke a story.

This. Plus, when was his last loss to a non top 3 American? Got to be a while.

But of course, it's Flo.

The answer might be PJ Duke and that we just don't understand just how good he is right now.

I said it was funny that people get worked up that I call it by the sponsor's name, not that it was my intent to get them worked up. They do a fine job of that all on their own when they see fit to disagree. My take is that Sanderson understands or at least believes that there is a group of folks who would really like to change the way this sport settles national championships. My take is that he believes these types of events just promote those ideas and he doesn't want to participate in that promotion. The N in NCAA stands for National. Anyone else can put that word in their event, but it isn't really the same thing, hence my reference to the commercial sponsor of the event.

I think you actually have it right in the second paragraph. I saw a video clip somewhere of Cael saying something to the effect of this being a re hash of long held arguments that he doesn't think make sense. Not those exact words of course, but that sort of meaning. I don't think they will have any issue filling comp dates.

Yes. "Sponsored by Paycom" "Paycom Duals" Pretty much the same thing. Btw, I dont hate the event. Its a re hash of the old event. No big deal. It is funny that people get worked up because I call it by the sponsor's name.

By whom?

My point is that everyone calls this the "national" duals. That words means something that does not apply here.