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I was responding to people on here, not to complaints by actual stakeholders with actual knowledge. The closest we've gotten to a stakeholder making a public complaint is Dresser's accusation of "hooey". We can go on for days with "ifs", but we don't have many facts. What we do know is that Big 12 officials fully investigated the allegations and were equiped with the facts of the matter. They conferred with the NCAA and then made an impartial ruling.

Team scores? I like the variety in the picks. I can't see Little placing that high and I think you're overly hopeful for a general PSU underperformance (me too). Other than, the picks look good

Carter had higher coaches rank; Parker had higher RPI

Dresser was not there. Who knows if the "5 coaches" were there in the room or not. Harrison's tweets were in the morning of day one. His more recent statement was on the broadcast the second day of the tournament and he said that coaches were giving him their opinions. You know who was there? Big 12 officials. They additionally reviewed security footage. They also conferred with the NCAA to make a ruling. We don't have many facts from this, but we do know that the proper officials had all the facts and they made an impartial ruling.

Pyles: "We might've done a bad thing. We didn't mean to do a bad thing, but we might've done a bad thing."

They weighted in on time. Not extra time. Their opponents had the exact same time to recover. Not extra time. If anything it was a disadvantage, because their second-round opponent had more time to recover from their first round match.

Do you have an opinion on the NCAA not giving the bid to the Pac 12 kid who will retroactively be the Pac 12 champ at 174?

He weighed in on time and made weight.

According to the Big 12 it was a "miscommunication over timing". There was no official disqualification. Everything Dresser is saying is hearsay. He wasn't there and doesn't cite where his information is coming from. Rock Harrison in the broadcast even says that when he arrived, he had a lot of coaches in his ear giving their opinions and what should/shouldn't happen. Some pissed off coaches complaining isn't the end-all. The Big 12 investigated the situation, conferred with the NCAA and then made a decision.

Basch didn't "report" anything. He's not a journalist. Neither are the FRL guys. Neither is Mineo. Basch repeated what he saw from the Air Force Twitter account, which was inaccurate . He says this clearly on his show.

You can accuse the conference of lying if you want, but there is no evidence to support that. No one has said the conference declared them disqualified and then changed their minds. The most outspoken person on this issue, Kevin Dresser, explicitly said the Big 12 had NOT told them anything. Until I hear or see better evidence, I will believe the people at ESPN who asked the Big 12 directly for answers, then reported it to their audience and cited their source.

My first thought was that the NCAA should have caught this way sooner. If they had, LR would have sent a different wrestler to conferences and had a chance to qualify and send a 174 to NCAAs. But the other side is that it was incumbent on LR to clear it with the NCAA, so it's their fault as well. Regardless, it's a crappy situation

If they do that, they better let Little Rock send an alternate.

Do you take the same stance when a cop gives you a ticket for failure to use your turn signal on a right-hand turn at a four-way stop? Not all rules are equally as important. There's also the spirit and intent of the law vs a legalistic reading of the law. The "rules is rules" crowd are a bunch of smooth-brained babies

That isn't a fact. The Big 12 actually spoke to that part of it to the ESPN broadcast team. They said the athletes in question were never disqualified. They delayed their matches while they investigated it and made an official ruling.

3rd, 4th, and 5th seeds most frequently place 3rd!

https://www.ncaa.com/news/wrestling/article/2025-03-11/ncaa-announces-large-selections-2025-division-i-wrestling-championships Here they are

https://x.com/CPyles8/status/1899494193145208916/ Also this

he made Carter look downright unimpressive lol. Give Carter a step stool or something c'mon!

Watch it again from the opposite angle in the replay. They're facing each other completely neutral, Hendrickson steps in and changes levels while swinging his arm around, his forearm hits Schultz's headgear and his arm goes limp and he drops down in pain. The commentary guys also noted you could hear him yelp in pain immediately. Schultz was nowhere near in position to score before that happened

Schultz looked like he was pushing 300 lbs. Does he cut to make HWT?

The crew that did the first three sessions of Big 12s was great imo. Hardell Moore and I forget the other guy

yup! I checked and it's ESPNU only. I got signed up for a Hulu+Live TV free trial just in time lol

3rds and 5ths are finished. Only 10 matches remain. ESPNU has the finals but it might be on ESPN+ as well

Teague Travis who had been out with injury since November and was previously at 157, just punched his ticket to Philadelphia at 149 by making it to the 3/4 match. Impressive tournament he's having