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Coby is awesome. Hope he joins his brother in college!

The context of the discussion is about an award for most dominant season. I asked you two questions and you answered neither. Why would a dominant wrestler choose not get 6 points if he is capable of doing so? If Wrestler A has a 100% pin rate for a full season, and Wrestler B has a 100% tech rate for a full season, is Wrestler A less dominant than Wrestler B?

Anecdotal but that happened to Wyatt some this year.

A few more fun facts: Zero takedown matches: Carter 1 (against a true freshman), Wyatt 0 Single takedown matches: Carter 2, Wyatt 1 (against Gable) Overtime matches: Carter 2, Wyatt 0

We're not talking about one-offs. We're talking about a season of dominance. If one guy gets 100% pins for the season and another guy gets 100% techs for the season, you're telling me the pinner was less dominant?

Lol you think Trumble only weighed 205 this year?

Would be cool to see Avg Time on Mat as well

No, you made a separate argument saying you can imagine a circumstance where a pin comes in a non-dominant fashion. You did not contend with my argument for why a dominating wrestler would choose to get 5 points if he is capable of getting 6 points.

A higher frequency of pins in HWT doesn't necessarily prove that HWTs are easier to pin. It's just as likely that HWTs are simply better at pinning. So Wyatt also contended in a class where it was more likely that he could get caught in a pin. What I think is the likely factor is that there are bigger weight discrepancies in HWT. Wyatt is was a midsize HWT this year weighing in the 250s. I'm told he was smaller when he was in the Air Force because of weight restrictions at the Academy, however, he was still a 3x NCAA pins leader when he was at AF.

Contend with my argument then. If pins are worth more and you're the most dominant wrestler, why would you choose not to get a pin? You wouldn't. If you are dominant enough that you can get pins consistently, you will get pins consistently.

And every one of his opponents knew that was his intention. Like smash mouth football, you know what the play is, you just have to try to stop it

Pins are worth more. So if you're dominant enough that you can get a pin, you will do it because it's incentivized. As for Wyatt, he got 13 pins and 8 techs. Please show me which of his pins were not dominant.

those fans would jump to the "techs are more dominant than pins" ship

Keep my wife's name out your ******* mouth

Carter said recently he would go 86

think 285 is a bigger need than 184?

Here's Bo a few days ago. Which is it Bo? Should the award go the most dominant wrestler as intended, or should it go to who Bo thinks is "best"?

A good argument can be made that Gable Steveson is the BEST wrestler in the NCAA. Should he have been a finalist, Bo? Or is the award, named for Dan Hodge, about something else?

Yeah, can you believe Pat Smith never won a Hodge!? In the words of Bo Nickal, "I'm going to throw a fit!"

How do you think he does this year? What do you think is his optimal weight?

He was the 145th National Champion wrestler for the Cowboys. Hard to rank them!

It just got a little more interesting. Facundo is a Cowboy!

I think Tagen can make the weight, I'm just not so sure he should. I previously thought Vega could go 133, but he is looking a little thicker as of late, which is not a bad thing

I assume WIN also does not include the All Star Classic? That's interesting about including forfeits. I know Paddy clearly ducked MM, but I don't know what the circumstances were for the Mizzou and Binghamton forfeits.