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Well they won by 15.5 in 2021 with an overall underperformance (including a #1 seed DNP’ing) with essentially the same team they had in 2020, and an overperformance from PSU whose team was pretty comparable to what they had in 2020. I’d never be shocked by PSU winning, but the chances were pretty slim and I think it’s fair to say Iowa was in all likelihood robbed. This is a weird post from you though because I’m pretty sure I was one of the few giving PSU a chance in 2021 and IIRC you said there was no way. After seeing what happened in 2021 you were probably closer to correct back then. Not impossible, but it would’ve taken a massive implosion for Iowa to lose in 2020 (and another overperformance from PSU, but that would’ve been more likely).

Looks like he was at UVa, not VT. Could he not beat Patrick McCormick?

Joe went from being a national qualifier to losing to backups. Looks like he’s regressed.

You said he “literally ran away” from your son…that’s not negative? You must have a weird definition of “negative,” like when you were talking negatively about Lee’s world medal but claimed you weren’t…

I haven’t seen anyone really bring this up in 2 years, except maybe Hawkeye report, but yes, Iowa was going to win in 2020. Iowa differences in 2020 vs 2021: Swap Lugo for Eierman (2nd), Murin at 141 in 2020 compared to 149 in 2021 (R12). Pretty much a wash. PSU differences in 2020 vs 2021: Lost Cenzo, Hall, Rasheed, Verk Gained Starocci (1st), Kerk (7th), Beard (7th), Berge (R16), Howard (R16) Extremely slim chance that PSU would’ve been +16 points with those changes, and that’s with them having 4 champs in 2021 compared to 1 for Iowa. And yes, this reads like a Jimmy C thread. A legitimate question mixed in with some blatant trolling, like failing to mention that Spencer Lee didn’t wrestle at 2022 NCAA’s and Eierman was a shell of himself, or that Cassar only wrestled 3 matches in 2020. It’s not like we’re predicting a whole season in 2020 where more injuries could come into play, the only thing that needed to be wrestled was the tournament.

Messenbrink did didn’t he?

But isn’t the time he “jumped levels” also including his senior year of high school? Although I guess he was training a lot at NLWC right?

Haven’t plenty of guys had success at the Olympics immediately following an NCAA season? As long as he’s not wrestling through injuries folkstyle is still good training for freestyle. Plus I’m sure he’ll be wrestling plenty of freestyle at RTC practices anyway.

Cassar is probably the best example of Cael helping to develop a not so heralded recruit. Took longer than 2 years though. Haines seems to be more of just being under-ranked, which of course is another skill Cael has. IIRC Starocci is another example of that.

Cael getting credit for developing high school kids now, wow he really is a magician

Yeah but he did it “on principle”

Good. Now teach the rest of them!

Maybe you should get into reffing since you’ve claimed to be such an expert?

Lol

Must’ve been before Gilman went to NLWC though

Agree, well except for your definition of "lower half" :-). I'd say really only the 7 & 8 spots are really up for grabs, and I'm not including Bastida among the top 6. Schultz isn't planning to ORS is he?

IIRC, wasn't it not required to be at the actual weight?

Is an uncle actually a problem too? I thought that was just a parody twitter account

It’s the American refs’ fault!

Thanks, I was, just saying I guess that’s where a lot of the news is these days. Thought it was mostly just for girls’ bikini pics (which is probably another reason I should be on there)

Because he does more than just “grab legs” - I would agree because of that I’m skeptical Steveson would

Yeah I’m a bit surprised if they all leave, thought the Obe hire was best case scenario. Guess it may be along the lines of Kolat leaving Campbell and hiring Sentes. Kept the continuity but still going to have guys that were more loyal to the HC that likely recruited them.

Guess I need to get on the gram

I think Nickal would rule Greco

What happened with Janzer?