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I’d give Ferrari a small chance of winning, but you asked who the favorite was, and that’s Brooks next topic.

Also the first 2 guys you listed are currently coaching, just not in college. Of course they have other revenue sources as well.

Agreed, that’s why Cael doesn’t really have his own tree yet. But I was talking about Bobby Douglas.

I thought FRL summarized it well. They took 1 good conference and turned it into 2 bad ones…

Brooks next topic

I mean guys like Gable and Smith didn’t/don’t lose much in general… Pat Pop can beat Smith in a couple weeks however… Are there even many active “trees”? Meaning the guy they wrestled/coached under is still active? I’d guess Gable has the most branches. Cael basically killed the tree he grew from :-). And it seems like a lot of other current coaches took over after their tree retired. We will have the Tom Borelli quad in a few weeks though with CMU against Campbell, American and Bakersfield.

Because I was bored and couldn’t fall back asleep when I originally made this post, I clicked on the profiles of the comments in question. I’m no forensic IT dude, but while there may have been a bit of trolling involved, they all made semi-regular posts about random topics unrelated to racism that interested them, so I did not get the impression that any were “bad actors,” but who knows. And like I said earlier, I totally get that X/Twitter is a cesspool. But that particular post seemed worse than usual at least in regards to wrestling conversation.

Probably. That’s actually where Rokfin seems to be increasing their presence as well. So could be an interesting battle between the Flo bros

Interesting that he also said he thought 99% of D1 wrestlers were NOT juicing

Looks like Gomez could have some competition at 65kg for Mexico from Aaron Pico https://mmajunkie.usatoday.com/2023/12/bellator-pfl-news-aaron-pico-wants-to-know-next-fight-patricio-freire-mexico-olympic-team-wrestling?utm_source=MMAalley&utm_medium=My New Route&utm_campaign=dlvr.it.spon

I don’t recall the specifics of all of Nickal’s interviews, but IIRC he doesn’t talk about Jesus nearly as much as guys like Brooks or Marinelli.

Meh, this will be an interesting debate since it’s possible O’Toole would have redshirted

lol, it’s not destructive for guys to take a picture with other guys that look like them of which there is not a huge number in wrestling. Your white privilege is showing

It was racist and stupid for people to take a picture together?

One other tangent on the whole “growing the sport” thing is that while adding another subscription service isn’t ideal for wrestling fans, it’s also potentially exposing wrestling to fans of the UFC that already subscribe to Fight Pass.

Does Mizzou have any other duals on there? Their schedule only indicates the duals on Flo, but there are several away duals against good teams that don’t list the streaming info (such as Stanford 1/10, WVU 1/26, Cornell 1/28, and Iowa State 2/25).

Yea it might depend how the rankers consider the All-Start match. I don't know if anyone "weighs it lower," I think they either count it as a regular match (Flo), or that it didn't happen at all (Intermat). If it didn't happen at all then it's Noto for sure. If it happened I could still see it as Noto, but I don't think it's "easy" and Surtin has an argument IMO.

I wonder if UFC suggested Mizzou go with the 2-piece uniforms here?

FWIW, UFC did put out clips of like every match. Here are a few:

Well, here’s another post by the person that said Bailey is a thug (which a reminder, I was not even originally counting as one of the 4 racist comments): I know as someone said earlier, x/twitter is a cesspool, but I do feel like at least in wrestling conversations the number of overtly racist comments under that post did still seem out of the ordinary. Although getting off topic but speaking of x/twitter being a cesspool, I have also noticed a steady increase in porn accounts replying to wrestling posts which is annoying…

Do we know if Gable is coming back? I think it’s between him and Gomez for the title of most retirements right?

I’m hoping for that next year if Starocci comes back

When everyone else is taking losses, it kinda is. 3 of his 4 losses at NCAA’s are to guys that graduated. Prior to this season, his only losses to guys in the current field were to Barnett and Surtin. In 2022 he had wins over Ayala and Caleb Smith, as well as Latona. Speaking of Surtin, IMO he should be #1 now, and he would fit your same definition of “a guy that’s been around awhile and has never AA’d.” It’s gotta be either him or Noto, but Noto lost to Ramos at the All-Star and Surtin did pin Noto in their only meeting at 2022 NCAA’s.