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Badmouthing @Jason Bryant is not cool. I’m sure the NWMA pays very well…

See my above post. Can you share a link to Sowell’s research specific to driving while black?

Getting paid by the word it seems? I don’t see it in the links shared, can you clarify which photo shows a “wrestler grabbing another boy wrestler's crotch”?

You asked about driving records. I said much of the study data would not be found on driving records

Can you share a link to Sowell’s research on driving while black and the differences between immigrants and those who were/weren’t descendants of slaves? All I could find was this, which ironically is mostly a bunch of anecdotes and does not mention anything about immigrants. https://www.deseret.com/2007/11/1/20050686/thomas-sowell-little-evidence-to-support-the-dangers-of-driving-while-black Looks like you may be confused with his research around economic success

The data is only based on “stops,” so not necessarily things that would go on your driving record. You might know that if you actually read it and weren’t just relying on narratives

Huh? I said I didn’t have a strong opinion on it but that the Supreme Court seems to agree with you which I don’t hate the decision on. And yes, I said you’re implying things because you’ve continued to dance around with your words

https://www.nyu.edu/about/news-publications/news/2020/may/black-drivers-more-likely-to-be-stopped-by-police.html

So yes you’re going off one guy’s opinion

Well I’m shocked, shocked I say that the guy implying racism against blacks is insignificant is whining about affirmative action in college admissions. I don’t really have a strong opinion on that. It does seem that the Supreme Court now agrees with you which I don’t hate the decision on. I think the spirit of affirmative action was to admit underprivileged blacks who likely would have been more qualified if given the same resources as their wealthier counterparts. But more recently it seems more of the blacks being admitted are just coming from wealthy families anyway. Which brings up a good point that @Jim L gets at below. Much of the discrimination today technically seems to be based more on socioeconomic status than race. But maybe in part because blacks are statistically more likely to be poor, there still is a not-insignificant number of people that will discriminate against them based on their race.

All the definitions I see (Merriam-Webster, Cambridge dictionary, dictionary.com, etc) include some verbiage about a race being superior, so no I wouldn’t say that “positive associations” are part of the definition. @Paul158, did you plagiarize @Hammerlock3’s definition? I see you literally used the same definition word for word yet I’m not seeing this specific phrase anywhere, but feel free to provide the source if there is one (either of you).

Thought this was pretty impressive for SDSU

I know you are grandstanding, but I’ll do my best to answer your questions anyway. Again, my reason for starting this thread was more of a question about whether there is more racism among wrestling fans than society as a whole (I’d lean yes). While x/twitter posts are likely overstating that number, I don’t think it’s drastic. Even though many of the people making racist posts on x/twitter probably wouldn’t say them to a black person’s face, they’re still racist, and could be that hiring manager or landlord that discriminates against them without making the reason known. So, to answer your questions: 1/2. Backing into it, 14%+ of the replies in the post from the OP were racist. I’d guess that’s probably about double the real world, so I’d estimate about 7% of wrestling fans to be racist. I think that’s a little higher than the country as a whole, which I’d estimate at maybe around 5%. 3. I think you think it’s more like 1% or less, but feel free to provide your estimate 4. I think it crosses from insignificant to significant at around 2%.

Uh, saying someone is potentially a bad person is posturing as morally superior. I’d also argue you were posturing as morally superior when you said “who cares” in response to the question about Bartlett’s race. Like I said, I do care what your definition is, but if you weren’t going to share it with everyone I wasn’t going to ask you separately. Thank you for finally providing it, my main curiosity was around the fact that you were complaining about other people making up definitions for it, but as I suspected, your definition was very similar to one of the poster’s you were complaining about. But I do still find it funny the guy essentially saying racism isn’t much of a problem today was calling guys taking a picture racist and stupid…

You're kinda proving my point. Saying "as long as there is a racist person somewhere" implies the racism that exists is minimal. But my point in starting this thread was that 4+ out of 28 comments under that video were racist, suggesting that racism is more prevalent than some like to think. You mean "preaching and moralizing based on anecdotal nonsense" like when you said some guys taking a picture was "racist and stupid"?

This thread was started last season. The first 2 or so may have flown under the radar, but that was about it.

But that was after he had already welched on the Wisconsin bet, so we knew he wouldn’t actually stay true to his word

I know this was posted elsewhere, but relevant here

Franek #2, Zerban Cardenas 6 & 7, Swensen 16-17, I’d say that’s about a wash

It means that while racism is not as blatant and widespread as it was in the 1960s, it is also not as nonexistent as many claim. There are unfortunately a not insignificant number of racist assholes out there. So blacks in particular are likely going to run into someone or multiple people in their lives that they can’t just ignore that does not give them a “fair shake,” moreso than they would have if they were white. Such as a hiring manager, boss, salesperson, landlord, home seller, maybe even wrestling coach or referee, etc. Your turn. What is your definition of racism?

The Tanner Cook situation (when this thread was made) did get a fair amount of attention IMO

Agreed

She posted them on Facebook. Tina Martin-Lillard

But if there are a significant number of ass holes, then not everyone is getting a “fair shake”