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They usually don’t though. Weren’t you just suggesting to change 184/197 to 190/213? I’m on board with that. But we don’t need 197 + another weight before heavyweight. The competition would be extremely watered down

There probably isn’t, but even though most 275+ pound guys could stand to lose a few pounds, we shouldn’t be encouraging weight cutting. If guys are concerned about people leaving the sport, lowering 285 would probably cause people to leave the sport. And considering most of the recent heavyweight champs are in the 250ish range, they don’t seem to mind having to beat up on a few fat dudes to do it.

I don’t really agree with lowering 285, but am good with the others

Evidence of what? Cassioppi was a 3x AA in 3 NCAA tournaments at heavyweight and lost in the first round of the trials against someone that hadn’t even won a college match at that point and is currently 5-5 at 197 this season. If anything he helps prove how much easier heavyweight is than 197.

So between this and your Jacob Warner comment, your entire argument is that if there was also a ~220 class, some guys might place a couple spots higher. Oh and btw Rowlands weighed 220 (source -

Yes they are

Bo Nickal almost lets it slip that Davis and Nagao had a wrestleoff then remembered he wasn’t supposed to say that since Nagao is “injured”

Rhodes seems to be doing pretty well also

His schedule actually looks harder than last year. He only had 3 wins over guys ranked in wrestlestat’s top 20 last year (Allred, Joles, Jaxon Smith). This year he has split with Voelker, and IMO I wouldn’t have expected him to beat Stout or Salazar The main concerning result is against Bates, who he majored last year and lost 8-2 to this year.

I think if Flo paid them both $75K or something to wrestle at 197 after the season that Starocci would definitely do it. Ferrari might depending on how bad he’s hurting for money.

Had never heard of this website before but I thought this guy had some good articles when the story came out. Here’s his review of their pizza steak - https://defector.com/despite-stellar-cheesesteaks-hometown-delis-stock-stays-flat initial article - talks some about wrestling - https://defector.com/a-cnbc-reporter-ruined-my-lunch-plans-a-visit-to-the-n-j-deli-worth-100-million update after indictment of the fraudsters - https://defector.com/feds-publicly-traded-deli-worth-100-million-a-massive-fraud-after-all update last year when one of the fraudsters pleaded guilty - https://defector.com/man-admits-shocking-truth-that-deli-worth-2b-was-part-of-fraud

I don’t think I would put Teasdale in the same category. But yeah. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, I’d expect guys who can qualify for NCAA’s but can’t start to transfer out.

Good to hear. IIRC the guy Patten was either a teammate or wrestler of Morina though. Morina seems to be a standup guy so I’m sure most figured he wasn’t involved. He’s gotta be up there for one of the best coaches in the country. I know they get some move-ins, but the total enrollment is only like 400 and it’s not a great area and smells like all the nearby oil refineries

I don’t recall Iowa losing many transfers prior to last season. Could have been an anomaly. I just looked back since about 2021 and the only other notable one I see was Henson unless I missed any: Henson Siebrecht x2 Rhodes Riggins Glazier Hill PSU seems to lose a guy or so each year: Meredith Verkleeren Negron Barraclaugh Beard Nevills

I mean you could say that about a lot of school’s A teams if you take away their 3 best guys. Even still I’m not sure I agree: PSU has 3 guys that could potentially AA at 197. Evans has beaten an AA Pierce just beat a former R16 guy Sealey as discussed is very good Matt Lee has a win over Julian Ramirez McHenry could probably win a couple matches at NCAA’s So basically, if you take away 3 guys (really 5 if we’re also not including Nagao or Facundo) from their B team, they could still potentially get 6 qualifiers and 1-2 AA’s…

It absolutely helps the other school financially, mostly from traveling or bandwagon PSU fans. Maybe not a “smaller school,” but when PSU went to Oregon Stage last year the attendance was 8,500. When they wrestled Cal Poly two weeks later it was 1,900. Side note Oregon State also hosted Iowa (4,300) and Oklahoma State (2,900) this season.

I’m not sure I’d agree that was a “special situation,” it was just guys filling in because of injury/redshirt. You don’t think Marinopolous would have started at 197 if he could beat Pettigrew? When did Pettigrew get hurt? He had some close losses to good guys, but he really had no good wins.

Dodgeball injury maybe?

Slo mo

No

Wait where was this?

Arnold to 174 really doesn’t make much sense to me on several levels: 1. Didn’t he claim he spent the offseason bulking up?- 2. Didn’t Ferrari say he’d do whatever coach Tom Brands wants him to do? Highly doubt he’d burn Ferrari’s redshirt and have Arnold drop to 174 where he already has 2 AA caliber guys including his nephew. Although I suppose it’s possible that comment from Ferrari was not actually true and he told Brands he wants to wrestle 3. Yes, I get guys want to try to beat the best, but does anyone outside of the Ferrari family actually think he can win 184 this year? He’s blowing whatever chance he had of becoming a 4xer if he wrestles this year

One potential upside for this topic & NIL is that the people paying the money probably want to see the guys they’re paying for more than in just the postseason. For example I believe Steveson said he’ll be at every dual or something.

He better be if he wants to see the lineup. I guess they could still do the Haines redshirt next year

Apparently Keckeisen’s pin has gone viral, probably for the reactions from the cheerleaders