Voice of the Quakers

I think some of the posters are underestimating the importance of Scubb's stat.

The plot thickens... https://uww.org/article/uww-reallocates-16-olympic-games-paris-2024-quotas Eligible and invited athletes with a Russian passport Nachin MONGUSH (MFS 57) Shamil MAMEDOV (MFS 65) Arslan BAGAEV (MFS 86) Abdulla KURBANOV (MFS 125) Alan OSTAEV (GR 87) Magomed MURTAZALIEV (GR 97) 5 Male Allocations Remain Natalya MALYSHEVA (WFS 53) Veronika CHUMIKOVA (WFS 57) REFUSES INVITATION Alina KASABIEVA (WFS 62) Elizaveta PETLIAKOVA (WFS 68) 1 Female Allocation Remains Eligible and invited athletes with a Belarusian passport Yahor AKULICH (MFS 74) REFUSES INVITATION Uladzislau KAZLOU (MFS 97) REFUSES INVITATION Abubakar KHASLAKHANAU (GR 97) Dzmitri ZARUBSKI (GR 130) REFUSES INVITATION 3 Male Allocations Remain Viyaleta REBIKAVA (WFS 53 - ?) She’s competed at 50, but BLR qualified 53. REFUSES INVITATION Krystsina SAZYKINA (WFS 62) REFUSES INVITATION 1 Female Allocation Remains

As a former wrestler, current swim dad, and longtime media researcher, I find all of the analysis here spot on. Two points to add: 1) The Olympics may be a sporting competition but the audience is atypical for a sporting competition, often skewing female and heavy on light sports viewers. For these viewers, swimming is easy to understand, easy to follow, and individual stories resonate over team sports (the Miracle on Ice and the Dream Team excepted). Plus, the ability to follow a single competitor over a multi-day competition is a plus in drawing attention. (The wrestling competition is actually only two days shorter than swimming - 7 v 9 - but once one of our competitors is done they're done.) 2) That being said, the swimming community is perpetually frustrated by its inability to market their sport outside of the Olympics. The show at Lucas Oil Stadium this week is awesome, but long term I wouldn't doubt many would rather have the the regular cadence of big dual meets, the annual party that is NCAAs and the regular TV coverage wrestling gets. For all of our complaints, think about the last time you saw a college swim meet on TV - you probably haven't. And, if you think college wrestling duals don't attract fans, check out a college swim meet. Or, check out the NCAA swim meet - ESPNU replayed it last night and it was strictly a friends and family audience.

Wouldn't be surprised if Tanelli is making more as the head assistant at VT than he was as HC at Columbia even before cost of living adjustments. Not even sure Columbia is paying Pritzlaff more than what he was making at Rutgers That being said, unless your name is David Taylor, this is the type of risk one needs to take to be a head coach. There are a lot of assistant coaches seemingly waiting for the perfect opportunity to move to the head chair. And they will keep waiting, and waiting, and waiting... Best of luck to Pritzlaff. The more competition in the Ivy League, the better.

Everybody is getting what they deserve here. The AINs were the IOC's silly solution to the harder decision they wanted to avoid - whether to exclude an entire country from the Olympics due to non-sporting/political events, in this case Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Thus, the ridiculous concept of Russia and Belarus sending wrestlers to the Euro qualifier with a wink and a nod that they were from Russia and Belarus but wouldn't actually be representing Russia and Belarus. On the flip side, the AINs allowed Putin and Lukashenko to act like everything was normal and that they could send their best athletes with the assumption that would all be cleared after qualification. Then, Ukraine called the IOC's bluff and demanded Sadulaev's exclusion from the Euro qualifiers. I doubt Sadulaev is more or less invested in the invasion of Ukraine that any of the other Russian wrestlers despite his friendship with Kadyrov - the Chechen wrestlers seem to keep their focus close to home, and if Putin calls you probably respond because you don't want your family to be thrown off of the top of a skyscraper - but Ukraine knew they would put a spotlight on the issue with the callout for Sadulaev. So here we are. All of this nonsense when the easier decision would've been for the IOC to expel Russia years ago given the rampant state-supported doping program uncovered during the Sochi games - a ban that would've put the focus on the sporting competition and not world politics. How do people this stupid get to be in charge of anything? At the end, I hope Bey gets a shot at a quota.

Don't feed the trolls.

Coleman Scott has released a statement. All class. https://twitter.com/CScott60kg/status/1789007721053774330/photo/1

Does DT want the nod? Seems like he is moving on. Assuming any of this is true, I'd be fine with sending Zahid.

Not any more... https://www.notredamecollege.edu/main-announcement-info/

Assuming Coleman Scott is not retained by DT and not fired for "cause" he will most likely have the luxury of spending this year on the sidelines with his full salary and be the top choice for any number of D1 HC positions which may come open next season. I wouldn't mind seeing Scott in the Ivy League - the more competition the better - but he doesn't need to rush over to Columbia if the job/pay is not a good fit.

Five Patriot League schools (American, Army, Bucknell, Lehigh, Navy) sponsor wrestling within the EIWA. If a 6th Patriot League school were to add/return wrestling, they all would be gone in a heartbeat. From a wrestling perspective, it makes too much sense to guarantee 10+ NCAA entries for the smallest number of schools possible. And, a league only tournament would be more content they could feed to their media partners (which I believe includes ESPN+).

Gentlemen, start your lawyers!!! https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/40029156/iowa-iowa-state-gambling-lawsuit-civil-rights

And you referred to two instances where a wrestler scored from bottom out of how many matches. Now you reference an all time great here - great arm drag, dude - and one other wrestler there. So, who is exactly citing exceptions? The reality is so much scoring in GR today is accomplished via penalty, which is a problem, and ground wrestling, which I am fine with, that it does not remotely resemble the sport I competed in during the 1980s and 1990s. (I know a fellow poster here has done the analysis - "real" scoring from the 2023 Worlds was, I believe, better than at the 2022 Worlds.) While GR is more popular in Europe, the utter inscrutability of the sport to the general public has caught the IOC's eye. And, anyone who thinks the GR product at OTT will help grow the popularity of the style here is kidding themselves.

The Chechen/Caucasus wrestling tradition is certainly stronger than one strongman, but I am curious of the potential impact of a transition in power in the wrestling community there given his support of martial arts. https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2024/04/23/heir-apparent-en

So, you're saying they scored from par terre? My point exactly.

Par terre is practically guaranteed in Greco - it's the only way anyone scores at the elite level. They even given a point when they simply give the advantage. I wish par terre would replace the shot clock in Free. Being forced down should be a penalty for the passive wrestler. But UWW is more concerned with simply getting a point on the board to determine a leader in the match whether it is Free or Greco.

This is the style worldwide. Winners are determined in par terre. Officials are so desperate to award points we now have the 2 point “correct throw” and 8 point tech falls. I’m not sure I have answers, but I would start by changing the match format to one five minute period and start action on the feet with some sort of chest to chest contact.

My goodness! A gut wrench! In Greco!

Greco wrestling used to have such beautiful rhythm. Not anymore

In fairness to Nolf, his four post step out defense against Boroughs and Dake was on point

Who said only Greco can be won on just penalty points?

Dake with the Three Stooges offense

As a former Greco guy, I have never understood Coon’s approach. He doesn’t use his height at all. He doesn’t attack high/head to snap. He also doesn’t attack low/wrist to hack people up. Instead he tries to just bull thru opponents, gets caught in the middle and becomes launch bait for better wrestlers.

Amazingly, that gold medal may not be in the top three must interesting things about Rulon