jdalu75

That's an awful lot of matches to leave out of today's Coaches' Poll rankings, don'cha think?

That's a relief.

Would streamline matters if we had only one thread on this issue.

So ...... are they going to continue this practice and not count the results of the final duals weekend?

Begs the question: Why?

Penn State wrestled Michigan State yesterday. WrestleStat shows Starocci at 6-0, Truax at 7-1, Brooks at 8-0, and Kerkvliet at 7-0. Eight matches at weight are needed for a CP ranking, so it appears that Truax and Brooks qualify. So it appears that the coaches didn't vote on rankings in the middle of the night, and Sunday's results (at least) weren't counted. In previous years the rankings were released on Thursdays; I was surprised to see them this morning. There's a chance we see revised rankings later in the week.

Check again, though I could be wrong. They originally used last year's calendar and scheduled the final day of results for tournament qualification a week early, on 2/18/2024. A couple of weeks ago the schedule was modified and now shows 2/25/2024 as the final results date. Everything backs up from that date. The original grid was overwritten: https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/championships/sports/wrestling/d1/men/2023-24D1MWR_QualifierAllocationCriteria.pdf These are the dates that I'm using -- Thu, Jan. 25th: First Coaches' Panel (CP) Rankings released Sat, Jan. 27th: Beginning of 30-day period for 3rd CP Rankings Thu, Feb. 15th: Second CP, first Rating Percentage Index (RPI) Rankings released Sun, Feb. 25th: End of 30-day period for 3rd CP Rankings; pre-allocated spots based on matches through this date Thu, Feb. 29th: Third CP, second RPI, NCAA pre-allocated spots announced F/S, Mar. 8th-9th: EIWA tournament Thu, Mar. 14th: At-Large bids released (on or before this date) Thu, Mar. 14th: NCAA Brackets posted; Fourth CP, third RPI released Thu, Mar. 21st: Replacement deadline -- one alternate at each weight class on standby at weigh-ins (two alternates are selected in each weight class) T/F/S, Mar. 21st-23rd: NCAA tournament The rankings released on Mar. 14th will be used to determine the At-Large bids.

Four times, but the 4th is after conference tournaments so nobody notices that one. The 2nd one is in mid-February. But I'm kind of expecting that we'll see a revised 1st set in a day or two -- Penn State had two upperweights wrestle their 8th match yesterday but they're not ranked, which means yesterday's results weren't counted. There's a reason that these rankings have been released on Thursdays in the past; gives time for the coaches to look at all the results.

If you want more falls, then falls need to be worth more. So a fall is worth 6, a tech fall is worth 4, there is no major (too easy with 3-point TDs), and a decision is worth 3.

Beard beat Stout by major, 18-8, at the Princeton Open in November; then tech falled him at Midlands. Beat DePrez by MD last Friday, 12-1. Beat Cardenas 10-3 the following afternoon. The matches will be tougher for the other guys.

BS. MS in 1980, after working three years. When I was younger than some guys still wrestling.

Graduation year.

"Kids"? Bless you, my child. What don't you understand about "lu75"?

Really? I guess I did. Would you post the links so that I can catch up?

Does this strike anyone else as a bit ....... I don't know, excessive, maybe? At some point, doesn't everyone need to get on with the rest of their lives? On ESPN's website: Miami tight end Cam McCormick confirmed Thursday he'd be returning to play for the Hurricanes in 2024 -- his ninth season of college football. McCormick, who began his career at Oregon in 2016, missed significant parts of four different seasons due to injury, which along with his redshirt year and the COVID year of 2020 allowed him to petition the NCAA for an unprecedented ninth season of eligibility.

I'll go with Lehigh's Colin Kilrain in 1981 and 1982. Kilrain was seeded 1st in the 1981 tournament, based on an undefeated season including a win over Ed Banach, the eventual champion. Colin lost 5-3 in the semis to Clarion's Charlie Heller and wrestled back for 3rd place. In 1982 Kilrain was again undefeated and seeded 1st, this time at 190; the other top seeds were Mike Mann, Bill Scherr, and Pete Bush. Colin had beaten Mann and Bush during the season. This was the tournament when Harold Nichols threw a fit over the 190-lb seeding and the seeding committee re-seeded the weight; Mann and Bush were originally seeded 2nd and 3rd and would have met in the semis. Instead Kilrain met Bush in the semis and walked into a 44-second fall. Bush beat Mann 3-3, 2-2, criteria for the title; Kilrain wrestled back and beat Scherr for 3rd. Bush said it was the only time he beat Mann in a lifetime of trying. Kilrain made a career of the Navy, became a Seal, recently retired as a Vice Admiral. His wife is a retired astronaut. One of their children, Sean, is on the Lehigh roster now.

Hunte drew Lehigh's Bob Sloand in the first round in '77. Sloand had talent but was unseeded due to a roller coaster year. He won 9-9, 3-2 against Hunte, won his second match, and then med forfeited the next day due to a knee injury. Defeated wrestlers only wrestled back if they lost to semi-finalists back then, so Hunte was out. Iowa finished 3rd, 11.5 points behind Iowa State; it probably cost Iowa the team title.

Tag team?

That job never stays filled for long; they all OD on fudge ripple.

Their father. Wrestled at Pope John XXIII in Sparta, NJ. Mike's brother Jim also wrestled for Lehigh, son Travis did in the '00s.

Mike Frick in 1976. Defending NCAA champ at 134, missed the fall semester due to academics. Weighing 144, beat Mark Churella at 150 at Midlands, lost by a point to Pete Galea in the finals. At 142 drew with Brad Smith in the Iowa dual, then beat Smith in the All-Star meet. At 150, beat 1975 NCAA 142-lb champ Jim Bennett in the Yale dual. In the NCAA finals at 134 he fell behind 2x champion Pat Milkovich 3-0, then won 7-4. Brad Smith was the 142-pound champion. The top 4 at 150 were Chuck Yagla, Galea, Churella, and Bennett. Finished the season with a 19-0-2 record. I may be just a little bit biased.

Half a dozen years ago there was talk about Pennsylvania shutting down some of the schools like Edinboro, Lock Haven, etc., due to low enrollments. Not shuttering the wrestling programs, shutting down entire colleges. I think that was one reason Flynn left. Kind of hard to recruit for a school that might not be there.

Umm, because he can beat at least half the other guys?

No need to get so excited, D3 ..... Lehigh's won four of the last five duals against Cornell now, nothing special about it .....

Can we vote for more than one? Take the field?