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You should watch Beard's EIWA finals with Cardenas. Then report back as to who was cutting more.

A school with 1900 students that fields more than 25 men's and women's teams. Sounds kind of like an athletic department with a school, not the other way round.

It didn't look good. Cornella had to be helped off the floor, guys on either side helping, dragging the injured leg. I've seen miracles before, but I wouldn't bet anything that he makes it to KC. He's still in the brackets (annoyingly on Track, not Flo). Not sure about Foca. Maybe he could have continued in his final bout, but why risk it when he had a qualifying spot locked up and could only score one team point when the team title was already decided. He didn't look much different from Hines, who injured a shoulder in the semis and looked to be in a lot of pain but managed to continue and completed the tournament; different situation, he didn't have a qualifying spot assured.

I don't care what the rule is, but it ought to be clear. The NCAA has done everything they can to eliminate the "fake" defaults, including making a subsequent med forfeit count as a loss, removing fake defaults from wrestlers' records in duals, changing the at-large criteria to require a wrestler to compete twice at conference tourneys .... I sure thought that showing up at a conference tourney and stepping on and off the mat wouldn't count. Maybe PSU made a valid argument that the loophole wasn't quite closed, and the NCAA agreed. But I seem to remember the phrase "real wrestling has to happen" in there somewhere.

" .... move on"?

Lehigh has eight. Penn does too; they picked up three at-large bids.

The only reason that I can think of is that there were only five wrestlers in the at-large pool. Four received at-large bids, the fifth got the alternate. I didn't think Crawford of F&M was even under consideration (I guess he has both CP and RPI rankings) and he's got a place in the bracket.

I guess we'll find out later today whether three seconds' worth of defaults counts as participation.

Lehigh is sixth in individual champions (28), eighth in All-Americans (160).

I haven't been involved with the EIWA seeding since 2022, which means I probably wouldn't recognize the current process if I saw it. Looking at the 2022 process and assuming that they've just changed some details (weightings of criteria, not the criteria themselves) though, Swisher might receive a decent seed. Quality wins (over someone appearing in the CP or RPI rankings) -- Swisher has beaten Crook and Rivera. Final CP Ranking -- he's 28th, which is worth a few points. Final RPI Ranking -- nope. Div I win % at weight -- Swisher has the best WP of anyone at this weight. Doesn't matter that it's just 9 bouts. Earned an allocation for the conference -- yep. Remember when we were thinking that the EIWA would have just one spot at 149 (maybe you had to read the Lehigh forum)? Got four now. Just a guess -- he draws the 4th or 5th seed. Whoever gets #1 (Ethan Fernandez?) should begin reviewing video of Swisher's bouts.

I was like that, then they made me the EIWA SID. Keep posting and annoying people, it can happen to you.

Sacrifice a chicken and hope for the best?

If you create a system, people will find a way to beat the system. At least he actually wrestled those six bouts. His record at 149 is 8-1; his loss was by one point to Cornell's Ethan Fernandez. His weakest win was a 12-1 major decision. Strength of schedule not impressive. Hard to say that merits #28. WrestleStat is still trying to figure out what to do about him -- they don't show a starter for Penn at 149, they have Swisher ranked 11th overall at 157.

Second RPI Weight First Name Last Name Team RPI Rank League 125 Drake Ayala Iowa 1 Big Ten 125 Cooper Flynn Virginia Tech 2 ACC 125 Matt Ramos Purdue 3 Big Ten 125 Brett Ungar Cornell 4 EIWA 125 Jore Volk Wyoming 5 Big 12 125 Troy Spratley Oklahoma State 6 Big 12 125 Eric Barnett Wisconsin 7 Big Ten 125 Caleb Smith Nebraska 8 Big Ten 125 Noah Surtin Missouri 9 Big 12 125 Braeden Davis Penn State 10 Big Ten 125 Nico Provo Stanford 11 Pac 12 125 Luke Stanich Lehigh 12 EIWA 125 Diego Sotelo Harvard 13 EIWA 125 Patrick McKee Minnesota 14 Big Ten 125 Brandon Kaylor Oregon State 15 Pac 12 125 Tanner Jordan South Dakota State 16 Big 12 125 Anthony Noto Lock Haven 17 MAC 125 Ethan Berginc Army West Point 18 EIWA 125 Jack Maida American 19 EIWA 125 Jett Strickenberger West Virginia 20 Big 12 125 Anthony Molton Campbell 21 SoCon 125 Brendan McCrone Ohio State 22 Big Ten 125 Dean Peterson Rutgers 23 Big Ten 125 Blake West Northern Illinois 24 MAC 125 Conrad Hendriksen Oklahoma 25 Big 12 125 Kysen Terukina Iowa State 26 Big 12 125 Max Gallagher Pennsylvania 27 EIWA 125 Sean Spidle Central Michigan 28 MAC 125 Spencer Moore North Carolina 29 ACC 125 Nick Babin Columbia 30 EIWA 125 Dom Mendez Cal Poly 31 Pac 12 125 Elijah Griffin California Baptist 32 Big 12 125 Tristan Lujan Michigan State 33 Big Ten 133 Dylan Ragusin Michigan 1 Big Ten 133 Evan Frost Iowa State 2 Big 12 133 Kai Orine NC State 3 ACC 133 Tyler Wells Minnesota 4 Big Ten 133 Julian Farber Northern Iowa 5 Big 12 133 Dylan Shawver Rutgers 6 Big Ten 133 Nasir Bailey Little Rock 7 Pac 12 133 Sam Latona Virginia Tech 8 ACC 133 Nic Bouzakis Ohio State 9 Big Ten 133 Marlon Yarbrough Virginia 10 ACC 133 Zeth Romney Cal Poly 11 Pac 12 133 Dominick Serrano Northern Colorado 12 Big 12 133 Jacob Van Dee Nebraska 13 Big Ten 133 Michael Colaiocco Pennsylvania 14 EIWA 133 Domenic Zaccone Campbell 15 SoCon 133 Derrick Cardinal South Dakota State 16 Big 12 133 braden basile Army West Point 17 EIWA 133 Gabe Whisenhunt Oregon State 18 Pac 12 133 Ethan Oakley Appalachian State 19 SoCon 133 Kurt Phipps Bucknell 20 EIWA 133 Vincent Santaniello Pittsburgh 21 ACC 133 Braxton Brown Maryland 22 Big Ten 133 Mason Leiphart Franklin & Marshall 23 EIWA 133 Micah Roes Binghamton 24 EIWA 133 Hunter Leake California Baptist 25 Big 12 133 Julian Chlebove Arizona State 26 Pac 12 133 Gable Strickland Lock Haven 27 MAC 133 Nicolar Rivera Wisconsin 28 Big Ten 133 Blake Boarman Chattanooga 29 SoCon 133 Brendan Ferretti Navy 30 EIWA 133 Jace Koelzer Oklahoma 31 Big 12 133 Jace Palmer North Carolina 32 ACC 133 Richie Koehler Rider 33 MAC 141 Beau Bartlett Penn State 1 Big Ten 141 Jesse Mendez Ohio State 2 Big Ten 141 Real Woods Iowa 3 Big Ten 141 Ryan Jack NC State 4 ACC 141 Malyke Hines Lehigh 5 EIWA 141 Sergio Lemley Michigan 6 Big Ten 141 Cael Happel Northern Iowa 7 Big 12 141 Josh Koderhandt Navy 8 EIWA 141 Brock Hardy Nebraska 9 Big Ten 141 Wyatt Henson Lock Haven 10 MAC 141 Anthony Echemendia Iowa State 11 Big 12 141 Lachlan McNeil North Carolina 12 ACC 141 Vince Cornella Cornell 13 EIWA 141 Tagen Jamison Oklahoma State 14 Big 12 141 Danny Fongaro Indiana 15 Big Ten 141 Danny Pucino Illinois 16 Big Ten 141 Mitch Moore Rutgers 17 Big Ten 141 Jordan Titus West Virginia 18 Big 12 141 Kal Miller Maryland 19 Big Ten 141 Greyson Clark Purdue 20 Big Ten 141 Isaiah Powe Chattanooga 21 SoCon 141 Jordan Hamdan Michigan State 22 Big Ten 141 Cleveland Belton Oregon State 23 Pac 12 141 Jack Gioffre Virginia 24 ACC 141 CJ Composto Pennsylvania 25 EIWA 141 Jimmy Nugent Central Michigan 26 MAC 141 Clay Carlson South Dakota State 27 Big 12 141 Dylan Layton Cleveland State 28 MAC 141 Cole Matthews Pittsburgh 29 ACC 141 Josh Edmond Missouri 30 Big 12 141 Kai Owen Columbia 31 EIWA 141 Vance Vombaur Minnesota 32 Big Ten 141 Gavin Drexler North Dakota State 33 Big 12 149 Kyle Parco Arizona State 1 Pac 12 149 Caleb Henson Virginia Tech 2 ACC 149 Ridge Lovett Nebraska 3 Big Ten 149 Casey Swiderski Iowa State 4 Big 12 149 Dylan D`Emilio Ohio State 5 Big Ten 149 Corbyn Munson Central Michigan 6 MAC 149 Jackson Arrington NC State 7 ACC 149 Kelvin Griffin Lehigh 8 EIWA 149 Ethan Fernandez Cornell 9 EIWA 149 Willie McDougald Oklahoma 10 Big 12 149 Matthew Williams Army West Point 11 EIWA 149 Graham Rooks Indiana 12 Big Ten 149 Alek Martin South Dakota State 13 Big 12 149 Joseph Zargo Wisconsin 14 Big Ten 149 Chance Lamer Cal Poly 15 Pac 12 149 Ethen Miller Maryland 16 Big Ten 149 Cody Bond Appalachian State 17 SoCon 149 Jaivon Jones Northern Illinois 18 MAC 149 Ty Watters West Virginia 19 Big 12 149 Jaden Abas Stanford 20 Pac 12 149 Gabe Willochell Wyoming 21 Big 12 149 Jordan Williams Oklahoma State 22 Big 12 149 Nick Stonecheck Lock Haven 23 MAC 149 Quinn Kinner Rider 24 MAC 149 Derek Raike Ohio 25 MAC 149 Finn Solomon Pittsburgh 26 ACC 149 Caleb Tyus SIU Edwardsville 27 MAC 149 Drew Roberts Minnesota 28 Big Ten 149 Michael Cetta Rutgers 29 Big Ten 149 Jack Crook Harvard 30 EIWA 149 eligh rivera Princeton 31 EIWA 149 Zach Price Gardner-Webb 32 SoCon 149 Maxwell Petersen North Dakota State 33 Big 12 157 Meyer Shapiro Cornell 1 EIWA 157 Jared Franek Iowa 2 Big Ten 157 Ed Scott NC State 3 ACC 157 Bryce Andonian Virginia Tech 4 ACC 157 Jacori Teemer Arizona State 5 Pac 12 157 Levi Haines Penn State 6 Big Ten 157 Will Lewan Michigan 7 Big Ten 157 Peyton Robb Nebraska 8 Big Ten 157 Peyten Kellar Ohio 9 MAC 157 Max Brignola Lehigh 10 EIWA 157 Vinny Zerban Northern Colorado 11 Big 12 157 Ryder Downey Northern Iowa 12 Big 12 157 Michael Blockhus Minnesota 13 Big Ten 157 Daniel Cardenas Stanford 14 Pac 12 157 Lucas Revano Pennsylvania 15 EIWA 157 Colton Washleski Rider 16 MAC 157 Cody Chittum Iowa State 17 Big 12 157 Chase Saldate Michigan State 18 Big Ten 157 DJ Mcgee George Mason 19 MAC 157 Trevor Chumbley Northwestern 20 Big Ten 157 Brock Mauller Missouri 21 Big 12 157 Matty Bianchi Little Rock 22 Pac 12 157 Cael Swensen South Dakota State 23 Big 12 157 Tommy Askey Appalachian State 24 SoCon 157 Joey Blaze Purdue 25 Big Ten 157 Johnny Lovett Central Michigan 26 MAC 157 Alejandro Herrera-Rondon Clarion 27 MAC 157 Nathan Lukez Army West Point 28 EIWA 157 Michael North Maryland 29 Big Ten 157 Sonny Santiago North Carolina 30 ACC 157 Connor Eck Lock Haven 31 MAC 157 Chris Earnest Campbell 32 SoCon 157 Blake Saito Brown 33 EIWA 165 Mitchell Mesenbrink Penn State 1 Big Ten 165 Dean Hamiti Wisconsin 2 Big Ten 165 Keegan O`Toole Missouri 3 Big 12 165 Izzak Olejnik Oklahoma State 4 Big 12 165 Mike Caliendo Iowa 5 Big Ten 165 David Carr Iowa State 6 Big 12 165 Julian Ramirez Cornell 7 EIWA 165 Gunner Filipowicz Army West Point 8 EIWA 165 Tyler Lillard Indiana 9 Big Ten 165 Antrell Taylor Nebraska 10 Big Ten 165 Garrett Thompson Ohio 11 MAC 165 Giano Petrucelli Air Force 12 Big 12 165 Hunter Garvin Stanford 13 Pac 12 165 Brevin Cassella Binghamton 14 EIWA 165 Noah Mulvaney Bucknell 15 EIWA 165 Caleb Fish Michigan State 16 Big Ten 165 Cameron Amine Michigan 17 Big Ten 165 Connor Brady Virginia Tech 18 ACC 165 Jake Logan Lehigh 19 EIWA 165 Cael Carlson Oklahoma 20 Big 12 165 Peyton Hall West Virginia 21 Big 12 165 Stoney Buell Purdue 22 Big Ten 165 Joseph Bianchi Little Rock 23 Pac 12 165 Bryce Hepner Ohio State 24 Big Ten 165 Andrew Cerniglia Navy 25 EIWA 165 Maxx Mayfield Northwestern 26 Big Ten 165 Blaine Brenner Minnesota 27 Big Ten 165 Brendan Howes North Dakota State 28 Big 12 165 Chance McLane Arizona State 29 Pac 12 165 Holden Heller Pittsburgh 30 ACC 165 Cody Walsh Drexel 31 EIWA 165 Will Miller Appalachian State 32 SoCon 165 Anthony White Rutgers 33 Big Ten 174 Cade DeVos South Dakota State 1 Big 12 174 Edmond Ruth Illinois 2 Big Ten 174 Nick Incontrera Pennsylvania 3 EIWA 174 Philip Conigliaro Harvard 4 EIWA 174 Adam Kemp Cal Poly 5 Pac 12 174 Max Maylor Wisconsin 6 Big Ten 174 Gaven Sax North Dakota State 7 Big 12 174 Luca Augustine Pittsburgh 8 ACC 174 MJ Gaitan Iowa State 9 Big 12 174 Danny Wask Navy 10 EIWA 174 Austin Murphy Campbell 11 SoCon 174 Rocco Welsh Ohio State 12 Big Ten 174 Lennox Wolak Columbia 13 EIWA 174 Jackson Turley Rutgers 14 Big Ten 174 Tyler Eischens North Carolina 15 ACC 174 Justin McCoy Virginia 16 ACC 174 Donnell Washington Indiana 17 Big Ten 174 Jared Simma Northern Iowa 18 Big 12 174 Bubba Wilson Nebraska 19 Big Ten 174 Tate Picklo Oklahoma 20 Big 12 174 Alex Cramer Central Michigan 21 MAC 174 Sal Perrine Ohio 22 MAC 174 Benjamin Pasiuk Army West Point 23 EIWA 174 Brody Conley West Virginia 24 Big 12 174 Brayden Thompson Oklahoma State 25 Big 12 174 Noah Fox Franklin & Marshall 26 EIWA 174 Lucas Uliano Appalachian State 27 SoCon 174 Brody Baumann Purdue 28 Big Ten 174 Sergio Desiante Chattanooga 29 SoCon 174 Myles Takats Bucknell 30 EIWA 174 Michael Wilson Rider 31 MAC 174 Benny Baker Cornell 32 EIWA 174 Alex Faison NC State 33 ACC 184 Parker Keckeisen Northern Iowa 1 Big 12 184 Dustin Plott Oklahoma State 2 Big 12 184 Lenny Pinto Nebraska 3 Big Ten 184 Will Feldkamp Iowa State 4 Big 12 184 Bennett Berge South Dakota State 5 Big 12 184 Sam Wolf Air Force 6 Big 12 184 Trey Munoz Oregon State 7 Pac 12 184 Isaiah Salazar Minnesota 8 Big Ten 184 Dylan Fishback NC State 9 ACC 184 Chris Foca Cornell 10 EIWA 184 Ryder Rogotzke Ohio State 11 Big Ten 184 Jaden Bullock Michigan 12 Big Ten 184 Nate Dugan Princeton 13 EIWA 184 Aaron Ayzerov Columbia 14 EIWA 184 Maximus Hale Pennsylvania 15 EIWA 184 Reece Heller Pittsburgh 16 ACC 184 Shane Liegel Wisconsin 17 Big Ten 184 James Conway Franklin & Marshall 18 EIWA 184 Layne Malczewski Michigan State 19 Big Ten 184 Jacob Nolan Binghamton 20 EIWA 184 Dennis Robin West Virginia 21 Big 12 184 Gavin Kane North Carolina 22 ACC 184 Cameron Pine Clarion 23 MAC 184 Caleb Hopkins Campbell 24 SoCon 184 Matt Zuber Northern Illinois 25 MAC 184 Jha`Quan Anderson Gardner-Webb 26 SoCon 184 Roman Rogotzke Indiana 27 Big Ten 184 Brian Soldano Rutgers 28 Big Ten 184 Mikey Bartush Bucknell 29 EIWA 184 Troy Fisher Northwestern 30 Big Ten 184 Tony Negron Arizona State 31 Pac 12 184 Giuseppe Hoose Oklahoma 32 Big 12 184 Jack Wilt Lehigh 33 EIWA 197 Tanner Sloan South Dakota State 1 Big 12 197 Jacob Cardenas Cornell 2 EIWA 197 Michael Beard Lehigh 3 EIWA 197 Trent Hidlay NC State 4 ACC 197 Lou Deprez Binghamton 5 EIWA 197 Zach Glazier Iowa 6 Big Ten 197 Jaxon Smith Maryland 7 Big Ten 197 Stephen Buchanan Oklahoma 8 Big 12 197 Silas Allred Nebraska 9 Big Ten 197 Evan Bockman Utah Valley 10 Big 12 197 Luke Stout Princeton 11 EIWA 197 Cole Urbas Pennsylvania 12 EIWA 197 Joseph Novak Wyoming 13 Big 12 197 Luke Geog Ohio State 14 Big Ten 197 Andy Smith Virginia Tech 15 ACC 197 Max Shaw North Carolina 16 ACC 197 Nikolas Stemmet Stanford 17 Pac 12 197 Levi Hopkins Campbell 18 SoCon 197 Garrett Joles Minnesota 19 Big Ten 197 Sam Mitchell Buffalo 20 MAC 197 Justin Rademacher Oregon State 21 Pac 12 197 Wyatt Voelker Northern Iowa 22 Big 12 197 stephen little Little Rock 23 Pac 12 197 Jack Wehmeyer Columbia 24 EIWA 197 Mac Stout Pittsburgh 25 ACC 197 Evan Bates Northwestern 26 Big Ten 197 John Crawford Franklin & Marshall 27 EIWA 197 Benjamin Smith Cleveland State 28 MAC 197 Austin Cooley West Virginia 29 Big 12 197 Logan Deacetis Bucknell 30 EIWA 197 Gabe Sollars Indiana 31 Big Ten 197 Xavier Vasquez Northern Colorado 32 Big 12 197 Kael Wisler Michigan State 33 Big Ten 285 Yonger Bastida Iowa State 1 Big 12 285 Nathan Taylor Lehigh 2 EIWA 285 Lucas Davison Michigan 3 Big Ten 285 Konner Doucet Oklahoma State 4 Big 12 285 Zach Elam Missouri 5 Big 12 285 Nick Feldman Ohio State 6 Big Ten 285 Josh Heindselman Oklahoma 7 Big 12 285 Yaraslau Slavikouski Rutgers 8 Big Ten 285 Grady Griess Navy 9 EIWA 285 Cory Day Binghamton 10 EIWA 285 Wyatt Hendrickson Air Force 11 Big 12 285 Owen Trephan NC State 12 ACC 285 Lewis Fernandes Cornell 13 EIWA 285 Daniel Bucknavich Cleveland State 14 MAC 285 Taye Ghadiali Campbell 15 SoCon 285 Hunter Catka Virginia Tech 16 ACC 285 Matthew Cover Princeton 17 EIWA 285 Boone McDermott Oregon State 18 Pac 12 285 Lucas Stoddard Army West Point 19 EIWA 285 Michael Wolfgram West Virginia 20 Big 12 285 Dorian Crosby Bucknell 21 EIWA 285 Seth Nevills Maryland 22 Big Ten 285 David Szuba Rider 23 MAC 285 Josh Terrill Michigan State 24 Big Ten 285 Bradley Hill Iowa 25 Big Ten 285 Nick Willham Indiana 26 Big Ten 285 Keaton Kluever Hofstra 27 EIWA 285 Bennett Tabor Minnesota 28 Big Ten 285 Luke Rasmussen South Dakota State 29 Big 12 285 Jacob Sartorio Appalachian State 30 SoCon 285 Peter Ming Stanford 31 Pac 12 285 Ryan Catka Virginia 32 ACC 285 John Stout Pennsylvania 33 EIWA

I'm still on the list! Third Coaches Ranking Weight Rank First Name Last Name Team League Points 125 1 Matt Ramos Purdue Big Ten 396 125 2 Drake Ayala Iowa Big Ten 381 125 3 Luke Stanich Lehigh EIWA 362 125 4 Eric Barnett Wisconsin Big Ten 361 125 5 Braeden Davis Penn State Big Ten 323 125 6 Cooper Flynn Virginia Tech ACC 319 125 7 Caleb Smith Nebraska Big Ten 312 125 8 Noah Surtin Missouri Big 12 298 125 9 Stevo Poulin Northern Colorado Big 12 295 125 10 Troy Spratley Oklahoma State Big 12 294 125 11 Patrick McKee Minnesota Big Ten 290 125 12 Michael DeAugustino Michigan Big Ten 253 125 13 Jore Volk Wyoming Big 12 246 125 14 Tanner Jordan South Dakota State Big 12 217.5 125 15 Brett Ungar Cornell EIWA 210 125 16 Jakob Camacho NC State ACC 207 125 17 Brandon Kaylor Oregon State Pac 12 200 125 18 Nico Provo Stanford Pac 12 191.5 125 19 Richard Figueroa Arizona State Pac 12 185.5 125 20 Anthony Noto Lock Haven MAC 154.5 125 21 Brendan McCrone Ohio State Big Ten 143 125 22 Anthony Molton Campbell SoCon 129 125 23 Dean Peterson Rutgers Big Ten 120.5 125 24 Diego Sotelo Harvard EIWA 101 125 25 Elijah Griffin California Baptist Big 12 90 125 26 Trever Anderson Northern Iowa Big 12 85.5 125 27 Dom Mendez Cal Poly Pac 12 74 125 28 Jack Maida American EIWA 60.5 125 29 Kysen Terukina Iowa State Big 12 55.5 125 30 Jett Strickenberger West Virginia Big 12 54 125 31 Ethan Berginc Army West Point EIWA 53 125 32 Brayden Palmer Chattanooga SoCon 44 125 33 Spencer Moore North Carolina ACC 33 133 1 Ryan Crookham Lehigh EIWA 391 133 2 Daton Fix Oklahoma State Big 12 384 133 3 Vito Arujau Cornell EIWA 377 133 4 Dylan Ragusin Michigan Big Ten 354 133 5 Kai Orine NC State ACC 352 133 6 Nasir Bailey Little Rock Pac 12 336 133 7 Dylan Shawver Rutgers Big Ten 311 133 8 Evan Frost Iowa State Big 12 308 133 9 Aaron Nagao Penn State Big Ten 293 133 9 Nic Bouzakis Ohio State Big Ten 293 133 11 Zeth Romney Cal Poly Pac 12 262 133 12 Michael Colaiocco Pennsylvania EIWA 247.5 133 13 Sam Latona Virginia Tech ACC 247 133 14 Dominick Serrano Northern Colorado Big 12 225 133 15 Jacob Van Dee Nebraska Big Ten 214.5 133 16 Kurt Phipps Bucknell EIWA 196.5 133 17 Braxton Brown Maryland Big Ten 186 133 18 Julian Farber Northern Iowa Big 12 179.5 133 19 Tyler Wells Minnesota Big Ten 160.5 133 19 Derrick Cardinal South Dakota State Big 12 160.5 133 21 Julian Chlebove Arizona State Pac 12 154.5 133 22 Domenic Zaccone Campbell SoCon 131.5 133 23 Kade Moore Missouri Big 12 113 133 24 Vincent Santaniello Pittsburgh ACC 97.5 133 25 Brody Teske Iowa Big Ten 94.5 133 26 Anthony Madrigal Illinois Big Ten 88.5 133 27 Ethan Oakley Appalachian State SoCon 87 133 28 Blake Boarman Chattanooga SoCon 84.5 133 29 Mason Leiphart Franklin & Marshall EIWA 63.5 133 30 braden basile Army West Point EIWA 56.5 133 31 Marlon Yarbrough Virginia ACC 54 133 32 Gabe Whisenhunt Oregon State Pac 12 53.5 133 33 Brendan Ferretti Navy EIWA 34 141 1 Beau Bartlett Penn State Big Ten 396 141 2 Jesse Mendez Ohio State Big Ten 379 141 3 Real Woods Iowa Big Ten 377 141 4 Ryan Jack NC State ACC 358 141 5 Lachlan McNeil North Carolina ACC 339 141 6 Brock Hardy Nebraska Big Ten 335 141 7 Anthony Echemendia Iowa State Big 12 315 141 8 Tagen Jamison Oklahoma State Big 12 313 141 9 Cael Happel Northern Iowa Big 12 311 141 10 Sergio Lemley Michigan Big Ten 284 141 11 Jordan Titus West Virginia Big 12 275 141 12 Vince Cornella Cornell EIWA 270 141 13 Josh Koderhandt Navy EIWA 247 141 14 Cole Matthews Pittsburgh ACC 234 141 15 Tom Crook Virginia Tech ACC 227 141 16 Wyatt Henson Lock Haven MAC 206.5 141 17 Malyke Hines Lehigh EIWA 195.5 141 18 CJ Composto Pennsylvania EIWA 175.5 141 18 Mitch Moore Rutgers Big Ten 175.5 141 20 Josh Edmond Missouri Big 12 169.5 141 21 Cleveland Belton Oregon State Pac 12 163 141 22 Jesse Vasquez Arizona State Pac 12 155.5 141 23 Clay Carlson South Dakota State Big 12 128.5 141 24 Kal Miller Maryland Big Ten 100.5 141 25 Danny Fongaro Indiana Big Ten 98 141 26 Danny Pucino Illinois Big Ten 94 141 27 Vance Vombaur Minnesota Big Ten 84 141 28 Jordan Hamdan Michigan State Big Ten 60 141 29 Haiden Drury Utah Valley Big 12 46.5 141 30 Cole Brooks Wyoming Big 12 46 141 31 Isaiah Powe Chattanooga SoCon 39.5 141 32 Gavin Drexler North Dakota State Big 12 36 141 32 Kai Owen Columbia EIWA 36 149 1 Ridge Lovett Nebraska Big Ten 390 149 2 Caleb Henson Virginia Tech ACC 385 149 3 Kyle Parco Arizona State Pac 12 376 149 4 Jackson Arrington NC State ACC 359 149 5 Austin Gomez Michigan Big Ten 342 149 6 Casey Swiderski Iowa State Big 12 338 149 7 Ty Watters West Virginia Big 12 324 149 8 Caleb Rathjen Iowa Big Ten 298 149 9 Tyler Kasak Penn State Big Ten 294 149 10 Chance Lamer Cal Poly Pac 12 288 149 11 Jaden Abas Stanford Pac 12 280 149 12 Dylan D`Emilio Ohio State Big Ten 276 149 13 Corbyn Munson Central Michigan MAC 252 149 14 Joseph Zargo Wisconsin Big Ten 219 149 14 Ethen Miller Maryland Big Ten 219 149 16 Graham Rooks Indiana Big Ten 199.5 149 17 Willie McDougald Oklahoma Big 12 198.5 149 18 Jordan Williams Oklahoma State Big 12 172.5 149 19 Alek Martin South Dakota State Big 12 146.5 149 20 Drew Roberts Minnesota Big Ten 143 149 21 Ethan Fernandez Cornell EIWA 138 149 22 Cody Bond Appalachian State SoCon 128 149 23 Logan Gioffre Missouri Big 12 127.5 149 24 Caleb Tyus SIU Edwardsville MAC 106 149 25 Noah Castillo Chattanooga SoCon 91 149 26 Gabe Willochell Wyoming Big 12 85 149 27 Quinn Kinner Rider MAC 79 149 28 Michael Cetta Rutgers Big Ten 76 149 28 Jude Swisher Pennsylvania EIWA 76 149 30 Nash Singleton Oregon State Pac 12 53 149 31 eligh rivera Princeton EIWA 46 149 32 Jayden Scott North Carolina ACC 37 149 33 Jaivon Jones Northern Illinois MAC 34.5 157 1 Levi Haines Penn State Big Ten 396 157 2 Vinny Zerban Northern Colorado Big 12 380 157 3 Michael Blockhus Minnesota Big Ten 366 157 4 Jacori Teemer Arizona State Pac 12 365 157 5 Jared Franek Iowa Big Ten 338 157 6 Meyer Shapiro Cornell EIWA 333 157 7 Daniel Cardenas Stanford Pac 12 331 157 8 Ryder Downey Northern Iowa Big 12 307 157 9 Peyton Robb Nebraska Big Ten 299 157 10 Teague Travis Oklahoma State Big 12 275 157 11 Cody Chittum Iowa State Big 12 274 157 12 Brock Mauller Missouri Big 12 272 157 13 Ed Scott NC State ACC 245 157 14 Brayton Lee Indiana Big Ten 240 157 15 Will Lewan Michigan Big Ten 231 157 16 Peyten Kellar Ohio MAC 224 157 17 Cael Swensen South Dakota State Big 12 193 157 18 Joey Blaze Purdue Big Ten 191 157 19 Chase Saldate Michigan State Big Ten 188.5 157 20 Max Brignola Lehigh EIWA 137.5 157 21 Tommy Askey Appalachian State SoCon 133.5 157 22 Trevor Chumbley Northwestern Big Ten 133 157 23 DJ Mcgee George Mason MAC 125 157 24 Johnny Lovett Central Michigan MAC 118 157 25 Lucas Revano Pennsylvania EIWA 117 157 26 Matty Bianchi Little Rock Pac 12 109.5 157 27 Legend Lamer Cal Poly Pac 12 55 157 28 Colton Washleski Rider MAC 49.5 157 29 Sonny Santiago North Carolina ACC 45 157 30 Isaac Wilcox Ohio State Big Ten 40 157 31 Jared Hill Oklahoma Big 12 39 157 31 Dylan Cedeno Virginia ACC 39 157 33 Alejandro Herrera-Rondon Clarion MAC 25.5 165 1 Keegan O`Toole Missouri Big 12 396 165 2 David Carr Iowa State Big 12 383 165 3 Julian Ramirez Cornell EIWA 363 165 4 Dean Hamiti Wisconsin Big Ten 359 165 5 Mitchell Mesenbrink Penn State Big Ten 357 165 6 Mike Caliendo Iowa Big Ten 335 165 7 Izzak Olejnik Oklahoma State Big 12 322 165 8 Peyton Hall West Virginia Big 12 316 165 9 Caleb Fish Michigan State Big Ten 299 165 10 Antrell Taylor Nebraska Big Ten 281 165 11 Cameron Amine Michigan Big Ten 277 165 12 Garrett Thompson Ohio MAC 265 165 13 Giano Petrucelli Air Force Big 12 246 165 14 Bryce Hepner Ohio State Big Ten 218 165 15 Brevin Cassella Binghamton EIWA 214 165 16 Holden Heller Pittsburgh ACC 203.5 165 17 Andrew Cerniglia Navy EIWA 200 165 18 Derek Fields NC State ACC 194 165 19 Noah Mulvaney Bucknell EIWA 183 165 20 Connor Brady Virginia Tech ACC 172 165 21 Gunner Filipowicz Army West Point EIWA 134.5 165 22 Will Miller Appalachian State SoCon 131.5 165 23 Tyler Lillard Indiana Big Ten 129.5 165 24 Joseph Bianchi Little Rock Pac 12 127 165 25 Hunter Garvin Stanford Pac 12 114 165 26 Maxx Mayfield Northwestern Big Ten 111.5 165 27 Stoney Buell Purdue Big Ten 88.5 165 28 Domonic Baker Campbell SoCon 84.5 165 29 Cael Carlson Oklahoma Big 12 45 165 30 Blaine Brenner Minnesota Big Ten 42 165 31 Jake Logan Lehigh EIWA 39 165 32 Chance McLane Arizona State Pac 12 30 165 33 Cody Walsh Drexel EIWA 27 174 1 Carter Starocci Penn State Big Ten 396 174 2 Mekhi Lewis Virginia Tech ACC 384 174 3 Shane Griffith Michigan Big Ten 371 174 4 Cade DeVos South Dakota State Big 12 361 174 5 Philip Conigliaro Harvard EIWA 341 174 6 Patrick Kennedy Iowa Big Ten 328 174 7 Nick Incontrera Pennsylvania EIWA 326 174 8 Edmond Ruth Illinois Big Ten 324 174 9 Adam Kemp Cal Poly Pac 12 296 174 10 Peyton Mocco Missouri Big 12 280 174 11 Rocco Welsh Ohio State Big Ten 263 174 12 Benjamin Pasiuk Army West Point EIWA 246 174 13 Max Maylor Wisconsin Big Ten 243 174 14 Lennox Wolak Columbia EIWA 228 174 15 Justin McCoy Virginia ACC 225 174 16 Jackson Turley Rutgers Big Ten 211 174 17 Luca Augustine Pittsburgh ACC 203.5 174 18 MJ Gaitan Iowa State Big 12 165 174 19 Tyler Brennan Little Rock Pac 12 158.5 174 20 Brayden Thompson Oklahoma State Big 12 141.5 174 21 Gaven Sax North Dakota State Big 12 141 174 22 Austin Murphy Campbell SoCon 134 174 23 Tyler Eischens North Carolina ACC 131.5 174 24 Donnell Washington Indiana Big Ten 123.5 174 25 Brody Conley West Virginia Big 12 98 174 26 Danny Wask Navy EIWA 80.5 174 27 Alex Cramer Central Michigan MAC 78 174 28 Sal Perrine Ohio MAC 76 174 29 Jared Simma Northern Iowa Big 12 69 174 30 Tate Picklo Oklahoma Big 12 59 174 31 Bubba Wilson Nebraska Big Ten 47 174 32 Alex Faison NC State ACC 46.5 174 33 Andrew Sparks Minnesota Big Ten 26.5 184 1 Parker Keckeisen Northern Iowa Big 12 396 184 2 Dustin Plott Oklahoma State Big 12 384 184 3 Lenny Pinto Nebraska Big Ten 368 184 4 Trey Munoz Oregon State Pac 12 361 184 5 Isaiah Salazar Minnesota Big Ten 348 184 6 Bernie Truax Penn State Big Ten 329 184 7 Chris Foca Cornell EIWA 314 184 8 Bennett Berge South Dakota State Big 12 302 184 9 Dylan Fishback NC State ACC 292 184 10 Will Feldkamp Iowa State Big 12 277 184 11 Sam Wolf Air Force Big 12 271 184 12 Reece Heller Pittsburgh ACC 270 184 13 Jacob Nolan Binghamton EIWA 218.5 184 14 Thomas Stewart Jr Virginia Tech ACC 215.5 184 15 Jaden Bullock Michigan Big Ten 210.5 184 16 Shane Liegel Wisconsin Big Ten 201.5 184 17 Colton Hawks Missouri Big 12 195.5 184 18 Layne Malczewski Michigan State Big Ten 191 184 19 Maximus Hale Pennsylvania EIWA 175 184 20 Aaron Ayzerov Columbia EIWA 169.5 184 21 Nate Dugan Princeton EIWA 157.5 184 22 Brian Soldano Rutgers Big Ten 143 184 23 James Conway Franklin & Marshall EIWA 142.5 184 24 Ryder Rogotzke Ohio State Big Ten 119 184 25 Gavin Kane North Carolina ACC 106 184 26 Troy Fisher Northwestern Big Ten 105 184 27 Zayne Lehman Ohio MAC 89 184 28 Jha`Quan Anderson Gardner-Webb SoCon 61 184 29 Jacob Armstrong Utah Valley Big 12 56.5 184 30 Dennis Robin West Virginia Big 12 54 184 31 Tony Negron Arizona State Pac 12 43 184 32 Caleb Hopkins Campbell SoCon 41 184 33 Cameron Pine Clarion MAC 25.5 197 1 Aaron Brooks Penn State Big Ten 396 197 2 Trent Hidlay NC State ACC 384 197 3 Michael Beard Lehigh EIWA 361 197 4 Tanner Sloan South Dakota State Big 12 357 197 5 Jaxon Smith Maryland Big Ten 342 197 6 Stephen Buchanan Oklahoma Big 12 340 197 7 Lou Deprez Binghamton EIWA 323 197 8 Jacob Cardenas Cornell EIWA 316 197 9 Rocky Elam Missouri Big 12 305 197 10 stephen little Little Rock Pac 12 292 197 11 Zach Glazier Iowa Big Ten 277 197 12 Luke Stout Princeton EIWA 255 197 13 Silas Allred Nebraska Big Ten 254 197 14 Evan Bockman Utah Valley Big 12 226 197 15 Mac Stout Pittsburgh ACC 211 197 16 Nikolas Stemmet Stanford Pac 12 201.5 197 17 John Poznanski Rutgers Big Ten 189.5 197 18 Levi Hopkins Campbell SoCon 181.5 197 19 Max Shaw North Carolina ACC 165.5 197 20 Luke Surber Oklahoma State Big 12 159.5 197 21 Joseph Novak Wyoming Big 12 156.5 197 22 Garrett Joles Minnesota Big Ten 151.5 197 23 Luke Geog Ohio State Big Ten 141.5 197 24 Wyatt Voelker Northern Iowa Big 12 125 197 25 Andy Smith Virginia Tech ACC 105 197 26 Cole Urbas Pennsylvania EIWA 102 197 27 Justin Rademacher Oregon State Pac 12 84.5 197 28 Sam Mitchell Buffalo MAC 64 197 29 John Crawford Franklin & Marshall EIWA 54 197 30 Jack Wehmeyer Columbia EIWA 45 197 31 Benjamin Smith Cleveland State MAC 40.5 197 32 Evan Bates Northwestern Big Ten 34.5 197 33 Gabe Sollars Indiana Big Ten 28.5 285 1 Greg Kerkvliet Penn State Big Ten 396 285 2 Wyatt Hendrickson Air Force Big 12 382 285 3 Yonger Bastida Iowa State Big 12 374 285 4 Cohlton Schultz Arizona State Pac 12 356 285 5 Zach Elam Missouri Big 12 345 285 6 Lucas Davison Michigan Big Ten 342 285 7 Nathan Taylor Lehigh EIWA 318 285 7 Nick Feldman Ohio State Big Ten 318 285 9 Taye Ghadiali Campbell SoCon 304 285 10 Josh Heindselman Oklahoma Big 12 277 285 11 Konner Doucet Oklahoma State Big 12 271 285 12 Owen Trephan NC State ACC 265 285 13 Yaraslau Slavikouski Rutgers Big Ten 259 285 14 Cory Day Binghamton EIWA 226 285 15 Grady Griess Navy EIWA 215 285 16 Tyrell Gordon Northern Iowa Big 12 212 285 17 Lewis Fernandes Cornell EIWA 207 285 18 Hunter Catka Virginia Tech ACC 188 285 19 Keaton Kluever Hofstra EIWA 171 285 20 Boone McDermott Oregon State Pac 12 154.5 285 21 josiah hill Little Rock Pac 12 141 285 21 Daniel Bucknavich Cleveland State MAC 141 285 23 Trevor Tinker Cal Poly Pac 12 114 285 24 Lucas Stoddard Army West Point EIWA 113.5 285 25 Dorian Crosby Bucknell EIWA 97.5 285 26 Seth Nevills Maryland Big Ten 93 285 27 David Szuba Rider MAC 90 285 28 Matthew Cover Princeton EIWA 71.5 285 29 Jacobi Jackson Northern Illinois MAC 63.5 285 30 Bennett Tabor Minnesota Big Ten 54 285 31 Luke Rasmussen South Dakota State Big 12 39 285 32 Ryan Catka Virginia ACC 33 285 33 Bradley Hill Iowa Big Ten 27

TGINACMF!

I'm hoping that I'm still on the NCAA's mailing list, but that doesn't always help. Either last year or the year before they didn't send an e-mail, posting the release on ncaa.com, not the D1 wrestling page. I was looking in the wrong places.

Nathan Taylor. He weighs about 275.

Here's one measure -- Princeton won its first dual under Ayres in his third season as head coach.

You've gotta have ESPN+. Attendance reported as 2,546. The dual was at Annapolis. Here's Navy's take: The Mids needed Smith to pin No. 31 Matt Williams to win the dual. Smith opened the match on a great note by scoring two takedowns in the first period to gain a 6-2 lead. Smith went up, 7-2, after scoring an escape in the second, but Williams responded with his first takedown to decrease his deficit to just two points. Williams started the third period with an escape to make the score, 7-6. Later in the third, Smith scored his third takedown and shifted Williams on his back. Smith looked to be close to a pin on multiple occasions, but the officials only gave him a four-point near fall. Although Smith won the match by a 17-8 major decision, his win only scored Navy four points. Gunner Filipowicz upset Cerniglia at 165.

Wrestleknownothing messaged the correct answer to me yesterday but suggested not posting the answer until today. So --- Ted Anderson of Central Oklahoma in 1936 and George Lewis of Waynesburg in 1948. It can't be done under current rules, so the answers come from tournaments that didn't use those rules. The 1936 and 1948 tournaments used the Olympic bad-mark system and also Olympic weight classes and rules. Losing a bout earned 2 or 3 bad marks; winning a decision earned 1; winning by fall, forfeit, or default earned none. Things we'd consider weird happened; for instance, in 1936 Lehigh's Dick Bishop lost a decision but his opponent was the one eliminated -- the guy hit his bad mark limit (5), Bishop advanced and finished 4th. In 1936 Rudy Ashman (Lehigh) beat Anderson in the first round at 123 pounds but was injured and couldn't continue. Anderson won the rest of his bouts and won the title. 1948 was more complicated. Paul McDaniel (Oklahoma State) came into Round 5 at 125 pounds with 1 bad mark; Rometo Macias had 4, Gene McDonald had 2, Lewis had 1. Five bad marks eliminated a wrestler; these were the last four guys alive. Lewis had beaten Macias and McDonald already. So Macias pinned McDonald, who was eliminated; McDaniel beat Lewis by decision. Now Macias had 4 bad marks, McDaniel 2, Lewis 4. Macias and McDaniel had not yet wrestled, so in Round 6 Macias decisioned McDaniel, leaving both wrestlers with 5 bad marks. There was no Round 7. Lewis, with 4 bad marks, was the champion. McDaniel, having lost to Macias, was 3rd. One odd note: none of these guys wound up wrestling in the 1948 Olympics. That honor went to Iowa State Teacher College's Gerry Leeman, who'd been eliminated in the 4th round. Leeman took silver at London (so .... no better than 5th at NCAAs, 2nd in the World).

Some folks had him ranked as the #1 recruit; how'd he lose two?

WrestleStat picked Fernandez

141, right?

Cowcards gave me permission to post this question, and also suggested rewording to make it easier to understand. I'll post the answer tomorrow (unless someone gets it by then). Who are the only two wrestlers to win an NCAA title while losing a match at that year's tournament?