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Yes you're right, I believe it's John's son- coach at St Ed's I believe?

Also, im assuming this is Jim Heffernan's son? Lots of great wrestling history in that family... Best case scenario in my opinion for the area is they start a team and become a powerhouse national prep program. Maybe many of those kids go on to wrestle at other schools around the country but some would definitely potentially trickle up the UB program and that would make them a lot more competitive and they get to keep these kids at a young age in one area or system similar to what David Taylor and Jordan Burroughs have described. While it would never be at that level given that UB is in the MAC it would still amazing to see the area really blossom. Given its proximity to PA and Ohio and any kids that want to cross the boarder from Canada.

I just learned Coach Heffernan relocated to Buffalo, NY to become the AD at a small private school in Buffalo which unfortunately doesn't have a wrestling program... I know his wife is from the area but wonder if he's looking to get a program going there for high school or hanging around to potentially get involved at University at Buffalo? Does anyone have any connections to him?

Oh I denounce stupidity all the time you just don't read very carefully. I did earlier in this thread ironically. I love finding things we can agree on and it's definitely the weekend, enjoy! I'm off to do some woke things haha

It's probably because you only listen to Charlie Kirk and Alex Jones... I also love your argument is boiling down to: it's diFeRenT!!! I feel like that's what all the liberals would argue and here you are doing the same thing haha.

Don't be so sad... I already made my point that conservatives are the queens of cancel culture and have been doing it for ages, you just have a different flavor but aren't self aware enough to admit it which is a common trait of conservatives (self-awareness.) I mean should I start going down a list starting with how your boys tried to kidnap and kill Governor Whitmer? You sure have a lot of big feelings right now, you just need to learn how to reflect on them and find the commonalities between your flavor of ice cream vs someone else's - in the end, both flavors are still just ice cream...

Maybe you guys really don't understand what cancel culture is after all... that's not surprising.

Conservatives lose a presidential election? They riot, damage property, storm the capital, beat cops and *I poop my pants, don't laugh at me* on people's desks. Someone believes in god? They can't just go about their day but make legislative changes to put up the 10 commandments in classrooms in an entire state. Are there people that do stupid *I poop my pants, don't laugh at me* on both sides and destroy property? Yeah no doubt... To pretend like conservatives have some more high ground because they didn't break a window on a Tesla is laughable. The fact that Trumps DOJ is making a deal with a pedofile to save his own ass after campaigning on release of the unvarnished truth is morally evil and reprehensible. I actually was hopeful there for a bit there was finally a bipartisan issue we could all get behind but low and behold MAGA is marching in place. I'd rather not associate myself with the party protecting pedofiles. I'll let that one sit for a while...

This is the most delusional post I've ever seen to say that there is no conservative cancel agenda haha... All you have to do is watch Fox News for 5 minutes to see this and it goes way back. If by some chance you are serious and not just trolling (which is largely the MAGA party platform under Trump) you really need to take a step back... The right has always been the party of the culture wars and cancel culture is a foundational part of that. The left has certainly gone too far with it on certain things in the past but to say there is no conservative agenda is one of the most naive things I've seen posted here.

Yes because half the country doesn't have an issues with those things... Just because something is available doesn't mean it hasn't been a victim of cancel culture... Dr Seuss books are also still available but we can agree the liberals tried to cancel certain books because of outdated racist tropes.... I swear the amount of playing dumb here about cancel culture is mind boggling. At least liberals owned it when they cancelled people vs the GOP who pretends like they aren't.

At least you recognize that the GOP uses censorship... that's a start I suppose

This is such a sensationalist joke. You act like it's part of a curriculum. If this is even remotely true it was probably some problem child kid that brought it in and he's probably from Mississippi... That's like you being mad when a liberal says all republicans just want to force feed Christ to every kid and ban any Muslim kid from attending school (probably happened in one school in Oklahoma somewhere) but it would be stupid of me to even argue that point because I know although a one off, is not true for the rest of the population... I'm happy to debate and jab but don't come to the playground with that weak crap

I forgot to add things like early/higher education into my list but I suppose I could think of a new thing every few minutes and I would just end up in here all day listing the things being cancelled by the GOP

Promises made promises.... well maybe not so much...

Bro.... come on... you know what cancel culture is because you all screamed about it when it happened when the shoe was on the other foot... Now the sides reverse and your response is seriously "how is it cancel culture?!?!?" And "define cancel culture!!!" You are the party of cancel culture and it's obvious and doesn't need explaining.

We are basically living in the MAGA cancel culture world right now... everything that offends maga = cancelled. Bud-lite Drag shows Books NPR NFL Electric Vehicles Renewable Energy Big tech until big tech helps them and then big tech again Colbert The list goes on and on... For a group that is all pro-free speech and yada yada they are more heavily into cancel culture than the dems were. The recent south park episode while on brand for South Park- the parent company really allowed them go hard to essentially provide cover to the narrative that they are doing Trumps bidding to get a multi-billion dollar merger approved which happened a week later. I find it very hard to believe the Late show was the big thing holding up the deal from happening on the balance sheet.... For those that don't know companies have "loss leaders" or products that they sell at a loss for consumer interest and to upstream them to more products with greater profit margins. This is not a new concept and Colbert was no different.. people watch Colbert or subscribe to the streaming service to see his show and then watch other shows.

The other way to look at this is him saying in the back of his mind "If Hulk Hogans league existed I may not have made even close to the amount of money I did in the WWE...phew"

I think it's great wrestling and the event in particular is getting this exposure. What I find odd is how it seems like wrestling is almost being politically commandeered or owned by right wing politics. I don't say that to start a debate but just seeing how things have played out with the prez at NCAAs and the spectacle that was made on his entrance, Bo Nickal and his outward political nature, Dan Gable stumping for trump in Iowa and just the kind of people that seem to be involved lately even at a youth wrestling level. Just never really saw that in other fringe sports before to my knowledge. Maybe it's just the nature of wrestling being more of a blue collar sport and the rural/urban divide but it's just a weird thing to watch happen in real time... Maybe it's always been a sport with the same people but the attention it gets from folks on the right side of the spectrum just seems to be increasing and more in your face than it ever was:.

Because at the end of the day I think we can agree we all want to see two guys at their absolute best compete for a spot and that's clearly not what we got today.

I agree 100% but unfortunately the world isn't always as fair minded as that and we live in a "what have you done for me lately society" I very much hope that's not the case but it may be naive to think that doesn't occupy the space of some recruits minds... I'm sure Grey can navigate those conversations effectively tho.

Does anyone know what his injury was/is that he's been dealing with?

Regardless of Vito's condition, I do worry what this means for Cornell RTC and Grey's ability to recruit some top tier guys... I've always been a big fan with what Cornell has been able to achieve when you take into account their limitations compared to the non-ivy but having two guys go down to high school kids is not the greatest look right now... I could be jumping the gun obviously because Vito has two chances left but I don't see him getting stronger today...

Nickal has got to be one of the most annoying guys in recent memory to come out of NCAA wrestling... The entitlement and arrogance he speaks with on his podcasts is nauseating. He's the kind of guy that is either figuratively or literally going to get punched in the mouth in his life and hopefully is force-fed some humble pie.

I think your understanding of the matter is what is shifting because of how detailed and verbose we have to be in order to get the point across that this isn't a matter of denigrating his belief in god but rather his attitude. And after having to fully lay out the reasons people find him a bit insufferable at times you may finally agree but that would mean admitting you may have been partiallly wrong or at least give ground to the opposing viewpoint which is a bridge to far for some on here.

Completely forgot about this, I was just laughing out loud to how crazy that sounds...