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I am not one for being forced to prove my sincerity by complying with what others deem is either acceptable or unacceptable. That being said, I would not have responded with that gif knowing full well what the response would be. I believe it was intended to illicit the kind of response and anger from those of you that find it reprehensible and they succeeded in that vain. It seems everyone on here at some time or another has said something to "trigger" another whether it be after a shooting, about gender identity, political issues, immigration etc... I don't think it is necessary to dig through threads to paste gifs or responses that I or others found offensive that yourself or others may have posted in the past. I think we can all look in the mirror and own that we all have probably crossed that line and we don't always know when or what topic that finally does go past that line. The one point I think I can get behind if you're trying to make it, is that we should hold those on "our side" accountable when they do something we know in our fabric to be in bad taste, rude, incendiary etc... That being said, Trip- if we are going to try to demand moral standards from those we disagree with- we need to walk the walk too.

Jimmy and others on the other side of the aisle- I condone and condemn the violence committed against him and others whether they are in the political arena or otherwise. It is a shame and I feel terrible for his family and above all his two young children. I know temperatures are high right now especially on this board. Measured responses are probably best and cooler heads should prevail. If this was someone on the left I would probably be outraged beyond belief and can understand why some are on here. I certainly did not support his positions or stance on things and believe things he has said have been very inflammatory but it shouldn't take a father from his daughters. Charlie Kirk however is not the first political assassination that has happened in our lives and won't be the last unfortunately. Just recently democratic lawmakers were killed in their homes in front of their kids by someone posing as a police officer. Also a political assassination. This should serve to remind us that we should all treat human life with the dignity that it deserves but also the potential consequences of both sides continually trying to out do each other with incendiary comments. I'm hearing lawmakers on the news say things like "our enemies in this country" and "we have to fight to take it back from these people" It confuses me because we are all Americans in the country. We shouldn't continue to "other" those that we don't agree with that are fellow citizens. We need to learn how to better share our ideas without dehumanizing each other in the process because it leads to a lack of respect for our fellow Americans and and their sanctity of life and results in horrible acts such as this one.

Bro- I agree with you. Term limits and all that jazz... You're angry and so am I but they are making us angry at each other versus them. It's like we're all pawns on a chessboard and only want to take out each other versus all the pawns going after the king(s). There is strength in numbers but we are being systematically divided through algorithms, direct/indirect propaganda, news, pundits, entertainment etc...

The flaw in your logic is that both democrats and republicans could come together and hold those accountable that should be. It's not the Democrats fault People like Epstein and those associated with him committed these crimes... You are naive to think both sides wouldn't use this for political gaines, I would have thought that was assumed. Case in point -MAGA campaigning on releasing the files and then not doing it to gain votes! Come on boss...

If there are just as many liberal billionaires donors on the list as billionaire MAGA donors it would be a self inflicted wound to them. They probably weighed the cost/benefit analysis of Taking Trump down and realized it would be world ending for everyone involved so they didn't go there... I think we still all underestimate just what people are willing to do to keep their wealth and power intact. We are on here fighting incessantly because that's exactly what all these oligarchs want. If we ever agreed that we had more in common than we don't and turned our collective ire at them to make things better or face the consequences - it would be devastating to them from both influence and a money perspective. We now are so entrenched on our own tribes that even when there is something basic like kids not going hungry at school or people being allowed to keep firearms (albeit as long as they aren't nuts) out starting point is at the very end of the continuum and we won't even consider it. We disagree just because people are on opposite teams which is ridiculous. The Epstein files are a nuclear bomb and democrats and republicans/MAGA live in the same house. They pass the bomb back and forth and hate each other but neither are willing to detonate it because self preservation is more important than taking out their foe.

Didn't realize we had an expert among us on pedophiles through history... interesting... gross - but interesting...

I had anticipated your deflection and already started to type the response above. At least now you can take me off your list of asking the same question over and over and over and over and over and well you get the point I'm sure...maybe

I can't speak for all but I can speak for myself about the question that's been repeated on here ad nauseum by the "deflectors" Why weren't democrats screaming about this when Biden was president???? So similar to how liberals have tried to indict Trump on every single thing he does and all of us have become desensitized to it- the same goes for MAGA. We've been hearing about all your crazy nonsense for years about Jewish space lasers, Pizza gate, stolen elections, Tom Hanks being apart of the elite cult that drinks kids' blood and so on... When MAGA started crying about the Epstein files I really didn't pay it much attention because it just seemed like another one of their crazy conspiracy theories so just as all you MAGA folks disregard the left, I disregarded them/you. It wasn't until I saw the parade of people brought into the White House holding binders with "Epstein Files" printed on them and subsequently those people being disappointed by the non release of information and the botching and double speak of the AG that I really started to pay attention. Then when Trump started screaming about how it's a Hoax by the democrats and tried a million things to redirect public attention I thought, "hey, he's really scared shitless by this..." Now last week you have the speaker of the house claiming he was an FBI informant which the White House denies (because we all know 99% of FBI informants are typically nefarious people themselves trying to save their own a$$) You also have him going after Massie and others calling it a hostile act to be transparent with the files and it's really hard to ignore there isn't something damaging to him in some way in them. You also had Massie release a name from the Epstein Black book this week that was a major Trump donor... (Again I'm certain there are those in both parties that are implicated) Do I want Trump to get what's always been coming to him? Absolutely. But I also don't care if it drags down all these other elites and republicans/democrats alike if they are guilty of said crimes or engaging in the covering up of them. You don't have to be a pedo to be complicit and held accountable. So that is my explanation, and there has been a MONUMENTAL effort by the MAGAs on here to deflect and change the subject but no one has directly mentioned Trump by name and said "If Trump is on it, he should go down with all of them and all his connections and circumstial evidence of at least some level of involvement are suspicious at the absolutely least."

What you described isn't deflection... deflection is changing course, deviating from the subject, changing the subject altogether or engaging in whataboutism. Your point is invalidated in that the example itself is not at all what deflection is. Examples of deflection from the MAGA folks have been more along the lines of: "the files are compromised, we'll never see them anyways..." "Why didn't they get released under Biden???" "Bill Clinton this and that..." and so on...

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/james-okeefe-joseph-schnitt-doj-epstein-files_n_68b9f090e4b09c6f4cf68efb There you have it- both sides are confirmed on the list and the administration wants to cover up their own transgressors.... absolutely sickening to be the party covering for these evil people. a quote from the DOJ official: "If they’re released in any way, it’s going to be very redacted. They’ll redact every Republican or conservative person in those files, leave all the liberal Democratic people in those files,” Joseph Schnitt, acting deputy chief of the DOJ’s Office of Enforcement Operations, says in the video. Schnitt apparently thought he was speaking to someone he’d met through a dating app, but he was actually talking to an undercover operative for the right-wing entrepreneur James O’Keefe. The right has lost any and all moral high ground in this and has zero credibility.

I'm in the same boat with Amex platinum... I can get some of that annual fee back through travel perks and credits that aren't insignificant but I don't feel like I'm getting the most bang for my buck when it comes to daily purchases

Also- don't forget to ask which way people voted, if they're here legally and if they'd be willing to troll libtards for you when your hands get tired in exchange for some MAGA flakes

I'll bet you can't make it until this afternoon to comment again... this is like crack cocaine for you haha

Well at least your generation gets to use social security (socialist program by the way) my generation is just paying for yours to troll libtards and pitch tents while you have your kids drive you to dialysis every day.

This must be a word a lot of geriatrics use... my wife's father uses it and he's well into his 70s

Just save a little bit of that big pile of money you're sitting on to help pay for your life support once your carpal tunnel doesn't allow you to troll the libtards anymore haha or arthritis or amputation due to type 2 diabetes... whichever one of those you have... of course I'm not wishing sickness on you, just hoping you save enough for the high cost of care you'll need. as a wokester- I care about you jimmy- I care for all living things...

This sounds like a very socialist and liberal thing to say

Doesn't sound like a statement from an old guy just trying to "fit it in"

Do you mean some desert to pitch your tent on? Just watch out for flash flooding... also make sure it's somewhere with a cell tower so you still have the ability to troll libtards

I think this is that famous maga projection coming out... Honestly I can see why you have fun trolling but I don't think I would base my entire existence around it...

This sounds like you might be an addict... do you have a drinking problem by chance? That could explain a lot... I bet you have a lot of time to troll while going through dialysis

That's what the people say at your homeless shelter... isnt really evidence you're not living in a tent haha

No need, I get a discount on the dollar menu!

If I'm spending all my time trolling libtards when I retire I'm not sure I would consider myself being successful in life...

I love your need to flex the 1/4 acre of land you bought that you pitch your Coleman tent on haha... (queue a post that you list the square footage)