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I thought the exact same thing lol. But hey we’ve had plenty of gold medalists that came on and shocked the world without any par tarre offense. Not everyone is a Spencer Freakin Lee

Lee hangs on… he’s lucky ref didn’t call him for a step out or a caution on that first one, but I have no doubt he would’ve dug deep to hang on. Nice job! He is on a mission!

That was nice. I’ve seen a lot of wrestling and I don’t think I’ve ever seen that before. Pretty cool to see that innovation

FIFY

I would agree it’s extremely difficult to compare across sports. However, everyone is already doing it. I’ve often heard Phelps described as the greatest Olympian of all time. Even if there is no way to objectively determine the right answer, a good GOAT debate is always fun

No one on this board talks about Greco which is why you haven’t heard him mentioned in P4P arguments. I’m sure he would be #1 on every Greco ranking P4P. Phelps is absolutely incredible but his gold medal record is 23 out of 29 (79%) vs Lopez at 5 out of 5 (100%). Note that excludes each of their first Olympics where neither medaled. I’m still more impressed with Lopez with 5 in row

Congrats to Sarah! Love her fun-loving attitude. Hopefully she inspires more young girls and boys to have FUN in the sport!

6.6 pounds is likely only a very small amount of food and almost all water weight

Too soon, but well done nonetheless lol

Yeah makes sense she had to go for broke, but didn’t they go to two hour weigh ins? I can’t believe she beat an all time great like that right off the scale when she is cutting that much. She had an amazing tournament so far, so this must be heartbreaking

Wow! That is crazy… how did she wrestle so well yesterday when she was cutting that much weight?! She looked amazing yesterday. Hopefully, she is ok and fully recovers

Good context on Phelps level of dominance. I did not know he had that many world records. I do know he had some defeats in some of his races as well (except for 2008 which is probably the best single Olympic performance from any athlete of all time). Here’s some context on Lopez. During his 5 Olympic titles, he outscored his opponents 98-5… averaging only giving up one point per tournament. He won 3 Olympic titles in a row without giving up a single point! (That is really a mind blowing level of dominance to me). Plus, you have to consider that he could’ve scored a lot more points if he needed or wanted to. He did not compete in any competition between Tokyo and Paris and still dominated. I don’t think he even competed at all between Rio and Tokyo either, but I’m not 100% sure of that. He also won 5 world title and 3 silvers… it’s widely speculated that the silvers are only because he had some “incentive” to not win gold.

I agree Bolt and Biles are both incredible and deserve to be in the conversation too. However… “I swear it upon Zeus an outstanding runner cannot be the equal of an average wrestler.” — Socrates

Yes, but wrestling in both styles is way more complex and way more rare than swimming multiple events. There’s a lot of technique to swimming, but not even close to the amount in wrestling. So I don’t think competing in multiple swimming events really makes you stand out that much more. When was the last time a wrestler even qualified for both styles in the Olympics? That’s not a fair comparison IMO

I’m sure it’s minority opinion, but I think there’s a good case to make for Lopez over Phelps as the GOAT of the Olympic Games. Phelps overall medal count is unbelievable, but he is also in the only sport that provides that number of opportunities. To put it simply, Phelps was the best swimmer at 4 Olympics, and Lopez was the best wrestler at 5 Olympics. It may be hard to validate if Lopez truly was the best wrestler at each of those Olympics because there are two “events” in the sport of wrestling - freestyle and Greco. But I would think you could argue that he was the “best” overall at each of those games. He’s in the heaviest weight class and I’ve heard it said that a Greco wrestler would do better in freestyle than a freestyle wrestler would in Greco (not sure if that can be verified though). Was Phelps the best individual swimmer at each of his Games? I’d assume so, but maybe someone that follows swimming like WKN can verify?

Amit Elor! She is incredible. Well on her way to becoming the best female wrestler we have ever had

Lopez is amazing! To be that dominant that long is truly incredible. Awesome to watch such a historic feat!

Wow! Awesome match from Hildebrandt! Incredible defense and perfectly planned and executed attacks. So pumped for her! Hope she can put together one more awesome match for the gold!

^ Flo shared those on Facebook. I found them very helpful, but yeah, sometimes I debate if it’s worth it to keep Facebook too

That score was wrong and it was never 7-2. Was 3-0 AZE and there was a sequence that looked like it could’ve been scored 4 red and 2 blue, but blue did not expose, so they ended up getting it right and only gave 2 to the Mongolian. Then the Mongolian got another takedown to win it.

If she was born and raised in America, I don’t understand how that wouldn’t make her American? Unless, you are Native American, all of us are made up from 100% blood of other nations.

And yet our American youth wrestlers have to get 300 matches a year to be competitive lol

Lopez clears his biggest hurdle in his pursuit of a historic 5th Olympic gold! Was surprised the Iranian did not choose to take his opportunity on top? Lopez’s one turn ended up being the difference. Unfortunately, for Coon it eliminates from the competition. Literally, the worst possible draw… he could have been the third best guy, but we will never know.

Amit is so impressive with dominating position at all times, but not over pursuing and getting herself in trouble. Looking like a savy veteran