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Glad they fixed the score with Kilty… I couldn’t figure out how the other girl was getting points while being leg laced!

Yeah I know. There was never a big emphasis on the University worlds either.

I think the better question is why do we even have a U23 world championship? 22 and 23 year olds are literally in the prime of their life and the best ones can and do wrestle seniors. I’m all for more wrestling experience and opportunities for age level world championships, but I think you could cut it off at U20. So, IMO, it’s not very concerning that we didn’t send our best team to U23.

Blaze is the top of this group imo. He is incredible for his age and I think he has tools that translate well to the next level. I love watching Bassett wrestle and I’m a big fan, but it think he will have a little bit tougher transition because he dominates so much with his pace but makes a few mistakes along the way. If he can clean them up he has the attitude to be next level. I think Duke and Jax are both going to be great at the next level and just a step behind Blaze

I guess it’s a matter of preference, but I will say it wasn’t a bad movie. My expectations were just extremely high. Steve Carell is one of my favorite actors of all time and Channing Tatum is one of my wife’s favorite actors (not sure why lol). And the movie was an about one of the craziest wrestling stories ever. I really thought it would be my new all time favorite movie. Probably unfair expectations, but it really wasn’t close to my favorite

I didn’t watch U20s, but after Blazes performance this weekend, I came back here thinking who the heck would’ve beaten him at U20s that he “only” got bronze?! Apparently the dude is pretty good lol

I’m too late to edit but was referring to JB vs Haines… not Ringer

Steps outs are definitely offensive points. They aren’t takedowns and they aren’t worth as much as takedowns. But I am glad they award the guy taking an offensive attack and driving his opponent out of bounds. Using JB and Ringer as an example, JB was definitely on the attack and earned those push outs. That’s not always the case, but I think the majority of the time it is and I’m glad they award those points.

I’m excited for the movie! However, I don’t want to get my hopes too high. Foxcatcher had an all star cast as well (even more so than this) and it was a bit of a let down IMO

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He would say, I wish I would’ve stuck with wrestling instead of WWE and NFL…. Oh, wait, wrong Gable

Can Iowa still contend with Penn State after all these losses?

Here’s a good analogy… from this picture, more voting districts voted red, but blue actually got more votes. Therefore, blue was actually more popular. I think there’s very good evidence to suggest this would hold true in the popularity of freestyle vs Greco

These are both correct in a way. As others have mentioned, world entry’s don’t tell us how popular it is world wide, but it should help us realize it is more widespread and it’s popularity is probably more than we give it credit for in the US. However, when you look at countries that have high populations, freestyle tends to be more popular, which would lead to the conclusion that freestyle is more popular. Yes, we don’t have the exact data, but it’s pretty easy to draw conclusions from the data we do have. Look at the population for countries such as USA, Russia, Iran, China, Japan, India, and all prefer freestyle… that’s probably the majority of the worlds wrestling population right there

I think Marsteller is probably his biggest obstacle to a world gold. Stylistically, JB has struggled a bit against guys like him that can hold position and don’t let him wrestle from space. Marstellar has recently committed to getting bigger and wrestling 86, so we aren’t sure what he’s going to look like at 79 (I don’t think it should be too much of a problem though). Plus, It’s a little different now that JB isn’t “the guy” so maybe JB’s game plan will be as good as Marstellers was. You never know, but I’m not counting out JB. He is not in his prime, but his prime was so high that he is still incredibly elite. People keep comparing him to himself from 10 years ago and think he’s not as good. That may be true, but no one in the world at 79 kg is even close to as good as 2014 Burroughs (assuming Dake and some of the other heavy hitters aren’t there). I think 2024 Burroughs is close enough that he could win another world championship this year.

Honestly, I think the biggest thing is he wants to retire on his terms. He wasn’t giving that hostile Penn state crowd the satisfaction at OTT. He’s already got himself in excellent shape, so why not try to end on a high note of maybe winning another world title? He believes he’s capable, and I don’t doubt him

To me, it didn’t sound like retirement was a definite, but I would guess it will be. Either way, congrats to him on a great career!

I thought it was great! Made me chuckle each time

Definitely we want more weights. The issue that a lot of people don’t realize is that it has nothing to do with the number of medals. It’s all about the number of participants. So to get more weights you’d have to make the brackets smaller than 16 (which no countries outside of the top 3 or 4 would vote for), or cut Greco which might sound like a good idea to US but not the rest of the world. So we are pretty much stuck

Rivera’s bronze match has to be up there.

Honest question and I’m not sure the answer, but I get the impression that maybe we are focusing too much on heavy strength training? We see athletes with a lot of mass, and I’m wondering if that’s part of the conditioning issues? Those huge muscles take up a lot of oxygen. Look at guys like Taz, Amouzad, all of the Japanese wrestlers and you can tell they are strong but don’t have the mass like Snyder, Brooks, Lee, Parris, and Zain. Dake is probably the exception, but we know he does more “functional” training. I have no idea how these other train, so it’s just a theory, but does anyone else think this could be an issue?

I don’t think they are trying to diminish silver and bronze… they are simply looking for a good story line. That’s what the media does. As you said the medal count wasn’t even a race. The gold count is a nail biter and generates some excitement.

Sleeping in on the last day?! Disappointed lol

You are talking about two different things here. Obviously an individual would rather have one gold than multiple silvers and bronze. But we are talking about a TEAM. That is totally different. One team member getting gold and then six out seven wrestlers DNP with none even wrestling for a medal is not even close to as good as medals in half the weights and another in 5th. In what world is 4 out of 6 in the top 5 worse than 1 out of 7 in the top 5? Again, I’m not saying I’m happy with our performance. We should’ve done better. But our team is still much better than it was 16 years ago

No it’s not even close. Yes, we underperformed. Yes, we deserve some constructive criticism. But USA wrestling is not falling apart, and it’s not even close to our worst performance in 50 years. Even just back in 2016 was probably a worse performance. We only had two medals compared to 3. And as it’s been mentioned 2008 we only had one medal and even though it was gold there were seven weights and we had six other wrestlers who didn’t even come close to medaling. No way that’s better than this year! And that’s only going back 16 years…