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I think it could happen. I think other things could happen as well. These high earners are in the upper realms of their companies if not the owners. There are lots of options to show low W2 earnings and still make a lot under the table. Who makes 400k? Certainly not me. Those are reserved for the top guys and they can do things us schlubbs can't. I just was giving one idea of how they might skirt the rules. I'm sure, when properly motivated, CPAs will figure out how to do whatever it takes to shield income from taxation. They already do. mspart

Are you saying that Mike Pence is in Congress and has floated this as a bill? Oh, I thought not. Nice try. It is timely but not on topic. mspart mspart

I think I did and maybe you didn't catch it. The extrapolation depends on everything staying the same. You don't extrapolate on changing conditions throughout the extrapolation. If things change as i suggested that salaries decrease but remuneration is given in other ways to maintain the overall earnings package, then that would be a change the extrapolation couldn't account for. It would be nice if it were linear. If life were linear, things would be so much simpler. mspart

If you would discuss this in any manner, civilly or not, that would be a nice change. I'm only trying to point out that you say things and do not back them up. And when finally pushed to do so, your stuff doesn't back up anything you have said. That really is not so much snide as what I am observing here. If you feel it is snide, that is on you. Moving the goalposts? Not really. I'll restate the question I have repeated over and over and over and over that you have not actually responded to: Which R, other than Rick Scott, has proposed altering SS or MC in 2023? That is a really simple question with a really simple answer. The answer is either none, or these folks and cite the legislation they have proposed. Very simple. mspart

Extrapolation must be used in many cases. But extrapolation doesn't prove your point. Extrapolation, in this case, assumes things will remain as they are today with only one change. But it doesn't take into account that as one thing changes, so may many others. mspart

Finally, something that kind of looks like something. From the TIME article: But Scott wasn’t alone among Republicans in floating ideas that could lead to the paring back of federal entitlements. The Republican Study Committee, a quasi in-house think tank for the House GOP conference, unveiled a 2023 budget blueprint last year that would raise the Medicare eligibility age from 65 to 67 and the Social Security eligibility age from 65 to 69. Thank you for finally providing something that supports your position. The question is, are they acting on this plan? Not to my knowledge. mspart

Are you sure you want to use that one. Where does this document say 100% fixed? mspart

That's a tough bracket for sure!! 3 champs! Wow! mspart

https://intermatwrestle.com/articles/26509 97KG How did he get ranked at #5? He has not wrestled at 97 yet at a ranking tourney as far as I know. I'm curious how this can be. Also curious how all those Russians are listed? 11 of 20 are RUS. Seems a bit odd also. mspart

The CNBC link doesn't say anything about getting rid of the shortfall 100%. Quote: Increasing the level of income at which Social Security payroll taxes are reapplied to income of more than $400,000 would eliminate 61% of the shortfall, researchers estimate. The proposal is popular with the public, having earned its own slogan, “Scrap the Cap.” So please provide something that provides some kind of evidence to support your claim. This is becoming a habit with you. You never directly answer a question, provide a link, it doesn't answer the question, and you keep dodging. I'm just asking you to support your perspective. That should be easy but apparently is not. mspart

Granted we will not agree on this idea. But you again did not respond to the question: Which current Rs have stated in 2023 they want to get rid of SS and are offering legislation to do that other than Rick Scott? mspart

The Actuary.org link says nothing about dumping the salary cap. mspart

OK, you should not type and slurp ramen at the same time, agreed! I'll take a look at those. mspart

You shared a whitehouse screed. Did you read it? If you had, you wouldn't have put it up. I quoted from it. It was talking about in the past Rs wanted to change SS. And that is true. But we are not talking about the past. We are talking about right now. You intimated that you would share data that showed lots of Rs are trying to get rid of or otherwise change SS. You have not provided that. Now Rick Scott has a bill he offered to sunset any programs after 5 years for re-upping this year. That would include SS. It is not a bad idea in general for most programs to be reconsidered, but when the Rs figured out it meant SS and MC, they roundly criticized him and rejected the idea. Are you saying that puts them on record to want to change SS? Which current Rs have stated in 2023 they want to get rid of SS and are offering legislation to do that other than Rick Scott? mspart

I hadn't heard that. Is this your opinion, or is this substantiated somewhere? I'm guessing it really wouldn't be that simple. Nick Saban would have a difficult time with that one I'm guessing. Income could be renegotiated so salary is lower but somehow other forms of remuneration could be employed. Those fatcats will find a way I suspect. mspart

Please share your suspicion. I read the white house file you linked. It was all old news. Somehow I think you don't really want to see this one through. mspart

When is the next recession coming? mspart

Pretty bad when the bill you sponsored and wrote is so bad you have to vote against it. That is quite the trick. mspart

So does anything need to happen to SS or Medicare to make it viable as the baby boomers retire? mspart

For me, I wish it still was the setup to the WTTs or final x now. That way everyone was there. mspart

Funny, now the honchos are saying it is safe to go back. How do you clean that stuff up? Why are the animals and fish dying? Why are people feeling crappy? To say the least there is some hesitancy in going back home for a lot of these folks. mspart

She would have looked better with the TW900's!!! mspart

I agree there needs to be some regulation. But once the regulation is set, that is when the regulators start thinking they need to regulate more stuff. So they go from an 8 gage wire needs a .1 inch thick insulation to an 8 gage wire needs 1 inch thick insulation because that is safer, and then they go to an 8 gage wire needs a 2 inch thick insulation that is purple to easily distinguish it from the 6 or the 10 gage wires and everyone knows 2 inch thick insulation is much much safer than 1 inch thick insulation. Then they think the 8 gage wire should be fluted on the ends which does nothing for safety and makes it harder to terminate but is easier to manufacture. And on and on and on and on. The original spec was safe and did what it needed to do. The rest is not necessary. Obviously this is a ludicrous example but you can see that there is a level at which the regulation makes sense and then where it starts to not make sense. Best to leave things where they make sense. mspart

I think Le duke just doesn't like anyone named Seymour. Or he is an anti-semite. Or he is just clueless and you just edumacated him. mspart

And this has what to do with my point? You made a stupid statement, I called you on it, and this is the response? Weak. mspart