uncle bernard

Guy 1: "If you agree with Hitler, say it" Guy 2: "Okay [I'll say it], *repeats core antisemitic myth of Nazism*... Elon: "I agree" Elon might not be a literal "Nazi" in the sense that he doesn't belong to the Nazi party, but he's pretty open about believing a core tenant of the Nazi's views on Jews. And guess what, if you believe "Jews" are pushing anti-white hate, you are also buying into a core myth of Nazism.

great segment on some of the lunatics driving israel’s internal politics.

Perfect excuse for them to start bombing all the civilians they sent to the south.

It is not disputed that Israel has been striking the hospital leading up to the raid. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/14/world/middleeast/israel-gaza-al-shifa-hospital.html As for your evidence: and this doesn’t even mention the “hamas laptop” they showed had a hebrew keyboard with an israeli soldier as the screensaver.

This is not up for debate. The hospital was bombed many times. Israel admits this. Their justification was it was a Hamas command center. They have yet to show evidence of that.

right over your head lol

zero self awareness from one of the guys who accuses anybody critical of Israel as a terrorist sympathizer

The only reason they don't is because they're afraid of losing the Western support they depend on entirely. Doing so would be genocide. Right now they can dance on the line and say they aren't and it keeps the pressure on their allies low enough to be tolerable. As @Plasmodium says, they're playing the long game for the land. Slowly seizing village after village in the West Bank, neighborhood after neighborhood in Jerusalem (they just took out a section of the Armenian quarter the last few days), and finally, slowly choking the life out of Gaza until the people leave, die, or fight back hard enough to justify total elimination in the eyes of the western world. The ridiculous thing about you guys pretending this isn't about ethnic cleansing is that Israeli's are pretty open about it. The Knesset is filled with people who call for ethnic cleansing. The IDF protects illegal settlers who commit acts of violence to seize land in the West Bank and Jerusalem. The political messaging by the Israeli government is totally different in Hebrew than their English propaganda for Western audiences.

The problem with this last line is the clowns on here think that's all a good thing. Spot on though.

Yeah, Hamas was definitely hiding its guns in the room with the giant magnet that would destroy them. If this is all they found, you should be ashamed. This is not a command center like they claimed when they broke international law to bomb it. The raid has been a total bust for the Israelis. Western medical workers have been screaming that this command center thing was a lie and nobody listened.

Gaza's economy is controlled by Israel. This is the dumbest criticism ever. Israel controls everything that legally flows into Gaza and greatly restricts it.

This isn't going to happen. That's the problem. Killing thousands of innocent civilians to kill a few Hamas fighters only strengthens Hamas' position. There is no indication that Israel is capable of eliminating Hamas. Nobody is arguing that Hamas is good. The best way to "eliminate" them is to undercut their reason for being. Show the Palestinians that a political, nonviolent solution is possible. Otherwise, we're going to keep doing this until the Israeli's kill all the Palestinians.

What's your ideal endpoint for this situation? Mine is for Palestinians and Israelis to share the land peacefully, like they've done in the past. Whether that's one state, two states, no states, I don't care. What do you want to happen?

I love hummus. Hamas, on the other hand, is bad and I've said so a million times.

Love to hide my guns behind the giant machine that would instantly destroy them if it were ever turned on. Come on lol

Yeah, there's a bunker under Al-Shifa. We know that because Israel built it in 1983. There is no evidence that it was being used a command center, hostages were held there, etc.... We'll see what the IDF tries to pass off as evidence. The fact they are refusing to show it right now should make you suspicious.

The raid on Al-Shifa has failed to produce evidence for Israel's claims of a Hamas command center located in the hospital. Maybe all the western medical workers who have worked there for years weren't lying when they said they've never seen Hamas?

informative interview with a former israeli peace negotiator. he lays out the political context around Hamas’ rise. notably the PA in the west bank struck a deal with israel and cooperated with security. in the time since, illegal settlements have exploded and the west bank quality of life deteriorates. israel punished the palestinians for cooperating and we’re surprised the people in gaza put their hopes in Hamas?

Israel strikes the home of one of Al-Shifa’s most vocal doctors.

people like @GreatWhiteNorth kept throwing a fit saying they weren’t doing this and then there’s you who just cheers it on. vile.

breathtakingly evil. we’re doing holocaust revisionism and nazi apologia to excuse israel bombing hospitals. seek god.