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What I don't get is letting minor league pretend wrestling / interpretive dance get in the way of real achievements.

Every cowboy cut I ever saw is sizable.

I think the PSU guys are aiming for US Open rather than Farrell. At least that is all Casey Cunningham mentioned in his pre-season email.

Its Vito for me too.

I just finished building a miter saw table. That is the best I can do.

good stuff

To come full circle we also need to look at the teams who have had success recruiting outside of The Big Board. These schools would have to be considered the raw materials champs. They get those lumps of carbon and turn them into diamonds. Cornell Reigns Supreme There is a reason Cornell has become a regular podium contender: 11 AA's from 6 wrestlers who did not make the Top 100 Big Board slots. Caveat: When dealing with name data things can get messy. Mapping Toms to Thomases and Zaches to Zacharyes is time consuming, manual, and very error prone. And weeding out the Ramon Bravo-Youngs from the Roman Bravo-Youngs or the Sorensons from the Sorensens is inexact at best. Add to that that you are looking for the absence of something and I expect that these numbers are very good approximations rather than according to Hoyle correct.

He was outperformed by Henderson AND McKenna. But he teched Rivera.

An the oath is a lie. Flo claims these are not predictions, but then to come up with their team rankings they treat their individual rankings as though they are predictions.

I have expounded on the un-serious way they set up the seeding points. Have all the tournaments in the most difficult to get to time zones for the western hemisphere. If they show, they have two choices: get there a week early, ala the world championships, to acclimate and optimize performance (and spend loads of money - see point 2); get there just in time, and feel like crap, and maybe get hurt. Have the points accumulate individually so that a deep country, like the US, will have to spend a crazy amount sending multiple wrestlers, but PR can just send the one that they know is their rep. Make it a perfect attendance award rather than merit, because attendance lines their pockets, not achievement.

Yes

Lee was 7th, not 8th. But not the 7th best wrestler there. See Repechage is French for Stupid.

Being in the US it would have to be at a catch weight for Micic, like 97. I kid. I kid.

Testify, Pat Milkovich.

Someone kinda did with the Yianni thread on intl.

This would have been a Zain Retherford thread a year ago. Perhaps @Antitroll2828 is a little premature on this take. And a little late (Yianni is having a hard time hearing you over his world silver).

Didn't @jross archive the old site? Perhaps he can tell.

I'm skeptical.

@Dark Energy asked "what about The Other Guys?" in the Big Board Big Boys thread. And he wasn't talking about Allen "Gator" Gamble and Terry "The Yankee Clipper" Hoitz. He was talking about the teams that do well recruiting outside of The Big Board Top 20. But before we get into that, a shout out to The Brain, @Husker_Du, for setting me up with a better, more complete, and higher quality, consistent data set for The BB. He was kind enough to fill in the blanks for me and replace the years Flo attempted to replicate his Brain, with his actual Brain. So now there are little bits of Willie all over these rankings. Read on if you dare. Breaking down The Big Board into groups of 20 and merging it with the AA data we get the following Kings of the Quintiles below the first quintile. Northwestern and Missouri have done the best mining the wrestlers ranked 21 - 100 (plus and honorable mention) with 14 AA's from those ranks over the past 10 recruiting classes (2013 - 2022). However, it has been a struggle to keep these guys, as Eierman, Rivera and Micic all transferred. The other teams with double digit AA success are Virginia Tech and NC State. As expected there are not a huge number of NCAA winners from these quintiles, but there aren't none. The deed has been done five times. Nino Bonaccorsi at #30, Max Dean at #74 and Ryan Deakin at #97 we know about. But there was also Darian Cruz (#37), and Seth Gross (#47).

Doesn't Rutgers leaving the EIWA for the Big Ten have something to do with that?

Ditto

This, right here. And this holds true internationally, not just domestically.

And somewhere, someone who knows nothing about wrestling, smiles contentedly, raises his drink to no one, and says "cheers".

That is pretty funny

And I mislabeled the table. Should say 2015-2022 as those are HS grad years.