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7 minutes ago, Gus said:

While common opponents do not paint a whole picture, they can/should be used as a metric for evaluating an athlete.

I'd lay a bet that common opponent, total points scored, bonus point rate are all bad metrics in determining the victor between two elite opponents that have never wrestled.  My fellow PSU fanatics made that same terrible mistake when I kept telling them Dake was going to beat Taylor.  I know points scored are "sexy" but they're too overvalued  

Just now, jchapman said:

I am not asking about Ferrari, we've seen how he's filled out 197.

Apologies.  Didn't claim you were.  Am getting ahead of the conversation about Brooks' size with the inevitable "is he big enough" when Ferrari himself is an undersized 197 pounder

3 hours ago, Gus said:

I think I would take Ferrari. Myles Amine is likely the only common opponent. 

Can never understand why people use a common opponent as a metric to predict an outcome in any sport.  Maybe a fun project for @Wrestleknownothing compile data and show us how inaccurate of a predictor it is

1 hour ago, nhs67 said:

I mean, shit... Dean was a short 197lber and he has a couple inches on Brooks.

They're the same height.

1 hour ago, jchapman said:

How tall is Brooks?  Wondering how he fills out 197.  Of course, his talent may overcome some of that.

He's around 5'10" maybe slightly under 5'11".  Also,  when did Aj Ferrari become a giant?  He's barely 6 feet tall

4 minutes ago, VakAttack said:

It doesn't mean anything.  Even that trial date is malleable, they get moved all the time.  Now, for the record, I don't practice in Oklahoma, obviously, but for example here in Florida, trial dates move in cycles.  We have Pre-Trial hearings that have an "assigned" Trial Term, so the court dockets show a case that is set for a April 19 pre-trial date and also set for trial on the next trial term in May.  However, especially post-COVID shutdowns with a big backlog of cases, the odds of a case actually going to trial that quickly after the Pre-Trial date would be astronomically low UNLESS the Defendant insisted and demanded his right to a speedy trial.  It's neutral, at least under Florida criminal practice.

It's noteworthy, though, that the docket seems to show that the trial was set by the Ferrari's request, so it's possible he intends to fight this all the way out...or he could be playacting trying to get a good deal.

Thanks again Vak.  This particular poster on BWI is also stating Ferrari set the request due to the prosecution liking the strength of their case & most likely offering a harsh plea deal. 

@VakAttackcan you set the record straight on an opinion posted on BWI pertaining to AJ's pretrial

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2 minutes ago, D3 for LU said:

Yes, it's sad. Quiet sad indeed.

(I was told to cut  down the sugar intake, but it's a tough go of it... )

D3

Is there a way out of the Cinnatrap? 

4 minutes ago, ionel said:

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Hide this from @AOCStallsLikeAMug He'll freak when he notices the horse in the checkered singlet is obviously stalling 

22 minutes ago, PSUSMC said:

I thought it was Shippensburg?

Kutztown 

20 minutes ago, AOCStallsLikeAMug said:

He’s a stall merchant and a Mickey Mouse champ. That’s my only issue 

Obviously in my line of work I know every Stall Merchant and I can assure you Austin O'Connor isn't involved with any distributor or manufacturer. 

I'm curious what @AOCStallsLikeAMugparticular beef with Austin O'Connor is all about

1 hour ago, Iowa said:

Annoying. If you don't like this person's threads then why not just skip over?

You new around here? This particular poster ain't just any person

1 minute ago, ionel said:

and where?

and why?

14 minutes ago, BlacknGold said:

2 of them have been charged with crimes.... You guys want Angelo to go to your school so you slander his brothers and tell him he should get away from his family? Who are any of you?? Are you his long lost uncle or something? If you want to trash the family, go ahead, but don't try to recruit Angelo while you're at it. You're either with them or against them and I'm sure Angelo would agree

Is your post a stolen transcript from the Jersey Shore?

On 4/14/2023 at 10:34 AM, Wrestleknownothing said:

I have seen the discussions here and on other boards about guys like Iowa's Ben Kueter and Koy Hopke possibly doing both.

How often does this actually happen at the D1 level? And with what degree of success?

I am aware of situations like Stephen Neal and Carlton Haselrig who did not play football in college, but went on to all-pro careers in the NFL. I am unaware of any who did both in college though. 

Is it more common in D2, D3, NAIA?

Finally, what is the lowest weight this has happened at?

Most recent I can think of that did both in college at the D1 level and had success was Antonio Garay and that was around 2000.  As for Ben Keuter, if he shows any promise  making the NFL I doubt we'll ever see him in a wrestling singlet.  A NFL contract is far too lucrative to spend your offseason participating in another sport.  

1 hour ago, Threadkilla said:

Because PSU continues to win. and the non PSU fans need an argument point.   I could be wrong but I seem to remember Brands, Kohl, Ryan and John Smith were in opposition as well.  

 

Why change a format that's been in place for 95 years.

Of course but it's more enjoyable getting them to admit it

1 hour ago, jammen said:

https://www.caelsanderson.com/blog/no-to-national-duals/

Site doesn't work. Again, I'm asking why Cael is the only coach that gets mentioned on this particular subject

13 hours ago, headshuck said:

That nobody even notices anymore.

Just curious.  Why is Cael the only one that ever gets mentioned about this subject.  If I recall correctly Tom Brands along with other coaches were with Cael on this matter.

@BobDole Hates Jessica Fletcher. 

30 minutes ago, Fletcher said:

And is this in reference to the poster named Bob Dole or the senator? 

They're the same person

@VakAttack one year deferred sentence, 18 months probation, & anger management for Anthony.  Is Anthony free to travel and attend school in Iowa or does he serve his probation in Oklahoma?  

https://news.yahoo.com/anthony-ferrari-gets-deferred-sentence-035900972.html

3 hours ago, Gus said:

Illinois is deeper than NY also. NY is in a tier of states with Iowa, Minnesota, Michigan, Wisconsin, Missouri, Indiana & Oklahoma.

There's something in the water in upstate NY because there's now two 4Xer's in the span of a decade

8 hours ago, ionel said:

Dake Cunningham is a good cowboy name 

17 hours ago, El Luchador said:

Well I disagree.  The styles were different and you draw way to much of a conclusion from what you view as being better.  The pace of the matches back then was much harsher and the stalemate calls kept the need to scramble to a minimum. There were also many more programs which also means a larger pool of talent. To say a Guy like John Smith couldn't wrestle with today's athletes is just foolish.  The collegiate style of Wrestling from the 80s and 90s produced much more international ready wrestlers than we are seeing today. I also think today's wrestlers are much more narrow in their skills set. Yesterday's wrestlers were more closely trained like international athletes than today's are. Today's wrestlers definitely have worse Par Terre offense and way worse par terre defense. Past wrestlers adapted their freestyle to Folkstyle and the opposite happens today. 

This post is wrong on so many levels.

1) the athletes today have better conditioning. 

2) John Smith's talents would not resonate today at an elite level

3) the wrestlers are more internationally ready today then at any other point in USA wrestling. Like so many posters on these boards. STOP rewriting history

4) today's wrestlers skills are more narrow? Are you serious? What ever drugs you are taking pleas dm, I'll send you my address because I want whatever you're taking

5) you're last few sentences on par terre are just wrong on every level. 

1 hour ago, CHROMEBIRD said:

Simple doesn't necessarily imply simplistic. As others have mentioned, Gable was tap into something and extract the most out of his wrestlers. You can also tell by the way he speaks that he thinks deeply about these things and put them into practice. I don't get that from Brands. He's a model Gable disciple and mimics what he's learned under DG but he has always come off more like a meathead than someone who spends time thinking through his coaching philsophy and style. That might help him relate to his guys, but that alone doesn't make him a good coach. As for PSU, I'm not convinced that Cael is on Gable's level as a coach, mostly because he doesn't say very much and it could be Cunningham doing the real work for all we know.

We'll just have to disagree on the Cael stuff.  I know people who have been in the practice room and everyone says the same thing.  What Cael is doing behind closed doors is unique and very different from every other program.  He's a genius as is Gable