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Just now, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Where is TBar?

I think once MSU committed to post on HR it broke Tbars heart and we'll never hear from him again 

Just now, BlacknGold said:

Tonight will be interesting

This is only a guess but I think it's between Iowa and Penn State

4 minutes ago, BlacknGold said:

Is it for certain that his decision is Iowa or is that rumors at this point?

Pat Mineo and Jimmy Cinnabon are the only two to make that claim.  Take it for what it's worth.  Have yet to see any reliable insiders make a claim or hint at where Nagao is going

4 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

Only you start a new thread when YOU already started a thread on the same topic. I wonder why you annoy people?

Any chance you can put together a spreadsheet showing the rate at which @Jimmy Cinnabon unnecessarily creates new threads to  regurgitate a topic already being discussed on another thread?  

On 4/21/2023 at 8:46 PM, MizzouFan01 said:

Disclaimer I have zero inside information regarding both the school and the club. However with Messinbrink now going to PSU along with the Marisolas, I feel we as Mizzou fans should be worried. While we have gotten several great wrestlers from AWA, with the recent PSU additions, what once was a great pipeline could/might be now opening to other schools. First and foremost I don’t blame any wrestler going to PSU, but it sure was nice, outside of UNI that we got most most of them. I don’t actually know if Smith was recruiting the twins, but we were in on Mitch while he was in the portal. I hope we were in the initial process before CBU but I don’t know. Just seem what once great chances we land the top AWA talent has diminished. I could be way off, but I damn sure  not as confident as I once was. 

I wouldn't be too concerned.  Just a few years back a lot of wrestlers from young guns (western PA)  went to Iowa but Cael was still able to snag Cenzo and Nolf.  Highly doubt Mizzou will miss out on all the talent

14 minutes ago, Jamie_Taco said:

I'm honestly not sure. We better defer to Captain Hindsight, @scourge165.

To be fair  Captain Hindsight has some valid points

Just now, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

PortaYianni

Ha! I like it. Sounds like a new age philosophy  to the 5th dimension 

2 hours ago, AgaveMaria said:

Also - how come Diakomihalis is called Yianni but was born John Michael Diakomihalis? Name Change? Mistake in the records?

Johnny is Yianni in Greek.  Like most languages on this planet Greek doesn't have a hard J 

@Jamie_Taco & @scourge165 any chance we can put this debate on pause for a moment and move on to weather predictions?  Now vs 1980s.  Is weather forecasting better today?  Debate!

48 minutes ago, Eagle26 said:

Well, at least the title of the thread still applies to what it has become…

We have an old fashion Tbar vs MSU back & forth banter going on right now.  

On 4/21/2023 at 5:13 PM, Mike Parrish said:

State College is not the easiest place to get to by air.

I wish we'd stop doing that.

Cheapest option might be flying into Harrisburg (hour 15mins) Pittsburg (2hr 45mins) or Philly (solid 3 hrs without traffic).  Flying into State College can get pricey.

3 minutes ago, Jamie_Taco said:

This man gets hit with the facts and instead of being an adult and admitting he was wrong, he makes a menstrual cycle joke. You're an assclown lol.

"I HaVe NoThInG aGaInSt IoWa AnD tHeIr PrOgRaM"

And like a woman on her period you wont stop arguing.  Enjoy your Sunday

1 minute ago, Jamie_Taco said:

No, your opinions just got debunked with the facts.

Listen. You're obviously on your menstrual cycle. We can go on forever and argue or I can be the man in this situation and realize we'll never see eye to eye and exit the conversation.  

4 minutes ago, Caveira said:

That argument simply means you can subjectively make up whatever you want and be right.   

Sure. Why not

Just now, MPhillips said:

I should pay less attention. Bob gives you fifteen minutes to say what you mean.

Sorry fellas. Carry on...

I lost interest.  

1 minute ago, MPhillips said:

 

Aren't you two saying the same thing here?

Taco had a Freudian slip but he edited

4 minutes ago, Caveira said:

So and so was top 10 because of the media’s failure is such a good argument.   I guess it’s all subjective after all.  

No its not all subjective.  Wrestling sports media today vs the 1980s has far greater tools to correctly rank HS wrestlers.  What a far fetched concept

22 minutes ago, Jamie_Taco said:

You're welcome. Are you now ready to admit that Gable and Iowa didn't stockpile the nation's top high school talent? Who's the one living with "fever pitch delusions" again?

No, because Gable did stockpile the nation's top high school recruits.  I'll make my points in hoping we'll come to a general agreement but I highly doubt it.

1)  In terms of Royce Alger not being a top ranked recruit it's a failure of the wrestling media at that time.  It's unfair to cast total blame on wrestling media  during that era due to them not having the resources that Flo, @Husker_Duetc benefit from in this modern era.  By any metric, a 3x Iowa state champ and JR national title winner is a top 10 recruit.  

2) You're conveniently omitting or do not know that for years Gable gave extra scholarships.  Above the allotted amount allowed by the NCAA's which led to him eventually being sanctioned.  To be fair, other Big 10 schools were also doing it but Iowa wrestling egregiously went over the allowed allotment which was proven in a report I will provide for you.  Yes, Gable was stockpiling wrestlers. https://web3.ncaa.org/lsdbi/search/miCaseView/report?id=101820  I dont blame Gable for doing this but he was gaming the system.  AND he stockpiled wrestlers

7 minutes ago, Jamie_Taco said:

You're right, the link isn't working now for some reason. Wrestling USA mag used Asics Boys teams (1986-today); prior to that, you will need to check Win's Dream Team which will go back to the 60s. This is the last piece of homework I am doing for you guys.

https://www.teamusa.org/USA-Wrestling/Features/2010/July/15/1986-ASICS-BOYS-TEAM

https://www.teamusa.org/USA-Wrestling/Features/2010/July/15/1987-ASICS-BOYS-TEAM

https://www.teamusa.org/USA-Wrestling/Features/2010/July/15/1988-ASICS-BOYS-TEAM

https://www.teamusa.org/USA-Wrestling/Features/2010/July/15/1989-ASICS-BOYS-TEAM

https://www.teamusa.org/USA-Wrestling/Features/2010/July/15/1990-ASICS-BOYS-TEAM

https://www.teamusa.org/USA-Wrestling/Features/2010/July/15/1991-ASICS-BOYS-TEAM

https://www.teamusa.org/USA-Wrestling/Features/2010/July/15/1992-ASICS-BOYS-TEAM

https://www.teamusa.org/USA-Wrestling/Features/2010/July/15/1993-ASICS-BOYS-TEAM

https://www.teamusa.org/USA-Wrestling/Features/2010/July/15/1994-ASICS-BOYS-TEAM

https://www.teamusa.org/USA-Wrestling/Features/2010/July/15/1995-ASICS-BOYS-TEAM

https://www.teamusa.org/USA-Wrestling/Features/2010/July/15/1996-ASICS-BOYS-TEAM

It's your homework when you're the one providing the info.  Anyways thanks for the links

Just now, MPhillips said:

I didn't want to say anything, but I checked as well. That info doesn't live there...

But @Jamie_Tacopromised 

3 minutes ago, ionel said:

Ok ... you try it on the odd hours and ill try it on the evens. 

Roger that

7 minutes ago, ionel said:

Don't see anything on that page listing top college recruit teams during the Gable era and all I got when trying any links was:

I think the two of us going on to the site at the same time made it crash

2 minutes ago, Jamie_Taco said:

I can't help with the fact that you are google incompetent lol.

You sent me a link with your "facts" and I can't find it. You can help me out or not.  Where on this link you provided can I find what you used to prove your point.  I'm not trolling.

Your provided source: https://www.wrestlingusa.com/high-school/records-and-rankings.html

3 minutes ago, Jamie_Taco said:

Lol the typo is the only thing you could come back with. I provided the facts, you provided the hindsight and opinions. 

https://www.wrestlingusa.com/high-school/records-and-rankings.html

Sooo, I cant find the link to where it shows the rankings during the Gable era?  

3 minutes ago, Jamie_Taco said:

Lol one of the best recruits in the country according to who, exactly? It was certainly not the rankings, as I've already proven to you.

The fact you think Iowa'a recruiting even comes close to comparable to what we are seeing today at PSU just shows how delusion you are.

Proper use in this case would be, "delusional"