PortaJohn Posted February 18 Posted February 18 Article linked below for those who want to read. -2 Year Ban -Can compete for 2028 Oly's https://www.flowrestling.org/articles/15452131-aaron-brooks-receives-two-year-ban-for-anti-doping-rules-violation I Don't Agree With What I Posted
bnwtwg Posted February 19 Posted February 19 (edited) Penn State lawyers have no shame they just keep cashing checks. Can't wait for more stupid jesus crap as an excuse. Just own the fact you got caught cheating. Twice. Edited February 19 by bnwtwg 1 i am an idiot on the internet
pawrestler Posted February 19 Posted February 19 Yikes 5.16 There is no question that Mr. Brooks was dramatically negligent, and cavalier, in his approach to his anti-doping obligations, especially as an elite NCAA wrestler and one who has won an Olympic medal in wrestling, and received, especially compared to many athletes, anti-doping education in spades. He took no steps to protect himself, simply deciding he wanted to purchase and take DHEA and doing so, without any care for whether it was on the Prohibited List or making any effort to determine the same until weeks later.
pawrestler Posted February 19 Posted February 19 More yikes 5.24 Mr. Brooks took none of these steps. He in fact did nothing to protect himself from consuming a prohibited substance. He simply determined he wanted to take a supplement, plainly marked on its label in large letters with the name of the operative ingredient, which was on the Prohibited List under the same name, and he took that supplement. This is plainly below the standard of any objective view of fault and there was insufficient evidence to show that he was impaired in any other way that would implicate a further analysis of the subjective factors in the Cilic analysis. 5.25 For the reasons discussed above, Respondent has failed to meet his burden of establishing, by a balance of probabilities, that his Fault or Negligence was not significant in relation to the ADRV. Code. 10.6.1.2. In fact, the opposite was true. He literally did nothing to protect himself from ingesting a prohibited substance
The Kid Posted February 19 Posted February 19 9 hours ago, bnwtwg said: Penn State lawyers have no shame they just keep cashing checks. Can't wait for more stupid jesus crap as an excuse. Just own the fact you got caught cheating. Twice. Jesus had nothing to do with Brooks' cheating. That's all on him and his savior Carl Sanderson.
Ragu Posted February 19 Posted February 19 12 minutes ago, The Kid said: Jesus had nothing to do with Brooks' cheating. That's all on him and his savior Carl Sanderson. But all glory to him when he wins. In all seriousness I’m glad he will be available for LA28 https://x.com/RaguWrestle
BAC Posted February 19 Posted February 19 This is a win for Brooks. USADA was arguing for a 4 year ban. Brooks argued for no more than 2 years, on the theory that it was unintentional. The arbitrator agreed with Brooks -- "just barely," he wrote. Essentially the arbitrator found Brooks credible (albeit colossally negligent) and that it wouldn't have made sense to dope in the off-season like that anyway. I think the arbitrator got it right.
Dark Energy Posted February 19 Posted February 19 Fair BAC. But I can see an argument that this sets a bad precedent. Complete negligence isn’t all that bad. Lower the penalties. Opens up more defense / explanation routes for liars. Not saying Brooks is a liar. I’m thinking about others across sports.
BAC Posted February 19 Posted February 19 12 hours ago, PortaJohn said: Article linked below for those who want to read. -2 Year Ban -Can compete for 2028 Oly's https://www.flowrestling.org/articles/15452131-aaron-brooks-receives-two-year-ban-for-anti-doping-rules-violation I would add that Brooks didn't "settle" with the USADA. It was the exact opposite: they both refused to settle, so the case was litigated to conclusion. Brooks "won," as the only question was the length of the penalty. Brooks had the herculean task of convincing an arbitrator that buying a supplement titled in huge letters "DHEA," when "DHEA" is right there on the banned substance list, wasn't intentional doping. I can see why the USADA didn't want to settle on those facts. Fortunately for Brooks, the arbitrator found him to be "very credible," which, on these facts, is basically like saying Brooks convinced him how colossally ignorant and stupid he is. A hollow victory, but a victory nonetheless. Bring on the Dake/Zahid/Carter/Brooks round-robin! 1
BAC Posted February 19 Posted February 19 6 minutes ago, Dark Energy said: Fair BAC. But I can see an argument that this sets a bad precedent. Complete negligence isn’t all that bad. Lower the penalties. Opens up more defense / explanation routes for liars. Not saying Brooks is a liar. I’m thinking about others across sports. I think it would have been a bad precedent if the USADA agreed to a 2 year penalty, solely on Brooks' say-so that he didn't know this plainly-marked product was on the banned list. But I don't think the ruling itself is bad precedent, as it turns largely on his assessment of Brooks' credibility, which is going to vary in every case. The circumstances will vary too, and here they strongly suggest he wasn't trying to gain a competitive advantage. And it SHOULD be the case that intentional dopers are punished more harshly than merely negligent one, even though both obviously should be punished. I don't know enough about DHEA to say if the penalties should be lowered, but Brooks fared about as well as he could under the rules that currently exist.
BAC Posted February 19 Posted February 19 18 minutes ago, Coastal said: Brooks will never make 86 again. It will be Snyder/Brooks for 97. Oh right, I forgot he said he's moving up. I wonder if Brooks can do RAF stuff? Or does the ban prohibit it?
The Kid Posted February 19 Posted February 19 2 hours ago, Coastal said: Brooks will never make 86 again. It will be Snyder/Brooks for 97. Buchanan may be the man. Hoagie too.
ScottishSteel Posted February 19 Posted February 19 Did anyone dip their toe in the PSU board? What's the vibe there in response to this news? Irrationally proud former WPIAL wrestler No Scotland, No Party . . . Go Beavs
Gene Mills Fan Posted February 19 Posted February 19 4 hours ago, Ragu said: But all glory to him when he wins. In all seriousness I’m glad he will be available for LA28 Why would you want our rep to be a two-time bad mistake maker? wouldn't the world put the asterisk on it?
Ragu Posted February 19 Posted February 19 4 minutes ago, Gene Mills Fan said: Why would you want our rep to be a two-time bad mistake maker? wouldn't the world put the asterisk on it? Who cares? I want our rep to be our best guy. https://x.com/RaguWrestle
ScottishSteel Posted February 19 Posted February 19 2 minutes ago, Coastal said: All seem to think it's pretty fair and good that he'll be back for the '28 cycle. Honestly more level headed than I expected Irrationally proud former WPIAL wrestler No Scotland, No Party . . . Go Beavs
Caveira Posted February 19 Posted February 19 5 hours ago, Ragu said: But all glory to him when he wins. In all seriousness I’m glad he will be available for LA28 People who cheat with drugs should be banned for life. Next man in line should be up
The Kid Posted February 19 Posted February 19 2 hours ago, Coastal said: Neither of those two stand much of a chance. Brooks big brothered Buchanan the last time they met and he's always had Hidlay's number. Snyder/Brooks would be one of the best domestic matches in ages. Hidlay should stay at 92, maybe boost his resume with a couple of world titles and go into coaching Time isn’t on Brooks' or Snyder's side. Hidlay will beat a clean Brooks imo.
The Kid Posted February 19 Posted February 19 1 hour ago, Caveira said: People who cheat with drugs should be banned for life. Next man in line should be up Absolutely
The Kid Posted February 19 Posted February 19 1 hour ago, Gene Mills Fan said: Why would you want our rep to be a two-time bad mistake maker? wouldn't the world put the asterisk on it? Brooks isn't making the team without ped's. His cheat code is over.
PortaJohn Posted February 19 Author Posted February 19 4 minutes ago, Coastal said: You do realize that Brooks is a year younger than Hidlay right? You're arguing with a Kid. I Don't Agree With What I Posted
Mr. PeanutButter Posted February 19 Posted February 19 1 hour ago, The Kid said: Time isn’t on Brooks' or Snyder's side. Hidlay will beat a clean Brooks imo. You think Brooks is going to be clean after this?? Do you also think Snyder is never going to fuck a hooker again?
The Kid Posted February 19 Posted February 19 1 hour ago, Coastal said: You do realize that Brooks is a year younger than Hidlay right? Yes. Hidlay is a late bloomer just hitting his stride. Brooks is washed up, ped using fool.
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