happyvalet Posted February 10 Posted February 10 2 minutes ago, MD152 said: Report card: Lockett= Defense 94% (A) Offense 76% (C+) Caliendo= Defense 94% (A) Offense 88% (B+) Blaze= Defense 92% (A) Offense 92% (A) I also don't see what you're seeing in Blazes offense except that he bonuses guys who won't qualify for nationals. Blaze couldn't score a takedown on Braeden Scoles... The only match Lockett failed to get a takedown was his first ever collegiate match and it was against Hunter Garvin Caliendo has better offense and the same defense as Lockett when Lockett beat him 2 takedowns to none?
MD152 Posted February 10 Posted February 10 "happyvalet" just my 2 cents not worth much! I do agree with your points of thought, Caliendo hopefully wrestles Lockett in a few so lets see how things go, got absolutely no issue if Lockett wins again 50/50, it just might be the other way around 2 takedowns to zero??? as for Blaze I just like how he found a way late to win 5-4 vs Kasak after being down 3-0 later in the match, that Offense came at a time (late in a match vs Kasak to goto Semi Finals of Nationals ) than rode him out to erase riding time....what I see in Blaze you dont, im cool with that......Im more of a grinder wrestler, Im willing to destroy or get destroyed, some wrestler preserve a little so as to not get caught in funky positions and get seriously injured, think of Nolf! Maybe Blaze and his approach is to be as healthy as possible at the end of the year? all the same your thoughts and points are legit, respect!
happyvalet Posted February 10 Posted February 10 36 minutes ago, MD152 said: "happyvalet" just my 2 cents not worth much! I do agree with your points of thought, Caliendo hopefully wrestles Lockett in a few so lets see how things go, got absolutely no issue if Lockett wins again 50/50, it just might be the other way around 2 takedowns to zero??? as for Blaze I just like how he found a way late to win 5-4 vs Kasak after being down 3-0 later in the match, that Offense came at a time (late in a match vs Kasak to goto Semi Finals of Nationals ) than rode him out to erase riding time....what I see in Blaze you dont, im cool with that......Im more of a grinder wrestler, Im willing to destroy or get destroyed, some wrestler preserve a little so as to not get caught in funky positions and get seriously injured, think of Nolf! Maybe Blaze and his approach is to be as healthy as possible at the end of the year? all the same your thoughts and points are legit, respect! Nothing against Blaze, I'm a big fan actually. I think he can beat anyone, including Mesenbrink. I just think people have gotten too down on Dee's offense.
bnwtwg Posted February 10 Posted February 10 No one at the NCAA level is beating Messenbrink. His only competition domestically is David Carr, and he even teched him last year. Maybe the young guns will eventually catch up to MM and Carr, but it's not happening anytime soon especially this year or next in folk. There are levels to this. i am an idiot on the internet
ionel Posted February 10 Posted February 10 1 minute ago, bnwtwg said: No one at the NCAA level is beating Messenbrink. This is true we will never see him lose an NCAA level match. .
MD152 Posted February 10 Posted February 10 27 minutes ago, bnwtwg said: No one at the NCAA level is beating Messenbrink. His only competition domestically is David Carr, and he even teched him last year. Maybe the young guns will eventually catch up to MM and Carr, but it's not happening anytime soon especially this year or next in folk. There are levels to this. Hooah!!!! (Heard, understood & acknowledge)
MD152 Posted February 10 Posted February 10 31 minutes ago, ionel said: This is true we will never see him lose an NCAA level match. Fully agree!
MPhillips Posted February 10 Posted February 10 42 minutes ago, ionel said: This is true we will never see him lose an NCAA level match. .
ionel Posted February 10 Posted February 10 23 minutes ago, MD152 said: Fully agree! He and Stevenson will both be able to claim having never lost as redshirt or full NCAA competition. Of course there's a couple posters on these here boards can claim the same, I just don't want to out them. .
Gus Posted February 10 Posted February 10 1 hour ago, bnwtwg said: No one at the NCAA level is beating Messenbrink. His only competition domestically is David Carr, and he even teched him last year. Maybe the young guns will eventually catch up to MM and Carr, but it's not happening anytime soon especially this year or next in folk. There are levels to this. Teched him and then lost two straight to him to make the world team just so we have the full picture.
Gus Posted February 10 Posted February 10 3 minutes ago, Coastal said: Mesenbrink losses to Carr are somewhat understandable when you look at what was surrounding him at the time with his mentor being near death. Mesenbrink just wasn't himself in those matches. It's possible. Or Carr is just really good and made some adjustments. Since the matches with Mesenbrink, Carr has looked really good with the highlight being his win over Aoyagi at the Zagreb. I expect the matches with MM and Carr to be very competitive moving forward.
bnwtwg Posted February 10 Posted February 10 1 hour ago, ionel said: This is true we will never see him lose an NCAA level match. You know I was referring to this year and next. You think it warms my heart to say something nice, especially after the JB match where he showed his true colors? Carr and Messenbrink are senior medal contenders and that is not changing anytime soon. I respect MM doesn't mean I'm going to root for him. i am an idiot on the internet
TheJimReaper Posted February 10 Posted February 10 4 hours ago, Antitroll2828 said: No. Lockett looked good at national duals but since then I watched him eek out wins against Shawn Taylor, go to OT with Araujo, eek out a win over Conway from Missouri, then need a late takedown and backs to beat Ryder Downey. He spends most the match on his knees or backing up and that strategy isn’t going to work come ncaas He’s been much more aggressive since the Downey match. He majored Connor Euton and nearly majored Matt Bianchi He didn’t eke out a win against Taylor he was firmly in control the whole time.
ionel Posted February 10 Posted February 10 50 minutes ago, bnwtwg said: Carr and Messenbrink are senior medal contenders and that is not changing anytime soon. Messenbrink will never make the senior team. .
bnwtwg Posted February 10 Posted February 10 23 minutes ago, ionel said: Messenbrink will never make the senior team. I also much prefer Carr but that's a very bold statement. i am an idiot on the internet
RawDog Posted February 10 Posted February 10 Isn't KOT going to enter the mix for a world team soon? I think Carr , MM and KOT are all going to have some epic battles for years to come. I'm also not sure Burroughs is done yet. Can never count out the Goat.
PortaJohn Posted February 10 Posted February 10 52 minutes ago, ionel said: Messenbrink will never make the senior team. 28 minutes ago, bnwtwg said: I also much prefer Carr but that's a very bold statement. Ionel is just messing with you I Don't Agree With What I Posted
Psalm 1 guy Posted February 10 Posted February 10 1 hour ago, ionel said: Messenbrink will never make the senior team. Here we go again : ) Messenbrink definitely won't, but Mesenbrink most assuredly will, IMHO.
Rassling Posted February 10 Posted February 10 7 minutes ago, Psalm 1 guy said: Here we go again : ) Messenbrink definitely won't, but Mesenbrink most assuredly will, IMHO. “two contrasting paths…” once again you chose the right one, P1
ionel Posted February 10 Posted February 10 26 minutes ago, Psalm 1 guy said: Here we go again : ) Messenbrink definitely won't, but Mesenbrink most assuredly will, IMHO. Now you're talking! .
bnwtwg Posted February 10 Posted February 10 1 hour ago, ionel said: Messenbrink will never make the senior team. 57 minutes ago, PortaJohn said: Ionel is just messing with you 34 minutes ago, Coastal said: He's just going off on the misssspeelling of Messenbrink instead of Mesenbrink. There's a dead horse in the corner. I will always call him by his dead name after what he did to Natalie's dog and the ears of all Pan Am competitors i am an idiot on the internet
PortaJohn Posted February 10 Posted February 10 2 minutes ago, bnwtwg said: I will always call him by his dead name after what he did to Natalie's dog and the ears of all Pan Am competitors Never forget I Don't Agree With What I Posted
ionel Posted February 10 Posted February 10 25 minutes ago, Coastal said: Just spell IoneI incorrectly. Use the lower case "L" and upper case "i" interchangeably. Hey I thought we had a gentleman's agreement on these here boards after the Stevenson fiasco that a NCAA champ deserved the respect of having his name spelled correctly. I haven't won any national title recently so spell my name however you want. .
bnwtwg Posted February 10 Posted February 10 1 minute ago, ionel said: Hey I thought we had a gentleman's agreement on these here boards after the Stevenson fiasco that a NCAA champ deserved the respect of having his name spelled correctly. I haven't won any national title recently so spell my name however you want. Surely you are aware that agreement is null and void when it involves PSU or Iowa i am an idiot on the internet
ionel Posted February 10 Posted February 10 2 minutes ago, bnwtwg said: Surely you are aware that agreement is null and void when it involves PSU, Iowa or Jimmy. ftfy .
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