mksioszk2 Posted January 21 Posted January 21 Below is a list of the total AA's by Team since 2000. Was a fun little project I threw together. Some interesting facts: Boise State (RIP) leads all the dropped teams in AA's (23) Hofstra and Central Michigan had some great runs in the early to mid 2000's Browns last AA was in 2014, Buffalo in 2004, F&M in 2014, Sacred Heart in 2007 and SIUE in 2017. Of the teams that have not had an AA since 2000, 2 have been dropped (Cal Baptist and Clev. State) Team Total All Americans Iowa 133 Penn State 119 Oklahoma State 117 Minnesota 113 Ohio State 84 Cornell 83 Michigan 82 Nebraska 82 Missouri 70 Iowa State 67 Illinois 58 Lehigh 57 Virginia Tech 53 Arizona State 51 Oklahoma 51 Wisconsin 48 Northwestern 37 Edinboro 34 Central Michigan 33 Northern Iowa 32 NC State 31 Stanford 25 Indiana 23 Oregon State 23 Boise State 23 Hofstra 22 Penn 22 North Carolina 21 Pittsburgh 20 Michigan State 19 Cal Poly 18 Rutgers 18 American 17 West Virginia 17 Harvard 16 Purdue 16 Virginia 16 Wyoming 16 Maryland 15 Navy 14 South Dakota State 13 Kent State 12 Lock Haven 12 Princeton 12 Ohio 11 Rider 11 Old Dominion 10 CSU Bakersfield 9 Clarion 8 Duke 8 Appalachian State 7 North Dakota State 7 Northern Illinois 7 Air Force 6 Army 6 Fresno State 6 Binghamton 5 Bucknell 5 UT Chattanooga 5 Utah Valley 5 Oregon 5 The Citadel 4 Columbia 4 Little Rock 4 Northern Colorado 4 Bloomsburg 3 Campbell 2 Drexel 2 CSU Fullerton 2 Brown 1 Buffalo 1 Franklin & Marshall 1 Sacred Heart 1 SIUE 1 Eastern Michigan 1 UC Davis 1 James Madison 1 Boston College 1 Bellarmine - Cal Baptist - Cleveland State - Davidson - Gardner-Webb - George Mason - Long Island - Morgan State - Presbyterian - VMI -
Ragu Posted January 21 Posted January 21 Just because I am from there, Syracuse University last had an all-American in 1998 https://x.com/RaguWrestle
Gene Mills Fan Posted January 21 Posted January 21 11 minutes ago, Ragu said: Just because I am from there, Syracuse University last had an all-American in 1998 Homie!!
Ragu Posted January 21 Posted January 21 1 hour ago, Gene Mills Fan said: Homie!! Go Orange https://x.com/RaguWrestle
MizzouFan01 Posted January 21 Posted January 21 (edited) Of the 70 AAs for Mizzou, 7% have be been NC. Cox-3, Askren/KOT-2, Ellis/Max Askren/Houdashelt-1. Edited January 21 by MizzouFan01
BigRedFan Posted January 21 Posted January 21 3 minutes ago, MizzouFan01 said: Of the 70 AAs for Mizzou 12.85 or 13% have been NC. Cox-3, Askren/KOT-2, Ellis/Max Askren-1. Statistically middle of the pack ish I’d guess. Interesting. Of Cornell's 83, 22.8% (19) have been champions. Dake/Yianni-4, Lee/Vito/Dean-2, Bozak/Garrett/Leen/Nickerson/Simaz-1 each. Ohio State has 16 NCs out of 84 (19%). Michigan has 7 out of 82 (8%: yikes!). Nebraska with 5 out of 82 (6%). No idea what that means, but Missouri is likely very high up in percentage of AAs that were champions.
MizzouFan01 Posted January 22 Posted January 22 1 hour ago, BigRedFan said: Interesting. Of Cornell's 83, 22.8% (19) have been champions. Dake/Yianni-4, Lee/Vito/Dean-2, Bozak/Garrett/Leen/Nickerson/Simaz-1 each. Ohio State has 16 NCs out of 84 (19%). Michigan has 7 out of 82 (8%: yikes!). Nebraska with 5 out of 82 (6%). No idea what that means, but Missouri is likely very high up in percentage of AAs that were champions. You caught it before I edited the post. It’s actually 7%. Which isn’t great. I also forgot about Drake Houdashelt being a NC.
fishbane Posted January 22 Posted January 22 11 minutes ago, MizzouFan01 said: You caught it before I edited the post. It’s actually 7%. Which isn’t great. I also forgot about Drake Houdashelt being a NC. Isn't that 10 national champs (3 JC+2 BA + 2 KO + 1 ME + 1 DH + 1 MA = 10) out of 70 AA? That's not 7%. It's 14.3%
Wrestle bear Posted January 22 Posted January 22 4 hours ago, mksioszk2 said: Below is a list of the total AA's by Team since 2000. Was a fun little project I threw together. Some interesting facts: Boise State (RIP) leads all the dropped teams in AA's (23) Hofstra and Central Michigan had some great runs in the early to mid 2000's Browns last AA was in 2014, Buffalo in 2004, F&M in 2014, Sacred Heart in 2007 and SIUE in 2017. Of the teams that have not had an AA since 2000, 2 have been dropped (Cal Baptist and Clev. State) Team Total All Americans Iowa 133 Penn State 119 Oklahoma State 117 Minnesota 113 Ohio State 84 Cornell 83 Michigan 82 Nebraska 82 Missouri 70 Iowa State 67 Illinois 58 Lehigh 57 Virginia Tech 53 Arizona State 51 Oklahoma 51 Wisconsin 48 Northwestern 37 Edinboro 34 Central Michigan 33 Northern Iowa 32 NC State 31 Stanford 25 Indiana 23 Oregon State 23 Boise State 23 Hofstra 22 Penn 22 North Carolina 21 Pittsburgh 20 Michigan State 19 Cal Poly 18 Rutgers 18 American 17 West Virginia 17 Harvard 16 Purdue 16 Virginia 16 Wyoming 16 Maryland 15 Navy 14 South Dakota State 13 Kent State 12 Lock Haven 12 Princeton 12 Ohio 11 Rider 11 Old Dominion 10 CSU Bakersfield 9 Clarion 8 Duke 8 Appalachian State 7 North Dakota State 7 Northern Illinois 7 Air Force 6 Army 6 Fresno State 6 Binghamton 5 Bucknell 5 UT Chattanooga 5 Utah Valley 5 Oregon 5 The Citadel 4 Columbia 4 Little Rock 4 Northern Colorado 4 Bloomsburg 3 Campbell 2 Drexel 2 CSU Fullerton 2 Brown 1 Buffalo 1 Franklin & Marshall 1 Sacred Heart 1 SIUE 1 Eastern Michigan 1 UC Davis 1 James Madison 1 Boston College 1 Bellarmine - Cal Baptist - Cleveland State - Davidson - Gardner-Webb - George Mason - Long Island - Morgan State - Presbyterian - VMI - See prime example why Iowa needs to keep Tom brands.
fishbane Posted January 22 Posted January 22 1 hour ago, Wrestle bear said: See prime example why Iowa needs to keep Tom brands. I come up with 98 AAs for Brands not including 2020 AAs. Only three teams in mksioszk2’s list have more. Iowa 133, PSU 119, OSU 117, and MN 113. Brands averaged 5.44 AAs per season which is more than any team and more than his predecessor Zalesky 4.86. I come up with 132 total AAs 200-2025 inclusive for Iowa with 98 under Brands and 34 under Zalesky. This is one less than mksioszk2. I do not know where the discrepancy lies.
mksioszk2 Posted January 22 Author Posted January 22 10 hours ago, fishbane said: I come up with 98 AAs for Brands not including 2020 AAs. Only three teams in mksioszk2’s list have more. Iowa 133, PSU 119, OSU 117, and MN 113. Brands averaged 5.44 AAs per season which is more than any team and more than his predecessor Zalesky 4.86. I come up with 132 total AAs 200-2025 inclusive for Iowa with 98 under Brands and 34 under Zalesky. This is one less than mksioszk2. I do not know where the discrepancy lies. Certainly could be an error in the formula I used. I do total 80 AA's for each of the seasons since 2000 but I may have auto filled Iowa with Iowa State or something of that nature. Since Cael took over in 2010 Penn State has 96 all americans which is 80.6% of their total AA's since 2000 and in that same time Iowa has 84 by my count.
fishbane Posted January 22 Posted January 22 4 minutes ago, mksioszk2 said: Certainly could be an error in the formula I used. I do total 80 AA's for each of the seasons since 2000 but I may have auto filled Iowa with Iowa State or something of that nature. Since Cael took over in 2010 Penn State has 96 all americans which is 80.6% of their total AA's since 2000 and in that same time Iowa has 84 by my count. I added up the number from the AA page in the Iowa Wrestling media guide, but could have made a mistake. Or it’s possible there is an error in the guide. Brands also had 2 AAs at Virginia Tech making his total as a head coach 2005-2025 inclusive an even 100 by my count. Sanderson had 15 at ISU. This makes his total 2007-2025 inclusive 111. That’s 11 more in two fewer NCAA tournaments, but those were also the two years Brands was at VT. It’s 13 more from 2007-2025.
mksioszk2 Posted January 22 Author Posted January 22 I will maintain that Boise St being cut for a failed pet project of a baseball team is the greatest travesty in my almost 30 years on this earth. Despite not having a team for almost 10 years they still have more AA's since 2000 than good teams like Pitt, Rutgers, Wyoming, SDSU, West Virginia, and Purdue. I will never forgive Bob Kustra for what he did
Maxwell Smart Posted January 22 Posted January 22 Using this info as one of the reasons to keep Tom as head coach is gaslighting.
fishbane Posted January 22 Posted January 22 1 hour ago, mksioszk2 said: I will maintain that Boise St being cut for a failed pet project of a baseball team is the greatest travesty in my almost 30 years on this earth. Despite not having a team for almost 10 years they still have more AA's since 2000 than good teams like Pitt, Rutgers, Wyoming, SDSU, West Virginia, and Purdue. I will never forgive Bob Kustra for what he did On the other side of the spectrum would you say that JMU cutting wrestling (and some other sports) to schift resources and focus to football was a huge win for the school? They won an FCS championship, moved up to D1, and this year made the FBS playoff.
Pinnacle Posted January 22 Posted January 22 10 minutes ago, fishbane said: On the other side of the spectrum would you say that JMU cutting wrestling (and some other sports) to schift resources and focus to football was a huge win for the school? They won an FCS championship, moved up to D1, and this year made the FBS playoff. And their coach took over at perennial doormat Indiana and won the NCAA Championship in year 2. Fairly incredible accomplishment.
11986 Posted January 22 Posted January 22 16 minutes ago, fishbane said: On the other side of the spectrum would you say that JMU cutting wrestling (and some other sports) to schift resources and focus to football was a huge win for the school? They won an FCS championship, moved up to D1, and this year made the FBS playoff. hard one for me as a JMU alum. thrilled with the success of the football team, but wrestling getting cut still stings.
mksioszk2 Posted January 22 Author Posted January 22 12 minutes ago, fishbane said: On the other side of the spectrum would you say that JMU cutting wrestling (and some other sports) to schift resources and focus to football was a huge win for the school? They won an FCS championship, moved up to D1, and this year made the FBS playoff. From the schools perspective I would think they would call it a win. As a wrestling fan I don't like seeing any programs get cut. It's a double-edge sword really, on one hand wrestling programs are generally pretty cheap to run but on the other hand they don't generate any revenue compared to football and basketball. I think that's why Willie beats the drum of endow your program so much so you don't end up in the situation of a Boise State or Old Dominion. Even if you're at a big P4 institution like a Penn State, Iowa, Oklahoma State I don't know why you wouldn't make it a priority to do that. Obviously there's other factors now with NIL, more scholarships and roster management.
The Kid Posted January 22 Posted January 22 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Coastal said: Quite a few went MMA and a some became DI coaches, Clemsen, Robie, Roselli, Shifflet... It's so sad what that program has become. https://gofightingscots.com/sports/2012/6/28/wrest_champions.aspx?id=17 Unbelievable talent development during their heyday era. Edited January 22 by The Kid
mr.nonothingatall Posted January 22 Posted January 22 2 hours ago, Maxwell Smart said: Using this info as one of the reasons to keep Tom as head coach is gaslighting. Agreed. I put down my pitchfork this week. I'm hoping, after 3 years of sitting in front of a camera telling everyone that "we gotta shoot!" Tom and Terry have somehow made a miracle happen in the last week, and learned how to get every individual wrestler ready for Nebraska. However if they get no offense going against the huskers. I'm picking the pitch fork back up Full of un-bias blasphemy.
The Kid Posted January 22 Posted January 22 31 minutes ago, Coastal said: It's a effing shame that the school's own website stops listing All-Americans in 2012. Mitchell Port and AJ Schopp were both three time All-Americans since then with Sean Russell their last AA in 2017. Port beat Retherford at ncaa's that year.
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