1032004 Posted January 6 Posted January 6 https://www.kcci.com/article/midwest-wrestle-youtube-nima-gharavi-allyson-schwab-lawsuit/69918172
fishbane Posted January 6 Posted January 6 I don't think this is new. The lawsuit was filed a while ago and this forum and Flyingcement made an appearance in the litigation. https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/illinois/ilndce/1:2024cv01969/456255/80/
SNL Wrestling Posted January 6 Posted January 6 I was subpoenaed for things I said on an alternate account. Just got it the other day. 11.5k Followers on X: https://x.com/WrestlingSNL 15.5k+ Followers on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wrestling.snl/
fishbane Posted January 6 Posted January 6 This is the original thread. https://intermatwrestle.com/forums/topic/3230-creeps-in-the-wrestling-community-what-can-we-do-about-it/
El Luchador Posted January 6 Posted January 6 I don't think a lawsuit on this issue puts you on the moral high ground. The Internet is the greatest and worst thing ever.
El Luchador Posted January 6 Posted January 6 Ok I just visited his YouTube page. He has some very questionable thumbnails. I myself am quite disturbed. I expected to see regular wrestling stuff that some people with questionable values maybe hijacked for their odd gratification, but I personally see his choices of Thumbnails quite inviting for someone with those motives.
jchapman Posted January 6 Posted January 6 Any lawyers want to weigh in? This might be a case where Schwab was right, but not in a legal sense. Craig Henning got screwed in the 2007 NCAA Finals.
fishbane Posted January 6 Posted January 6 31 minutes ago, El Luchador said: Ok I just visited his YouTube page. He has some very questionable thumbnails. I myself am quite disturbed. I expected to see regular wrestling stuff that some people with questionable values maybe hijacked for their odd gratification, but I personally see his choices of Thumbnails quite inviting for someone with those motives. Expressing opinions like that might get you referred to as John Doe #26 on the next defamation lawsuit.
JimmyCinnabon Posted January 6 Posted January 6 2 hours ago, El Luchador said: I don't think a lawsuit on this issue puts you on the moral high ground. The Internet is the greatest and worst thing ever. It's just the worst.
JimmyCinnabon Posted January 6 Posted January 6 3 minutes ago, fishbane said: Expressing opinions like that might get you referred to as John Doe #26 on the next defamation lawsuit. They can try to subpoena me, but they might end up with the wrong Jimmy!
El Luchador Posted January 6 Posted January 6 Just now, fishbane said: Expressing opinions like that might get you referred to as John Doe #26 on the next defamation lawsuit. I thought about that, I chose my words carefully, hopefully careful enough. But my opinion about his content is just that,an opinion and I'm not calling for any action against him. I'll just leave this here for others to come to their own conclusions.
El Luchador Posted January 6 Posted January 6 I just think if you know your work is being exploited by others these are poor choices for thumbnails.
El Luchador Posted January 6 Posted January 6 To give him some credit, his video quality is next level.
fishbane Posted January 6 Posted January 6 11 minutes ago, El Luchador said: To give him some credit, his video quality is next level. Sure his camera is nice, but I think he films with the wrong zoom setting. The field of view can barely capture the entirety of both wrestlers when they are in the center shaking hands at the start of the match. When there is action often one wrestler completely leaves the frame as he either can't keep up or the FOV is too narrow to capture both wrestlers. 21 minutes ago, El Luchador said: I just think if you know your work is being exploited by others these are poor choices for thumbnails. You should sort by view count and check out the thumbnails. Check out what is driving traffic to his channel...
El Luchador Posted January 6 Posted January 6 Just now, fishbane said: Sure his camera is nice, but I think he films with the wrong zoom setting. The field of view can barely capture the entirety of both wrestlers when they are in the center shaking hands at the start of the match. When there is action often one wrestler completely leaves the frame as he either can't keep up or the FOV is too narrow to capture both wrestlers. You should sort by view count and check out the thumbnails. Check out what is driving traffic to his channel... I'll try that. The first thing I noticed is his engagement is super low for his number of views. 5 comments on a video with 20k views is strange.
El Luchador Posted January 6 Posted January 6 Here is what shows up as his most popular video. Nothing about the thumbnail in my opinion is questionable.
El Luchador Posted January 6 Posted January 6 Here is the actual link to the video. I don't see a video worthy of 1.2 million views. The wrestling is low caliber and nothing about it is improper. It has 1.2 million views and 28 comments.
fishbane Posted January 6 Posted January 6 (edited) 7 minutes ago, El Luchador said: Here is the actual link to the video. I don't see a video worthy of 1.2 million views. The wrestling is low caliber and nothing about it is improper. It has 1.2 million views and 28 comments. That is his other channel. The top video on his main channel is from the 2021 Nuway Winter Throne Duals and has 6.2M views. Many thumbnails of his most viewed videos are like that one. This is the channel I am looking at - https://www.youtube.com/@MidwestWrestle/videos Edited January 6 by fishbane
Truzzcat Posted January 6 Posted January 6 The fact that is dude has the balls to sue people for calling him out for being gross is absolutely insane to me. I am the personal property of VakAttack
fishbane Posted January 6 Posted January 6 1 minute ago, Truzzcat said: The fact that is dude has the balls to sue people for calling him out for being gross is absolutely insane to me. Get ready for insanity John Doe #27!
Gene Mills Fan Posted January 6 Posted January 6 50 minutes ago, El Luchador said: To give him some credit, his video quality is next level. I think this ^ Maybe a blur filter needed. As there is 'intrinsic' ... toe and package exposure that does NOT deserve this attention. Some would replace intrinsic with 'personal', and I would not disagree. Is there this motive??? That would be gross.
1032004 Posted January 6 Author Posted January 6 5 hours ago, fishbane said: I don't think this is new. The lawsuit was filed a while ago and this forum and Flyingcement made an appearance in the litigation. https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/illinois/ilndce/1:2024cv01969/456255/80/ So basically Flo got themselves removed but the rest moves on?
El Luchador Posted January 6 Posted January 6 (edited) 20 minutes ago, fishbane said: That is his other channel. The top video on his main channel is from the 2021 Nuway Winter Throne Duals and has 6.2M views. Many thumbnails of his most viewed videos are like that one. This is the channel I am looking at - https://www.youtube.com/@MidwestWrestle/videos No correlation that I'm seeing related to questionable Thumbnails and view count. There certainly are thumbnails that would invite views from persons of questionable motivation and that we typically do not want associated with our sport but I'm not seeing an obvious link to views and questionable content. I am confused by the high view count, and quality of wrestling in those videos. That combined with disproportionately low viewer engagement is odd to me. Edited January 6 by El Luchador
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