National duals results

[cangemi]

18 minutes ago, Idaho said:

I may be in the minority here....but this event has been awesome without PSU and....maybe it's better they are not here. After all, everyone got better without them... 

Agreed more exciting with out them. More fun. There too good.

[Caveira]

2 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

Dogging =/= dodging...

It’s some double standard to bad mouth people who had the balls to show up.  To weigh in multiple times.   To put it on the line when it mattered.   To compete when it mattered.  
 

It’s another thing for psu to just not show up lol.   Pretty hypocritical. 
 

if the team you support doesn’t show…..  you don’t have the right to criticize other teams for making choices when the dual is already wrapped up.   You don’t get to say what “fans” want or need to see when your team is drilling in the basement and thumbing your nose at the national duals.    Ducking the second biggest event of the entire year.   

[Kov88]

47 minutes ago, Idaho said:

I may be in the minority here....but this event has been awesome without PSU and....maybe it's better they are not here. After all, everyone got better without them... 

couldn’t agree more

[nhs67]

22 minutes ago, Caveira said:

It’s some double standard to bad mouth people who had the balls to show up.  To weigh in multiple times.   To put it on the line when it mattered.   To compete when it mattered.  
 

It’s another thing for psu to just not show up lol.   Pretty hypocritical. 
 

if the team you support doesn’t show…..  you don’t have the right to criticize other teams for making choices when the dual is already wrapped up.   You don’t get to say what “fans” want or need to see when your team is drilling in the basement and thumbing your nose at the national duals.    Ducking the second biggest event of the entire year.   

You're wrong.  It is okay for you to be wrong.  It really isn't okay for you to get this emotional about it on a BBS.  Breath, calm down, and take a drink of Captain (or whatever else tickles your fancy).

It isn't a matter of opinion that Penn State did not have to attend.  If they had to, they would have - and would have easily won.

Show me where a single PSU fan in these boards is dogging on the guys who showed up?  I have seen more ISU and Rutgers fans dogging on the guys that did show up than anything.

I also must clarify that dogging =/= dodging.  You clearly missed that earlier.  I know that's the emotions, though.  Sometimes when I am having a temper tantrum I also don't read good.

[nhs67]

49 minutes ago, Idaho said:

I may be in the minority here....but this event has been awesome without PSU and....maybe it's better they are not here. After all, everyone got better without them... 

You aren't the minority.

Paniro Johnson, @Caveira, and all of Minnow's Rutger fanbase are the only ones who don't think it has been awesome without Penn State.

[nhs67]

30 minutes ago, Caveira said:

if the team you support doesn’t show…..  you don’t have the right to criticize other teams for making choices when the dual is already wrapped up.   You don’t get to say what “fans” want or need to see when your team is drilling in the basement and thumbing your nose at the national duals.    Ducking the second biggest event of the entire year.   

I didn't address this part.

You're wrong here, too.

Manning, Taylor, Brands, and Ryan all had a call/interview/podcast where they all said they would not be dodging (dodging =/= dogging) anybody and would be wrestling back in-full.  When you go back in that, it is the definition of hypocrisy.

The actual definition of hypocrisy is not a matter of opinion.  You don’t get to decide what it means.  Just like I don't have a say in the matter - Manning spoke hypocritically.

[MPhillips]

3 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

You aren't the minority.

Paniro Johnson, @Caveira, and all of Minnow's Rutger fanbase are the only ones who don't think it has been awesome without Penn State.

[Pinnacle]

It has actually been a good event that this old PA boy has enjoyed. Not sure why all the PSU hate.

[Caveira]

19 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

You aren't the minority.

Paniro Johnson, @Caveira, and all of Minnow's Rutger fanbase are the only ones who don't think it has been awesome without Penn State.

I never  said the event wasn’t awesome.  It was awesome.   I said psu ducked  the event after you started calling out others for ducking 

 

the event can be awesome AND psu could have ducked it at the same time.   Only a psu fan would equate it to anything else 

Edited November 16, 2025 by Caveira

[flyingcement]

Finals predictions:

125: Dean Peterson dec Brendan McCrone 3-0
133: Ben Davino dec Drake Ayala  3-3
141: Jesse Mendez dec Nassir Bailey 3-6
149: Ethan Stiles dec Ryder Block 3-9
157: Brandon Cannon dec Jordan Williams 3-12
165: Mikey Caliendo dec Paddy Gallagher 6-12
174: Carson Kharchla dec Patrick Kennedy 6-15
184: Angelo Ferrari dec Dylan Fishback 9-15
197: Massoma Endene dec Seth Shumate 12-15
285: Nick Feldman dec Gage Marty 12-18 Buckeyes

[Pinnacle]

Looking at those match ups it appears 133 is a must win for Iowa.

[Jayd]

23 minutes ago, flyingcement said:

Finals predictions:

125: Dean Peterson dec Brendan McCrone 3-0
133: Ben Davino dec Drake Ayala  3-3
141: Jesse Mendez dec Nassir Bailey 3-6
149: Ethan Stiles dec Ryder Block 3-9
157: Brandon Cannon dec Jordan Williams 3-12
165: Mikey Caliendo dec Paddy Gallagher 6-12
174: Carson Kharchla dec Patrick Kennedy 6-15
184: Angelo Ferrari dec Dylan Fishback 9-15
197: Massoma Endene dec Seth Shumate 12-15
285: Nick Feldman dec Gage Marty 12-18 Buckeyes

I'm wondering if we see Bouzakis..

[pawrestler]

1 minute ago, Jayd said:

I'm wondering if we see Bouzakis..

Ditto

[Truzzcat]

27 minutes ago, flyingcement said:

Finals predictions:

125: Dean Peterson dec Brendan McCrone 3-0
133: Ben Davino dec Drake Ayala  3-3
141: Jesse Mendez dec Nassir Bailey 3-6
149: Ethan Stiles dec Ryder Block 3-9
157: Brandon Cannon dec Jordan Williams 3-12
165: Mikey Caliendo dec Paddy Gallagher 6-12
174: Carson Kharchla dec Patrick Kennedy 6-15
184: Angelo Ferrari dec Dylan Fishback 9-15
197: Massoma Endene dec Seth Shumate 12-15
285: Nick Feldman dec Gage Marty 12-18 Buckeyes

Gonna go block over stiles, Bouzakis over peterson and I think Cannon and Mendez push for Majors.

[nhs67]

1 hour ago, Caveira said:

I never  said the event wasn’t awesome.  It was awesome.   I said psu ducked  the event after you started calling out others for ducking 

 

the event can be awesome AND psu could have ducked it at the same time.   Only a psu fan would equate it to anything else 

You still don't read good.

I am not going to make it simpler for you.  At some point I have to accept that is simply a you thing.

[Kov88]

27 minutes ago, Jayd said:

I'm wondering if we see Bouzakis..

I’d like to see Bouzakis in this spot over McCrone

[Pipewrench]

6pm start?

[Caveira]

9 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

You still don't read good.

I am not going to make it simpler for you.  At some point I have to accept that is simply a you thing.

Only psu fans think psu didn’t duck the event.   The event was great.  

plenty of Hate against psu  out there for ducking 
 

tom Ryan 

Johnny d 

 

 

 

[Kov88]

1 hour ago, flyingcement said:

Finals predictions:

125: Dean Peterson dec Brendan McCrone 3-0
133: Ben Davino dec Drake Ayala  3-3
141: Jesse Mendez dec Nassir Bailey 3-6
149: Ethan Stiles dec Ryder Block 3-9
157: Brandon Cannon dec Jordan Williams 3-12
165: Mikey Caliendo dec Paddy Gallagher 6-12
174: Carson Kharchla dec Patrick Kennedy 6-15
184: Angelo Ferrari dec Dylan Fishback 9-15
197: Massoma Endene dec Seth Shumate 12-15
285: Nick Feldman dec Gage Marty 12-18 Buckeyes

This would tie how many points they’ve given up the whole tournament…. I believe they’ve only gave up 12 points combined in the three duals

[wrestlingfan22]

49 minutes ago, Truzzcat said:

Gonna go block over stiles, Bouzakis over peterson and I think Cannon and Mendez push for Majors.

I think Caliendo pushes for bonus also

[Dark Energy]

Vega majored Brock Hardy!!! Damn!!!

[Jamie_Taco]

Carl cares about one thing.. Carl. That shouldn’t be a revelation to anyone.

[forkemaz]

Was complaining about the platform switch for the finals and my sister has hulu with espn2. We back baby! Dont have to miss the finals over paying for a seperate platform. 

[Caveira]

What’s gonna happen to this volleyball game on espn 2 ?    Seems like it won’t be over in time 

[forkemaz]

Supposedly duels start on espnnews