Crap Country: U.S. 46th In Life Expectancy

[jross]

16 minutes ago, red viking said:

You want less spending but don't want to cut any of the truly big programs like ss, military or Medicare. You actually want those to go up every year. Your math is garbage. 

I want SS eliminated in its current format; draw a line for a certain age group and go.  

I want the military spending reduced.

I want efficiency and effectiveness increased in medicare.  I don't know about cutting the budget but I definitely want the waste reduced.  If it gets the deficit reduced... yea cut a percentage of spending.

[red viking]

1 hour ago, jross said:

I want SS eliminated in its current format; draw a line for a certain age group and go.  

I want the military spending reduced.

I want efficiency and effectiveness increased in medicare.  I don't know about cutting the budget but I definitely want the waste reduced.  If it gets the deficit reduced... yea cut a percentage of spending.

Thats good. Very few wingers support that though. 

Edited 10 hours ago by red viking

[Scouts Honor]

On 10/19/2025 at 10:15 AM, Scouts Honor said:

even if you took all the money.

100% tax from the rich... it wouldn't work.

hi @lisa morales why are you always in dog pile? 

[Caveira]

19 minutes ago, red viking said:

Thats good. Very few wingers support that though. 

Almost every conservative I’ve ever  met wants responsible spending in every sector of government.  You just like to repeat your argument thousands of time to tell yourself you are right.   We don’t care the sector.  We want the government to not be wasteful. 

all wasteful spending is my $$ being wasted. 

Edited 10 hours ago by Caveira

[JimmySpeaks]

25 minutes ago, red viking said:

Thats good. Very few wingers support that though. 

You’re so full of crap.  More conservatives want those things than wokesters do. We’re for less gov and fewer handouts remember.  Btw  The left would burn the country down if SS was taken away

[red viking]

33 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

You’re so full of crap.  More conservatives want those things than wokesters do. We’re for less gov and fewer handouts remember.  Btw  The left would burn the country down if SS was taken away

Bs. I called u out on this and you were NOT in support of ss or military cuts

[JimmySpeaks]

9 minutes ago, red viking said:

Bs. I called u out on this and you were NOT in support of ss or military cuts

You just don’t EVER pay attention.  I’ve said many times in here that SS is a wasted system. I’d have 3-4 the money if I’d have been able to keep it and invest it.  So would everyone else. It’s worth $9 per hour to the avg person.  we’ve had this discussion on more than one occasion. You got mad because I told you I didn’t count on or need my SS.   I’ve also said there’s no need to keep adding to the military budget. Spend it more efficiently.   
 

and AGAIN THE WOKESTERS will never accept getting rid of SS.  The freeloaders need it. 

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[Scouts Honor]

 

[Caveira]

1 minute ago, Scouts Honor said:

 

Not one leftist on this board made a peep out of any of these protestors calling for the murder if ice agents or celebrating Kirk’s death or any of that.   And  they won’t.   They have no moral compass when it comes to that 

[red viking]

25 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

You just don’t EVER pay attention.  I’ve said many times in here that SS is a wasted system. I’d have 3-4 the money if I’d have been able to keep it and invest it.  So would everyone else. It’s worth $9 per hour to the avg person.  we’ve had this discussion on more than one occasion. You got mad because I told you I didn’t count on or need my SS.   I’ve also said there’s no need to keep adding to the military budget. Spend it more efficiently.   
 

and AGAIN THE WOKESTERS will never accept getting rid of SS.  The freeloaders need it. 

You did NOT say u were in support of cuts to ss. I said I am. Unlike most wingers, I'm good w cutting military (I'd actually completely gut that fat bloated pig), making ss solvent by increasing contributions or cutting benefits, and also limiting more what Medicare will fund as people get to very advanced ages. 

The idiot wingers focus on pidly crap like planned parenthood, EPA and NPR. Super dumb. 

[JimmySpeaks]

14 minutes ago, red viking said:

You did NOT say u were in support of cuts to ss. I said I am. Unlike most wingers, I'm good w cutting military (I'd actually completely gut that fat bloated pig), making ss solvent by increasing contributions or cutting benefits, and also limiting more what Medicare will fund as people get to very advanced ages. 

The idiot wingers focus on pidly crap like planned parenthood, EPA and NPR. Super dumb. 

I said I’d completely gut it which means …………getting rid of it and letting people invest the money themselves. You don’t want military spending because you’re fine being taken over by China and communism.  I’ll wait for you to deny that one.  As I’ve said quit adding to the military budget.  All that piddling crap needs a to go too.  
 

I have retiree medical so I’m fine but you sure have a hard on for the people that need to be taken care of in their later age.  Medicare is another thing the woke jokes will never allow to go away. 

[JimmySpeaks]

Social Security is worth $9 per hour to the avg recipient.  It’s. A. Joke. 

[JimmySpeaks]

1 hour ago, red viking said:

Bs. I called u out on this and you were NOT in support of ss or military cuts

I’ll wait for you to show me where you called me out on this.  NEVER HAPPENED 

[red viking]

1 hour ago, JimmySpeaks said:

I’ll wait for you to show me where you called me out on this.  NEVER HAPPENED 

I said several times, to you, that we should cut ss and u never agreed. 

[Caveira]

8 minutes ago, red viking said:

I said several times, to you, that we should cut ss and u never agreed. 

Be specific in what you mean.  What are you cutting 

Edited 7 hours ago by Caveira

[JimmySpeaks]

19 minutes ago, red viking said:

I said several times, to you, that we should cut ss and u never agreed. 

Because I’ve always said the system is a joke and needs to be revamped.  You never once agreed.  What’s your point?   

[JimmySpeaks]

21 minutes ago, red viking said:

I said several times, to you, that we should cut ss and u never agreed. 

You want to get rid of the military, retirement programs and medical for the elderly. Thats all youve said. Nothing about how will remain secure, have people set up to not work their entire lives and how we take care of the sick.  You’re perfectly fine spending away on unlawfuls and freeloaders though.  
 

specificlly tell us what you mean by cutting these three programs.  How much?  Then what?  Typical wokster all talk nothing of substance. 

[ionel]

5 hours ago, red viking said:

Lifespan and health span correlate strongly. Health is a big part of quality of life. If you can't see that, you're beyond help. 

When was the last time you walked through a nursing home? Would most rather be 100 in a wheel chair or 85 fishing, biking, hiking playing golf and pickleball.  Most of those 100 year old men are lucky they didn't die in the war, or work related accident or auto etc does luck mean quality?  

Now take a look at obesity rates for 12 to 15 yr olds.  That is really sad but folks are making bad life choices and most definitely affects quality.

[GreatWhiteNorth]

On 10/19/2025 at 6:59 AM, red viking said:

I agree. I don't think we have a choice though.

Maybe take a gander at what other countries do who provide health care to their citizens at no cost.

Perhaps we don't have to individually solve a puzzle that's already been mostly solved.

Edited 6 hours ago by GreatWhiteNorth

[JimmySpeaks]

15 minutes ago, GreatWhiteNorth said:

Maybe take a gander at what other countries do who provide health care to their citizens at no cost.

Perhaps we don't have to individually solve a puzzle that's already been mostly solved.

At no cost. Bahahahahahahhahahahahahahhaha.   

[ionel]

15 minutes ago, GreatWhiteNorth said:

Maybe take a gander at what other countries do who provide health care to their citizens at no cost.

Perhaps we don't have to individually solve a puzzle that's already been mostly solved.

Few days ago stopped at C store on way to work to grab something for lunch and cafine.  Got a burger and diet  coke.  The younger overweight woman in front of me got two regular pepsies and a cookie.  Will free health care solve that problem?  

[JimmySpeaks]

4 minutes ago, ionel said:

Few days ago stopped at C store on way to work to grab something for lunch and cafine.  Got a burger and diet  coke.  The younger overweight woman in front of me got two regular pepsies and a cookie.  Will free health care solve that problem?  

Sure. Because it’s at no cost.  

[ionel]

20 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

Sure. Because it’s at no cost.  

... no cost cookies for everyone?   

[GreatWhiteNorth]

27 minutes ago, ionel said:

Few days ago stopped at C store on way to work to grab something for lunch and cafine.  Got a burger and diet  coke.  The younger overweight woman in front of me got two regular pepsies and a cookie.  Will free health care solve that problem?  

Hmmm...

You chose diet coke, which is a bad choice in terms of health. Regular pepsi is a much better choice at lunch.

The other woman chose (2) pepsi's and a cookie. Hard to say - maybe she was providing for her family. Maybe in addition to what they were able to obtain for lunch that day. Just maybe. Neither of us know.

Aside of speculation, you choosing diet coke is a factual problem. Healthwise, that is terrible for you. (Not to mention a C store burger.)

No-cost health care solves a bunch of problems for countries around the world. Maybe look into it if you can spare the time.

[ionel]

2 minutes ago, GreatWhiteNorth said:

Hmmm...

You chose diet coke, which is a bad choice in terms of health. Regular pepsi is a much better choice at lunch.

The other woman chose (2) pepsi's and a cookie. Hard to say - maybe she was providing for her family. Maybe in addition to what they were able to obtain for lunch that day. Just maybe. Neither of us know.

Aside of speculation, you choosing diet coke is a factual problem. Healthwise, that is terrible for you. (Not to mention a C store burger.)

No-cost health care solves a bunch of problems for countries around the world. Maybe look into it if you can spare the time.

It was C store or no lunch, 12 hr days so needed to eat.  It mightve been a diet Dr. Pepper.  The doctor can't be bad health choice no?