Sr. Worlds... Day 2

[bnwtwg]

2 minutes ago, Grecojones said:

Technically skinchanged would be the more precise wording. 

No because Zahid was a, in the words of Martin Garrix, mf'in animal

[bnwtwg]

19 minutes ago, Window12 said:

Looks like the team title could be riding on how Kyle Snyder performs tomorrow 

Snyder makes finals, or Snyder bbq's for all the quick visit jokes.

Decisions, decisions...

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

23 minutes ago, Window12 said:

Looks like the team title could be riding on how Kyle Snyder performs tomorrow 

I'm not sure?  Has anyone done the points? I would assume Iran outscores us at 65, and then a likely scenario is Snyder 2nd and Azapira 3rd.  That doesn't sound great to me.

[Window12]

2 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

I'm not sure?  Has anyone done the points? I would assume Iran outscores us at 65, and then a likely scenario is Snyder 2nd and Azapira 3rd.  That doesn't sound great to me.

I think at the moment there is 5 points in it only- so feels like gonna be close

[Window12]

8 minutes ago, bnwtwg said:

Snyder makes finals, or Snyder bbq's for all the quick visit jokes.

Decisions, decisions...

The former would have more gratification 

[bnwtwg]

17 minutes ago, Window12 said:

The former would have more gratification 

We all know I'm a big fan of the US latter

[Window12]

14 minutes ago, bnwtwg said:

We all know I'm a big fan of the US latter

Yes- quite hard to resist. You never know when the opportunity may arise again….

[bnwtwg]

2 minutes ago, Window12 said:

Yes- quite hard to resist. You never know when the opportunity may arise again….

Snyder prefers for it to be hard. Even willing to pay, oops I mean say, that's fine!

[Window12]

8 minutes ago, bnwtwg said:

Snyder prefers for it to be hard. Even willing to pay, oops I mean say, that's fine!

In a way it’s a shame. He has a suitcase full of world medals with a chance to add to it this year perhaps with a big opportunity to secure the team title for team USA but all eclipsed by an indiscretion.

I’m sure his achievements will last longer than his mistakes though ( I mean no one remembers Hugh Grants one).

Edited September 14, 2025 by Window12
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[pawrestler]

Just now, Window12 said:

In a way it’s a shame. He has a suitcase full of world medals with a chance to add to it this year perhaps with a big opportunity to secure the team title for team USA but all eclipsed my an indiscretion.

I’m sure his achievements will last longer than his mistakes though ( I mean no one remembers Hugh Grants one).

I’ll never forgot after he blasted Boris Johnson someone tweeting that ‘Hugh Grant finally met a BJ he didn’t like’ 

[AZSC160]

1 hour ago, scourge165 said:

Who wants to tell him?

 

Small Towns have plenty of guys who run their mouths also. I don't see how that would factor into you liking or not liking online trash talking. 

For sure, small towns have plenty of loud mouths. The difference is when I was growing up, it was always a guy saying it straight to your face. The online trash talk just feels like a totally different thing. I also haven't lived in my hometown in over a decade though now so maybe (probably) the small town trash talk is on instagram and youtube now too. I guess I was just being hopefully nostalgic.

[bnwtwg]

49 minutes ago, Window12 said:

In a way it’s a shame. He has a suitcase full of world medals with a chance to add to it this year perhaps with a big opportunity to secure the team title for team USA but all eclipsed by an indiscretion.

I’m sure his achievements will last longer than his mistakes though ( I mean no one remembers Hugh Grants one).

In a way, it's his fault entirely. His achievements will last for many decades, if not centuries. His family will feel otherwise.

 

What do a Russian Tank, a Tazmanian Devil, and Snyder's Hog have in common? He was never able to overcome what they desired most.

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

2 minutes ago, bnwtwg said:

In a way, it's his fault entirely. His achievements will last for many decades, if not centuries. His family will feel otherwise.

 

What do a Russian Tank, a Tazmanian Devil, and Snyder's Hog have in common? He was never able to overcome what they desired most.

Where does Azapira fit in?

[bnwtwg]

2 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Where does Azapira fit in?

I have the perfect joke that will *instantly* get me sent to the zoo

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

Just now, bnwtwg said:

I have the perfect joke that will *instantly* get me sent to the zoo

Prob had to do with the hog theme?

[bnwtwg]

5 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Prob had to do with the hog theme?

Oh no, much worse. Just like every post of mine.

[lu_alum]

2 hours ago, Window12 said:

Looks like the team title could be riding on how Kyle Snyder performs tomorrow 

Current standings...

[Yellow_Medal]

If any Flo guys are out there, Levi’s quarterfinal video link seems to be broken

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

31 minutes ago, lu_alum said:

Current standings...

That is a really tough task, as it stands.  Not sure about how Iran looks in finals/repechage tomorrow, but on paper, they kill us in 65/97.  And they're already leading.

[BAC]

Day 2 thoughts.

Lee:  Tough to watch.  It wasn't just that he lost, it's that the Armenian outwrestled him in about 6 straight positions.  In most of them, Lee seemed to be caught flat-footed.  I hate to sound like a hater but he needs to get out of Iowa City.  He just has no practice partners there, and he's not getting the kinds of high-end looks that he needs to get if he's going to run the gamut at Worlds.  It seems like the Brands are so worried about eroding his confidence that they have him practicing with cupcakes, and it showed today.

Carr:  I thought he looked excellent.  He gave Valiev all he could handle, and obviously Valiev is one of the best in the world.  Many criticized him for attacking Valiev late in the 2nd when all of Valiev's scoring was off counters, but I disagree.  Carr scored on him before and can score again. He just needs to make sure he isn't predictable. The match against Sidakov tomorrow should be great.  Between Carr and Mesenbrink, this weight is in good hands for the next quad.

Haines:  I thought I was going to have to go on my bi-weekly rant about Dake not coming down to 79kg where he belongs.  But then what happens?  Haines takes out the world champ and is in the finals.  Welp.  I confess I had a DNP penciled in here and I'm so happy to be wrong. Haines keeps great position and his defense is as good as ever, and is turning it on when he needs to. Finals vs the Greek should be great.

Hidlay:  I've been high on Hidlay a long time and super excited to see him get his shot here, and to see him truly make the most of it.  He looks like a man possessed... like a like a guy suffering from roid rage, except without the roids.  Chalk him up as the Guy I Want to Wrestle the Least.  I think he has a great shot at gold.

***

Jax:  More of the same.  Threw himself into the match and wrestled fearlessly.  Got into some positions he wasn't quite ready for, but I loved watching him work his slide by.  Tough ending, but very legit opponent.  

Zahid:  I thought he was even more impressive in his gold medal match than against Ghasempour.  He wrestled hard all match, with no sign of waning at the end.  Compare this match to the tech he took at his hands just 2 years ago, and you can really see how far Zahid has come.  Super excited for him as you just know this is a product of him deciding he needed to make a change if he was to reach his goals, and he made it.  You reap what you sow.

[Animal197]

any guesses how this goes for Jax? Sounds like there is not really a precedent.

[bnwtwg]

1 hour ago, Animal197 said:

any guesses how this goes for Jax? Sounds like there is not really a precedent.

It's not going to get overturned. The precedent has consistently been to avoid Kolat-esque post-match experiences. This did not go our way in a very crappy manner, but overall UWW has been a significant step up from FILA in pretty much every facet including sketchy match endings being finalized with a winner getting their hand raised on the mat. The only circumstance I can recall was the blatant, proven sham reffing at 2024 Euro olympic qualifier.

[GrandOlm]

Looks like Turkey is cooked. They have been a Freestyle wrestling power since the 1940s (80 years), and now that Akgul is retired, they don't have much of anyone. Heavyweight is also the outlier weight class that let's you get away with a really good athlete and not the greatest wrestling scene. 

Is Russia no longer the pinnacle? Is it the war?  Their top performers are in their 30s and the transfers are beating the home reps. Could be a new era where Russia is battling it out with the other top nations, instead of the dominant power.

For all the talk of systems, I don't think the Russian version of relying on 2 or 3 small provinces is perfect either. 

[dragit]

13 hours ago, Truzzcat said:

I cannot stand stopping action 3 times in 23 seconds to warn somebody and essentially giving them a fresh start.

Yep.

And earlier in the period was worse, he just sat there on the mat for maybe 20 seconds, ignoring the ref's instructions to get up and wrestle. 

I feel like we're so used to this happening to Americans that we're numb to it, I was surprised to come here and see the reaction and have it be so tame. 

The ref himself said there was a singlet pull (not at the end, one of the earlier referenced of the three comical action stops) which as I understand it is a point.

[oldschool]

2 hours ago, dragit said:

I feel like we're so used to this happening to Americans that we're numb to it, I was surprised to come here and see the reaction and have it be so tame. 

 

america is not the main character of the world. bad reffing and disputed calls happen just as much to other countries as it does to us

while the way jax's match ended was unfortunate in how it was handled, i don't think there's any chance of it being overturned, nor should it imho

if you go back and watch jax's match, the crowd was so outraged when the ref gave the match away to jax w/ a few seconds left. that's not how you ever want to see a match end. it was unfortunate that the refs had so much back & forth, and i agree that the verbal cautions muddied the waters, but jax made a serious tactical error and gave up a late 4 points which sealed the match in favor yessengeldi