Why don't you like undocumented immigrants?

[JimmySpeaks]

And they can’t wait until it’s easier and quicker. Oh and not UNLAWFUL 

[Bigbrog]

6 minutes ago, red viking said:

Nope. Just make it easier and quicker. 

So you are all for investing money into a more secure border and entry program?  I am too

[red viking]

10 minutes ago, Bigbrog said:

So you are all for investing money into a more secure border and entry program?  I am too

Yes, but money should come out of the military budget, or raise taxes. Sick of winger runaway borrowing. Also, let more of them in. 

Edited 22 hours ago by red viking

[Lipdrag]

Why don't you like undocumented immigrants?
 

BecauseI I like documents.

I don’t like illegal aliens because I like legality.  

[ionel]

10 minutes ago, red viking said:

Yes, but money should come out of the military budget, or raise taxes. Sick of winger runaway borrowing. Also, let more of them in. 

Why not take it out of the NASA budget? 

[red viking]

1 hour ago, ionel said:

Why not take it out of the NASA budget? 

More waste in the military. Fat and bloated. 

[Caveira]

1 hour ago, red viking said:

Yes, but money should come out of the military budget, or raise taxes. Sick of winger runaway borrowing. Also, let more of them in. 

We already let the most in (legally) of any country on earth.  How much more is the right number and why shouldn’t other countries share more of the burden.   

[El Luchador]

9 hours ago, red viking said:

If they're working, contributing and paying taxes unlike you, they're clearly a net benefit. They take up very little in healthcare related costs too, unlike our seasoned citizens. 

As long as they're also being generally lawful, which most of them are. Lower crime rate than us citizens, despite the fix news propaganda.  

We need to make it easier for good young people to migrate here,  legally. Loosen the laws. We need more of them. 

Sounds good until someone is doing your job for less driving down your standard of living. Huge amounts of money leave the country and never benefit America.

[El Luchador]

5 hours ago, red viking said:

More waste in the military. Fat and bloated. 

Military is one of the few legitimate functions of government.

[red viking]

2 minutes ago, El Luchador said:

Military is one of the few legitimate functions of government.

A little is essential. Our military spending is about half of the entire world. I'd gut it like a fat pig. 

[El Luchador]

2 minutes ago, red viking said:

A little is essential. Our military spending is about half of the entire world. I'd gut it like a fat pig. 

How about we take over the whole world and then everyone can be an American?  Then we can justify the budget and solve immigration. 

[red viking]

11 minutes ago, El Luchador said:

How about we take over the whole world and then everyone can be an American?  Then we can justify the budget and solve immigration. 

Lol but lots of dumb wingers probably think it's a good idea. 

[El Luchador]

Just now, red viking said:

Lol but lots of dumb wingers probably think it's a good idea. 

We need new ideas. It's time to think outside the box. It would end the war in Ukraine and Gaza. Everyone wants that. I think support for 1 America would be overwhelming. Of course everyone will need to learn English and convert to Christianity.

[red viking]

1 hour ago, El Luchador said:

We need new ideas. It's time to think outside the box. It would end the war in Ukraine and Gaza. Everyone wants that. I think support for 1 America would be overwhelming. Of course everyone will need to learn English and convert to Christianity.

Lmfao. We couldn't even maintain order in Iraq or Afhhanistan. If you're even somewhat serious, you are living in a complete fantasy land. 

Or you mean a new world order where the UN rules? Lmao even harder. 

Edited 13 hours ago by red viking

[JimmySpeaks]

15 minutes ago, red viking said:

Lmfao. We couldn't even maintain order in Iraq or Afhhanistan. If you're even somewhat serious, you are living in a complete fantasy land. 

Or you mean a new world order where the UN rules? Lmao even harder. 

Thankfully Trump stopped the new world order.  

[headshuck]

Lmfao. We couldn't even maintain order in Iraq or Afhhanistan. If you're even somewhat serious, you are living in a complete fantasy land. 
Or you mean a new world order where the UN rules? Lmao even harder. 

Maybe it’s time for a new handle?

[Tripnsweep]

So nobody can give a solid reason. 

Pretty much what I expected. 

[headshuck]

So nobody can give a solid reason. 
Pretty much what I expected. 

See initial response.

[headshuck]

It’s not about disliking undocumented immigrants; it’s about enforcing laws that presidents like Clinton and others acknowledged but never fully addressed. Trump promised to tackle illegal immigration head-on with deportations and border security, and he’s the first in years to prioritize getting it done.

[ionel]

28 minutes ago, Tripnsweep said:

So nobody can give a solid reason. 

Pretty much what I expected. 

Tell us what you mean by "undocumented." 

[GreatWhiteNorth]

19 hours ago, El Luchador said:

Pretty sure an arrest requires a crime. 

For law enforcement, that's true.

For ICE, that's not true. They need neither any proof of crime nor any warrant. They don't even need badges. They are a problem for this very reason. They aren't law enforcement, and they are accountable to no cities, no counties, no states, and even no federal law enforcement agencies.

They are only accountable to the White House.

In case anyone would wonder why some of us call them "secret police" is because they are exactly that.

And the billions that they are being funded by (in the big fat ugly bill) makes their budget ridiculous.

The ICE secret police's budget ranks them as the 5th largest military budget in the world. (No other US groups involved, this is just the budget of ICE.)

If you want a US secret police that can grab up and 'disappear' anybody at any time to never be seen again (like they have in China, Russia, and many other shithole countries) - then ICE is your thing.

For everybody else, ICE is a nightmare that should be eliminated ASAP. They are a shit show.

Edited 8 hours ago by GreatWhiteNorth

[Tripnsweep]

6 hours ago, headshuck said:

21 hours ago, headshuck said:

It’s not about disliking undocumented immigrants; it’s about enforcing laws that presidents like Clinton and others acknowledged but never fully addressed. Trump promised to tackle illegal immigration head-on with deportations and border security, and he’s the first in years to prioritize getting it done.

So if you're in favor of going after criminals, why do you support the actions of a rapist and 34x felon?

[El Luchador]

24 minutes ago, Tripnsweep said:

So if you're in favor of going after criminals, why do you support the actions of a rapist and 34x felon?

We fully support the criminal prosecution of the people who weaponized their political positions to fabricate crimes against their political opponents.

[El Luchador]

4 hours ago, GreatWhiteNorth said:

For law enforcement, that's true.

For ICE, that's not true. They need neither any proof of crime nor any warrant. They don't even need badges. They are a problem for this very reason. They aren't law enforcement, and they are accountable to no cities, no counties, no states, and even no federal law enforcement agencies.

They are only accountable to the White House.

In case anyone would wonder why some of us call them "secret police" is because they are exactly that.

And the billions that they are being funded by (in the big fat ugly bill) makes their budget ridiculous.

The ICE secret police's budget ranks them as the 5th largest military budget in the world. (No other US groups involved, this is just the budget of ICE.)

If you want a US secret police that can grab up and 'disappear' anybody at any time to never be seen again (like they have in China, Russia, and many other shithole countries) - then ICE is your thing.

For everybody else, ICE is a nightmare that should be eliminated ASAP. They are a shit show.

Absolutely not true. All lies and ignorance. I can't believe you would publicly say something so stupid. Without a crime there is no arrest.  Nothing you said actually exists in reality. You are dangerously delusional. When people fabricate propaganda they need only fool a small and incredibly ignorant segment of society. In this case it's you. The Constitution exists weather or not someone violates it. There is no exception for ICE to ignore it. That is just a lie. When they arrest someone there has to be a crime. The only shit show going on here is being performed by lying delusional leftists.

Edited 3 hours ago by El Luchador

[El Luchador]

Garrett: book him Danno

Danno: For what

Garrett: absolutely nothing.