Why Does the U.S. Support Israel?

[JimmySpeaks]

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[PortaJohn]

16 minutes ago, Undefeated said:

You don’t even know one of the greatest living philosophers in the world, one of the top critics of U.S. foreign policy, whose books have been published for decades in the U.S. and abroad… and then you go around calling everyone ‘dumb’ while acting like a political science expert? Dumb.

What are you? An uniformed 19 year old? 

[red viking]

Plenty of good israeli citizens but I'd be in favor of death penalty (by law) for netenyahoo, the military and everybody involved in this genocide. For intentional mass murder of civilians. There's a special place in hell for animals like them.

[Undefeated]

3 minutes ago, PortaJohn said:

What are you? An uniformed 19 year old? 

No worries - at least now you know Chomsky. Next time you wanna play political science expert, try quoting him. Don’t worry, we won’t make fun of you… too much.

[PortaJohn]

3 minutes ago, Undefeated said:

No worries - at least now you know Chomsky. Next time you wanna play political science expert, try quoting him. Don’t worry, we won’t make fun of you… too much.

You only embarrassed yourself using that hack as a reference.  Enjoy the Khmer Rogue Rally

Edited August 22, 2025 by PortaJohn

[Undefeated]

35 minutes ago, red viking said:

Plenty of good israeli citizens but I'd be in favor of death penalty (by law) for netenyahoo, the military and everybody involved in this genocide. For intentional mass murder of civilians. There's a special place in hell for animals like them.

Well, that whole death penalty idea for Netanyahu and the army isn’t really realistic - they’ve got the backing of the U.S. and powerful European countries. But what’s coming next?

Pretty soon, Trump will step in as the 'savior' of the Gaza people, playing out the Zionists’ plan to push Gazans out.

Israel gets what it wants, starts building settlements in Gaza for Israelis, Trump strikes his hero pose in front of the cameras claiming he solved the Gaza crisis, and the Gazans are relocated to areas already set up by the U.S. and Israel - maybe even some shipped off to Jordan and neighboring countries.

[Caveira]

21 minutes ago, Undefeated said:

Well, that whole death penalty idea for Netanyahu and the army isn’t really realistic - they’ve got the backing of the U.S. and powerful European countries. But what’s coming next?

Pretty soon, Trump will step in as the 'savior' of the Gaza people, playing out the Zionists’ plan to push Gazans out.

Israel gets what it wants, starts building settlements in Gaza for Israelis, Trump strikes his hero pose in front of the cameras claiming he solved the Gaza crisis, and the Gazans are relocated to areas already set up by the U.S. and Israel - maybe even some shipped off to Jordan and neighboring countries.

Don’t forget 70,000 Buddhists then nominate Trump for the Nobel peace prize 

[Undefeated]

6 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Don’t forget 70,000 Buddhists then nominate Trump for the Nobel peace prize 

As long as there are minions like you, we don’t have to bother pulling Buddhists off their yoga mats.

[Caveira]

20 minutes ago, Undefeated said:

As long as there are minions like you, we don’t have to bother pulling Buddhists off their yoga mats.

I don’t have the ability to nominate him for anything.   

[JimmySpeaks]

22 hours ago, Undefeated said:

Well, that whole death penalty idea for Netanyahu and the army isn’t really realistic - they’ve got the backing of the U.S. and powerful European countries. But what’s coming next?

Pretty soon, Trump will step in as the 'savior' of the Gaza people, playing out the Zionists’ plan to push Gazans out.

Israel gets what it wants, starts building settlements in Gaza for Israelis, Trump strikes his hero pose in front of the cameras claiming he solved the Gaza crisis, and the Gazans are relocated to areas already set up by the U.S. and Israel - maybe even some shipped off to Jordan and neighboring countries.

Perfect.   

[1032004]

Another reason for the OP’s question.  I had actually never heard about the story of the USS Liberty before this week. @Interviewed_at_Weehawken, you’re a history buff, do you think it was intentional by Israel?  The captain of the ship did.

 

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

2 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Another reason for the OP’s question.  I had actually never heard about the story of the USS Liberty before this week. @Interviewed_at_Weehawken, you’re a history buff, do you think it was intentional by Israel?  The captain of the ship did.

 

Yes, I am familiar with the attack, but have not done extensive research on it.  Very possibly intentional and a definite cover-up to some degree.  The 1967 War is not in my area of expertise, so I am not well-versed.  History is very big!

[Offthemat]

 

[red viking]

I wouldn't put it past Israel to do something like some accuse them for with the USS Liberty. However, there is plenty of other crap that they and their lobbyists pull that is much better documented and more recent. 

[Gene Mills Fan]

Well in 1937 didn't the Arabs almost kill Popeye?

 

 

[Offthemat]

 

[mspart]

The guy on the radio is Jewish and his sons are in the IDF, but he brought up USS Liberty the other day because Massie did. 

He said at the time we were not really allied with Israel.   We were suppose to stay 100 miles away and got too close and Israel fired on Liberty not knowing it was a US ship.   When it was realized it was a US ship, they apologized, and paid reparations etc.   I don't know if all this is true, but if so, why would they knowingly shoot at Liberty and then pay for reparations etc?   

That's all I know about the situation.   I just checked on the google and its AI corroborates the apology and payment.  

mspart

 

[1032004]

6 hours ago, Offthemat said:

 

This guy brings up some decent points and he appears to have done a lot of research.  For the record, I think the true conspiracy theory would be thinking the US was in on it.  But with the number of “mistakes” that the IDF has been making the past couple years, I think it’s fair to question whether this was actually a mistake.

To that point, my main issue with his content is that he misrepresented the statements made by the ship’s captain.  He quotes him as calling the attack “gross incompetence and dereliction of duty.”  But he left out this quote:

“In many years, I had wanted to believe that the attack on the Liberty was pure error.  It appears to me that it was not a pure case of mistaken identity.”

 

But unfortunately, like you, Mr Boring loses all credibility by accusing anyone of questioning whether the attack might’ve been intentional of being an antisemite.

[mspart]

20 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

But unfortunately, like you, Mr Boring loses all credibility by accusing anyone of questioning whether the attack might’ve been intentional of being an antisemite.

Are you referring to me or some other "you"?   If me, please show where I exhibited that behavior.  

mspart

[mspart]

Just now, mspart said:

Are you referring to me or some other "you"?   If me, please show where I said anything like that about the USS Liberty.   

mspart

 

[1032004]

Just now, mspart said:

Are you referring to me or some other "you"?   If me, please show where I exhibited that behavior.  

mspart

No.  Primarily @Offthemat, the poster I quoted.   Others such as @Caveira and @Interviewed_at_Weehawken have done similar as well.

[Offthemat]

I don’t think every criticism of Israel, or Netanyahu, or of a Jew, is antisemitic.  But it is common for antisemites to say they are merely anti-Zion.  Jews know the difference and so do non-Jews like me.  You are an antisemite, you even answer to it.  

[1032004]

7 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

I don’t think every criticism of Israel, or Netanyahu, or of a Jew, is antisemitic.  But it is common for antisemites to say they are merely anti-Zion.  Jews know the difference and so do non-Jews like me.  You are an antisemite, you even answer to it.  

Feel free to incorrectly think that, it’s a free country.  Just know it destroys what little credibility you had to begin with.  You being caught lying on multiple occasions destroys it further.

Edited June 10 by 1032004

[Offthemat]

Look who’s calling who a liar.  I know what I’ve said is right, but you don’t even believe your own blathering and again answered to antisemite.

[1032004]

15 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

Look who’s calling who a liar.  I know what I’ve said is right, but you don’t even believe your own blathering and again answered to antisemite.

You even admitted to lying, you just called it a “misstatement,” but then doubled down on it, lol 

Edited June 11 by 1032004