Making DC great again.

[Caveira]

4 minutes ago, reversaloffortune said:

Liar

Whatever  boss … they weren’t all in the last year though.   

[Offthemat]

42 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

In case you couldn’t tell by whom I quoted…I wasn’t asking you.  Run along little fella. 

So you realize it was a stupid, irrelevant question and now that you’ve been called on it you’re going to weasel out, using any slimy tack you can imagine.

[WrestlingRasta]

31 minutes ago, Caveira said:

I’ve been victim of property crime in Chicago 3 times in the last two years.  Yes.  Shot my windows out of my car twice. Car Stolen once.
 

not as recent but  I was mugged on Cicero Ave (the ghetto) at gun point stealing my coat and shoes … had to walk home in the snow.     We were jumped by the 2-6 at a party.  Several friends put in the hospital.  I got beat … but not hospitalized.   Is that enough ?

That’s a lot.  Sorry to hear that.  I lived outside of Chicago and worked in Chicago heights for some time.  Fortunately never had any of those experiences. 

[El Luchador]

Whenever I have business in Chicago I stay in Wisconsin or Indiana. They accept my CCW permit. I'd rather stay in Gary armed than Chicago unarmed. 

[Caveira]

Just now, El Luchador said:

Whenever I have business in Chicago I stay in Wisconsin or Indiana. They accept my CCW permit. I'd rather stay in Gary armed than Chicago unarmed. 

After my kids get into college or roughly that age I’m out of cook county.   Crime and taxes.   Crazy place.   Wish I had retirement $$$ when my kids were 2 ish and 4 Ish I would have moved then.    Now they’re in hs or close and want to stay with friends.  Etc.  Wisconsin or Indy or somewhere warm.  Maybe both lol     6/7 more years and I’m gone 

[El Luchador]

4 minutes ago, Caveira said:

After my kids get into college or roughly that age I’m out of cook county.   Crime and taxes.   Crazy place.   Wish I had retirement $$$ when my kids were 2 ish and 4 Ish I would have moved then.    Now they’re in hs or close and want to stay with friends.  Etc.  Wisconsin or Indy or somewhere warm.  Maybe both lol     6/7 more years and I’m gone 

I've spent time in most every state. There are so many wonderful areas in this country that politicians have made a living hell. Chicago has a wonderful vibe and so much to do but the trade off isn't worth it. Iowa isn't to far from Chicago I think that's where I'd set my roots if I was starting over. I like Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, and Wyoming but my wife has already decided our next home is going to be in Texas. It's so f'ing hot in the summer it's unbelievable.

[Caveira]

1 minute ago, El Luchador said:

I've spent time in most every state. There are so many wonderful areas in this country that politicians have made a living hell. Chicago has a wonderful vibe and so much to do but the trade off isn't worth it. Iowa isn't to far from Chicago I think that's where I'd set my roots if I was starting over. I like Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, and Wyoming but my wife has already decided our next home is going to be in Texas. It's so f'ing hot in the summer it's unbelievable.

My wife grew up on a farm in Iowa.  She would love to go back.    She likes Oregon and Florida too.   I wouldn’t move to Portland though.  That place is crazy 

[Caveira]

Now do Chicago and the other cities that have this.   Having no bail for some of these crimes is stipid. 
 

 

[Caveira]

21 hours ago, reversaloffortune said:

Liar

Chicagos leadership and how they account for 100 shootings over the weekend.     He’s on video discussing it 

 

 

Chicago Mayor Blames Richard Nixon as Over 100 People Shot at Weekend

[Bigbrog]

1 hour ago, Caveira said:

Chicagos leadership and how they account for 100 shootings over the weekend.     He’s on video discussing it 

 

 

Chicago Mayor Blames Richard Nixon as Over 100 People Shot at Weekend

Wow

[WrestlingRasta]

 What does it say that violent crime, property crime, and failure to appear rates are down in Cook County in the year that the state of Illinois (these are not city initiatives but rather state legislation) enacted this system.

They are not down by a lot, but if they're down they can't be up....which goes against what certain media, talking heads, and politicians would have us believe. 

[ionel]

2 hours ago, Caveira said:

 

 

Chicago Mayor Blames Richard Nixon as Over 100 People Shot at Weekend

Even 50+ years later he is still "tricky."  

[Caveira]

20 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

 What does it say that violent crime, property crime, and failure to appear rates are down in Cook County in the year that the state of Illinois (these are not city initiatives but rather state legislation) enacted this system.

They are not down by a lot, but if they're down they can't be up....which goes against what certain media, talking heads, and politicians would have us believe. 

They let a guy who allegedly cut  a woman’s head off.   Put her in a drum.   And messed with her body for quite some time.  Pardon me if I don’t believe they aren’t declassifying crimes to lower offenses and or just not arresting them.  I’m at the store I’ll Google later.    They don’t charge gang bangers with shooting or killing each other sometimes when they don’t involve civilians …. They call it something like mutual combatant.   I’m not even joking about Chicago 

[Caveira]

23 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

 What does it say that violent crime, property crime, and failure to appear rates are down in Cook County in the year that the state of Illinois (these are not city initiatives but rather state legislation) enacted this system.

They are not down by a lot, but if they're down they can't be up....which goes against what certain media, talking heads, and politicians would have us believe. 

They let a guy who allegedly cut  a woman’s head off.   Put her in a drum.   And messed with her body for quite some time.  Pardon me if I don’t believe they aren’t declassifying crimes to lower offenses and or just not arresting them.  I’m at the store I’ll Google later.    They don’t charge gang bangers with shooting or killing each other sometimes when they don’t involve civilians …. They call it something like mutual combatant.   I’m not even joking about Chicago 

[Caveira]

CHICAGO VIOLENCE: PROSECUTORS REJECT CHARGES IN DEADLY GANG-RELATED AUSTIN SHOOTING

CHICAGO (WLS) -- There is an outcry from the mayor and some Chicago aldermen after men linked by police to a deadly gang shootout in Austin last week were released from custody. Prosecutors declined to charge each of them with a pair of felonies, including first-degree murder.

The mid-morning gunfight, which left one shooter dead and two of the suspects wounded, stemmed from an internal dispute between two gang factions, the Chicago Sun-Times reported.

[Caveira]

26 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

 What does it say that violent crime, property crime, and failure to appear rates are down in Cook County in the year that the state of Illinois (these are not city initiatives but rather state legislation) enacted this system.

They are not down by a lot, but if they're down they can't be up....which goes against what certain media, talking heads, and politicians would have us believe. 

Kim Foxx's proposal to not charge felonies from certain traffic stops has had success elsewhere
 

Cook County State’s Attorney Kim Foxx has stirred debate since proposing that her office no longer file felony charges when the cases stem solely from minor traffic violations.

Foxx says her intent is to reduce the incentive for police to conduct “pretextual stops,” where an officer uses a minor violation to pull over a car in order to find probable cause for another crime. Data shows such stops disproportionately target people of color and rarely result in charges.

 

[WrestlingRasta]

5 minutes ago, Caveira said:

They let a guy who allegedly cut  a woman’s head off.   Put her in a drum.   And messed with her body for quite some time.  Pardon me if I don’t believe they aren’t declassifying crimes to lower offenses and or just not arresting them.  I’m at the store I’ll Google later.    They don’t charge gang bangers with shooting or killing each other sometimes when they don’t involve civilians …. They call it something like mutual combatant.   I’m not even joking about Chicago 

I asked what it says that the data shows that violent crime, property crime, and failure to appear rates are down, I'm not saying the data claims crime has been eliminated.

[Caveira]

2 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

I asked what it says that the data shows that violent crime, property crime, and failure to appear rates are down, I'm not saying the data claims crime has been eliminated.

Give me one good reason to not prosecute first degree murder for that nonsense cited above.   And to let that trash element back on the street.  I’m sure they haven’t re offended 100 times since then.    

[WrestlingRasta]

6 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Give me one good reason to not prosecute first degree murder for that nonsense cited above.   And to let that trash element back on the street.  I’m sure they haven’t re offended 100 times since then.    

Well, i guess first you have to understand the system has nothing to do with "not to prosecute", it solely has to do with how they now determine whether or not a defendant is released pre-trial.  And, again, I asked what it says that the data is the data.  If you don't want to face the data, that's okay.  I'm not going to go through all your hoops with you this evening.  

Edited 1 hour ago by WrestlingRasta

[Caveira]

50 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

Well, i guess first you have to understand the system has nothing to do with "not to prosecute", it solely has to do with how they now determine whether or not a defendant is released pre-trial.  And, again, I asked what it says that the data is the data.  If you don't want to face the data, that's okay.  I'm not going to go through all your hoops with you this evening.  

What does not prosecuting gang bangers shooting each other because they are “non combatants” have to do with pre release.   They elected not to charge because gang banger A only shot at gang banger B.    If they’re not charging that.  How can their stats have any credibility.  

[WrestlingRasta]

11 minutes ago, Caveira said:

What does not prosecuting gang bangers shooting each other because they are “non combatants” have to do with pre release.   They elected not to charge because gang banger A only shot at gang banger B.    If they’re not charging that.  How can their stats have any credibility.  

Ummmm.....that's exactly my point.   A decision to not prosecute has nothing to do with a system on how to determine pre-trial release.   And I was specifically addressing your claim on how they determine pre-trial release.  As I see your reading comprehension is suffering again, allow me to copy your quote:  "Now do Chicago and the other cities that have this.   Having no bail for some of these crimes is stupid"    

 

The point is that whether or not the defendant can come up with the money for bail has no impact on whether or not they will commit the crime.   What the data shows is that with determining pre-trial release based on risk factors, rather than can they come up with money, is having an impact on whether or not those defendants are out of jail to commit another crime...or...not show up to court.   The system does not mean everyone is automatically released, it means their release is not simply determined by whether or not they have the money. 

To put it into simpler terms.....gang bangers have cash.   Drug dealers have cash.   Determining their release based on risk factors other than cash.....since these violent criminals have the cash...has no impact on crime going up, which is what the talking heads want you to believe.  The other benefit is that instead of $140 million dollars a year going to courts, it is going to the community retail store and restaurants, etc etc, all while not influencing an increase in crime.   

[Caveira]

2 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

Ummmm.....that's exactly my point.   A decision to not prosecute has nothing to do with a system on how to determine pre-trial release.   And I was specifically addressing your claim on how they determine pre-trial release.  As I see your reading comprehension is suffering again, allow me to copy your quote:  "Now do Chicago and the other cities that have this.   Having no bail for some of these crimes is stupid"    

 

The point is that whether or not the defendant can come up with the money for bail has no impact on whether or not they will commit the crime.   What the data shows is that with determining pre-trial release based on risk factors, rather than can they come up with money, is having an impact on whether or not those defendants are out of jail to commit another crime...or...not show up to court.   The system does not mean everyone is automatically released, it means their release is not simply determined by whether or not they have the money. 

To put it into simpler terms.....gang bangers have cash.   Drug dealers have cash.   Determining their release based on risk factors other than cash.....since these violent criminals have the cash...has no impact on crime going up, which is what the talking heads want you to believe.  The other benefit is that instead of $140 million dollars a year going to courts, it is going to the community retail store and restaurants, etc etc, all while not influencing an increase in crime.   

Why 

would 

you 

not 

charge 

Gang bangers

for killing

each other.    
 

 

I don’t care about bail for the purposes of that topic  

 

[Wrestleknownothing]

On 8/24/2025 at 2:19 PM, Caveira said:

Chicagos next 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/08/23/trump-chicago-military-national-guard/

 

Brandon Johnson mayor calling for people to riot ….   Maybe homen shall arrest him.   When blue politicians ask for riots do they get accused of insurrection or nah?

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8B5PuyF/

It is working. Talk about this instead of the Epstein Files. 

[Caveira]

5 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

It is working. Talk about this instead of the Epstein Files. 

Find me one human that doesn’t want the Epstein files released on this board.   I’ll save you some time.  You won’t. 

[WrestlingRasta]

22 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Why 

would 

you 

not 

charge 

Gang bangers

for killing

each other.    
 

 

I don’t care about bail for the purposes of that topic  

 

Okay….well, you brought up the bail. (As was shown where I quoted you).   I guess since the data doesn’t agree with what your politicians want you to believe (I know I know, they’re all trash), you’re ready for one of your shifts.   Carry on.