What color is this guy?

[red viking]

35 minutes ago, mspart said:

If there is no pic, then why say he is possibly white?   you have no idea but spew forth a possibility.   It doesn't work and they got caught.   They have acknowledged it according to you but did they offer a retraction?  I don't know.   But they wanted so much for it to be a white guy that without even seen a pic they said it was possibly a white guy.   In your geology classes that you taught, I'm sure you said it was perfectly acceptable to identify a rock a person had not seen by saying this unknown mineral was possibly quartz.   I have not seen you and I could say you are possibly an asian cheese head.   I could be right.   I could be wrong.   What is the harm in saying it if I COULD be right?    That is your position and that is the wrong position.   If you don't know, you don't say.   That seems to be the way the world works in general.

mspart

You're right that it doesn't add much value to say he's "possibly" a specific color? So why get upset then if they say that, based upon some preliminary info that they got? I think it's hypocritical and petty that the wingers say that it isn't even worth providing that info but then complain  so loudly about it that it was "incorrect". I don't see how that preliminary report made one difference either way

[mspart]

They were setting it up for everyone to expect it was a white guy that shot people to death.   Like I said earlier, there is a thread on this board about how white conservatives are the most dangerous people.   This plays into that.   Somebody shot up people, must be a white guy.  Or is probably a white guy.   It portrays the political leanings of an individual that would do this.   CNN wants so badly to be politically in the middle yet just can't ween themselves off of this leftist ideology.  It is apparent and there for all to see.    That is what the fuss is about.   Another example of rapant leftist media doing what they do and leftists are saying - "What?   I don't see a problem.   Everyone knows most shooting crime is done by whites.  So he probably was white. "   We have an example of that right here in this thread.   

mspart

[red viking]

2 minutes ago, mspart said:

They were setting it up for everyone to expect it was a white guy that shot people to death.   Like I said earlier, there is a thread on this board about how white conservatives are the most dangerous people.   This plays into that.   Somebody shot up people, must be a white guy.  Or is probably a white guy.   It portrays the political leanings of an individual that would do this.   CNN wants so badly to be politically in the middle yet just can't ween themselves off of this leftist ideology.  It is apparent and there for all to see.    That is what the fuss is about.   Another example of rapant leftist media doing what they do and leftists are saying - "What?   I don't see a problem.   Everyone knows most shooting crime is done by whites.  So he probably was white. "   We have an example of that right here in this thread.   

mspart

First of all, you're making assumptions that they "want" it to be  white guy. 

Secondly, none of it matters when they continue to provide updates on their latest information and an hour later make it very clear that it was NOT a white guy. 

Absolutely zero harm done here. Wingers, as usual, getting their panties in a  bundle over absolutlely nothing and making ridiculous assumptions. 

[mspart]

Again, we have an example of the excuses right here in this thread.  

mspart

[Caveira]

1 hour ago, red viking said:

You're right that it doesn't add much value to say he's "possibly" a specific color?

There is another thread.  Called something like white people are the biggest threat to the us…. Where several people whine that some rando said the shooter in another thing is possibly Muslim.  

[red viking]

1 minute ago, Caveira said:

There is another thread.  Called something like white people are the biggest threat to the us…. Where several people whine that some rando said the shooter in another thing is possibly Muslim.  

If they got some preliminary info indicating that it was a Muslim then there's nothing wrong. If it was based upon absolutely nothing, then it would matter. Context matters, which is something the wingers dont' understand. 

[Offthemat]

I thought they first identified him as a white geologist. 

[Caveira]

7 minutes ago, red viking said:

If they got some preliminary info indicating that it was a Muslim then there's nothing wrong. If it was based upon absolutely nothing, then it would matter. Context matters, which is something the wingers dont' understand. 

There you go.   Your becoming way to objective lol 

[mspart]

5 minutes ago, red viking said:

If they got some preliminary info indicating that it was a Muslim then there's nothing wrong. If it was based upon absolutely nothing, then it would matter. Context matters, which is something the wingers dont' understand. 

Read what you just wrote.   Therein lies the issue.   Their comment was based on absolutely nothing, so it matters.   Context matters.   CNN didn't have it yet pontificated anyway.  You are truly lost trying to justify this and twisting yourself in knots right before all our eyes.  

mspart

[red viking]

1 minute ago, mspart said:

Read what you just wrote.   Therein lies the issue.   Their comment was based on absolutely nothing, so it matters.   Context matters.   CNN didn't have it yet pontificated anyway.  You are truly lost trying to justify this and twisting yourself in knots right before all our eyes.  

mspart

How do you know that it was based upon absolutely nothing. Wingers making assumptions again. 

[mspart]

2 hours ago, red viking said:

It's perfectly fine to say they "may" be the same color when you don't even have a pic of both of them yet. 

The wingers really getting their panties in a bundle over this one. 

Because you said so right here.   

mspart

[red viking]

26 minutes ago, mspart said:

Because you said so right here.   

mspart

That's yet another winger lie.  A dime a dozen. 

[mspart]

RV, you are one of a kind.   You typed the words, I directly quoted the words and you call it a lie.   All while maintaining your motives are pure. 

mspart

[red viking]

2 minutes ago, mspart said:

RV, you are one of a kind.   You typed the words, I directly quoted the words and you call it a lie.   All while maintaining your motives are pure. 

mspart

I said it was probably based upon some preliminary information that they had. That's different from no information at all. You need to brush up on reading comprehension. 

[El Luchador]

CNN had the images from the video, he was still on the loose and they are giving misleading information. A crazy killer is on the loose look out for white guys. 

[mspart]

58 minutes ago, red viking said:

I said it was probably based upon some preliminary information that they had. That's different from no information at all. You need to brush up on reading comprehension. 

No you said and I quote:  "It's perfectly fine to say they "may" be the same color when you don't even have a pic of both of them yet. "

You play fast and loose with he facts there RV. 

mspart

[red viking]

5 minutes ago, mspart said:

No you said and I quote:  "It's perfectly fine to say they "may" be the same color when you don't even have a pic of both of them yet. "

You play fast and loose with he facts there RV. 

mspart

Look elsewhere. I implied that they probably based it upon preliminary info. READ

[mspart]

You try and try and just keep digging deeper and deeper. 

mspart

[El Luchador]

15 minutes ago, red viking said:

Look elsewhere. I implied that they probably based it upon preliminary info. READ

The video was available and they made the statement with the information. They were the only ones to make this claim. They continue to be a garbage news organization.  Liberal bias comes with low intelligence. When you hire low intelligence people you get bad reporting. They fail as a network because of their people.  

[El Luchador]

5 millions people in America are severely mentally handicapped, of those 5 million only 10% are dumb enough to watch CNN.

Edited Tuesday at 10:32 PM by El Luchador

[mspart]

15 minutes ago, El Luchador said:

The video was available and they made the statement with the information. They were the only ones to make this claim. They continue to be a garbage news organization.  Liberal bias comes with low intelligence. When you hire low intelligence people you get bad reporting. They fail as a network because of their people.  

But they have degrees!!!

mspart

[Lipdrag]

Why did CNN use He pronouns?  KBJ’s biologist had not confirmed it yet.  Any responsible journalist would have thrown possibly in there also.  Or the very useful “ may or may not” which covers 100%of all possibilities in every single instance.

[Undefeated]

How come his skin color isn’t known, but his religion is?

[GreatWhiteNorth]

1 hour ago, Undefeated said:

How come his skin color isn’t known, but his religion is?

Probably trying to decide if he should be deported.

ICE is only focused on identifying and deporting those from south of the border (weird, right?)

Apparently, for now, Trump's Project 2025 people only seek to deport Mexicans and Central/South Americans.

What about violent gangs and criminals who are white, black, asian, or middle eastern, etc? Why are they being ignored with this ICE effort?

None of it makes any sense at all.

• If they wanted to deport criminals, why only from certain countries?
  • Plenty of criminals from other countries, and plenty of white criminals born and raised in the US.
  • Why cherry pick certain folks and ignore certain other folks? (It's to try to justify his 'border' politics.)
• A large percentage of those currently being deported aren't actually criminals at all.
  • Again, it's not about criminal behavior, it's about the 'border' politics.
  • And the fact that the wall that was promised to be built in 2014 was never built and it was a gigantic, miserable failure. This isn't law enforcement in any way, shape, or form. This is a diversion to keep people from realizing how big of a failure Trump has been with his border promises.

[Undefeated]

1 hour ago, GreatWhiteNorth said:

Probably trying to decide if he should be deported.

ICE is only focused on identifying and deporting those from south of the border (weird, right?)

Apparently, for now, Trump's Project 2025 people only seek to deport Mexicans and Central/South Americans.

What about violent gangs and criminals who are white, black, asian, or middle eastern, etc? Why are they being ignored with this ICE effort?

None of it makes any sense at all.

• If they wanted to deport criminals, why only from certain countries?
  • Plenty of criminals from other countries, and plenty of white criminals born and raised in the US.
  • Why cherry pick certain folks and ignore certain other folks? (It's to try to justify his 'border' politics.)
• A large percentage of those currently being deported aren't actually criminals at all.
  • Again, it's not about criminal behavior, it's about the 'border' politics.
  • And the fact that the wall that was promised to be built in 2014 was never built and it was a gigantic, miserable failure. This isn't law enforcement in any way, shape, or form. This is a diversion to keep people from realizing how big of a failure Trump has been with his border promises.

Totally agree with you. But at the same time, it kinda makes sense that - for now at least - ICE is more focused on the southern border.

I mean, how likely is it that dangerous criminals or drug cartels are sneaking into the U.S. from the Middle East? Probably close to zero.

They can’t really cross the border illegally - those countries don’t border the U.S - and even when it was easier for folks from that region to come to the U.S. legally, most of them were either wealthy or highly educated - like grad students going to top U.S. universities.