Somebody's cleaning up

[Tripnsweep]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5415338-epstein-attorney-roy-black-dies/amp/

[Tripnsweep]

Where's the conspiracy wackos? 

[headshuck]

Could he have been on the Epstein probe subpoena list with Bill and Hillary and others? You’re welcome.

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[Caveira]

1 hour ago, headshuck said:

Could he have been on the Epstein probe subpoena list with Bill and Hillary and others? You’re welcome.

 

 

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Is she off the tranquilizers?

[uncle bernard]

1 hour ago, headshuck said:

Could he have been on the Epstein probe subpoena list with Bill and Hillary and others? You’re welcome.

 

 

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The funny part about this is the Republicans on the committee added the Clintons to the subpoena to try to tank it and the Dems called their bluff and accepted it.

It's deeply pathetic how in denial you all are about this.

[headshuck]

Back to the topic, any thoughts on the recent death of the Epstein attorney?

[Tripnsweep]

22 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

The funny part about this is the Republicans on the committee added the Clintons to the subpoena to try to tank it and the Dems called their bluff and accepted it.

It's deeply pathetic how in denial you all are about this.

Even though Clinton was a very good president, I'm not blinded into thinking if he did something wrong with being involved with Epstein that it's not a big deal or he should escape consequences. I can't say the same for people who support Trump here. 

[WrestlingRasta]

He was 80 years old, has been battling illness for some time, and died at home with his family.   

Why always looking for something to get all rolled up about???  Is that an enjoyable way to live life?

[El Luchador]

1 hour ago, Tripnsweep said:

Even though Clinton was a very good president, I'm not blinded into thinking if he did something wrong with being involved with Epstein that it's not a big deal or he should escape consequences. I can't say the same for people who support Trump here. 

Without starting a new debate, what made Bill a very good president?

[Caveira]

1 hour ago, Tripnsweep said:

Even though Clinton was a very good president, I'm not blinded into thinking if he did something wrong with being involved with Epstein that it's not a big deal or he should escape consequences. I can't say the same for people who support Trump here. 

You can for the record this.   Anyone.  Trump included who raped little girls should rot in prison.  

[JimmySpeaks]

1 hour ago, Tripnsweep said:

Even though Clinton was a very good president, I'm not blinded into thinking if he did something wrong with being involved with Epstein that it's not a big deal or he should escape consequences. I can't say the same for people who support Trump here. 

Again you’re full of and a LIAR.  Release the list and hold EVERYONE ON IT ACCOUNTABLE.  Bill, Obama, the prince and the Orange Man can all share a cell.  

[JimmySpeaks]

21 minutes ago, Caveira said:

You can for the record this.   Anyone.  Trump included who raped little girls should rot in prison.  

Slip N Tweet has those selective reading skills out in full force AGAIN 

[red viking]

1 hour ago, headshuck said:

Back to the topic, any thoughts on the recent death of the Epstein attorney?

No. There's attorney client privilege so it would be tough to get much from the attorney.  

[uncle bernard]

1 hour ago, El Luchador said:

Without starting a new debate, what made Bill a very good president?

I don't agree that he was a very good president, but he did a lot of things that Conservatives say they like, specifically tough on crime and ran a surplus.

[El Luchador]

22 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

I don't agree that he was a very good president, but he did a lot of things that Conservatives say they like, specifically tough on crime and ran a surplus.

He had a Republican congress for a time where he had to compromise and they were able to get legislation through. I do remember that, but I really can't think of any great policies he had. Overall times were decent but I don't think he had much to do with it.  Between him and Bush, their long term consequences we bad for America.

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[uncle bernard]

6 minutes ago, El Luchador said:

He had a Republican congress for a time where he had to compromise and they were able to get legislation through. I do remember that, but I really can't think of any great policies he had. Overall times were decent but I don't think he had much to do with it.  Between him and Bush, their long term consequences we bad for America.

Without question.

He also marked the death of the Democratic Party as a labor-focused party. Clinton led the Neoliberal turn to the right on economics, which severely damaged the Dems influence with working class voters, and ultimately (ironically) culminated in Trump's victory over Hillary.

[JimmySpeaks]

At least Bill understood that communism needed to be slowed down. 

[mspart]

4 hours ago, uncle bernard said:

Without question.

He also marked the death of the Democratic Party as a labor-focused party. Clinton led the Neoliberal turn to the right on economics, which severely damaged the Dems influence with working class voters, and ultimately (ironically) culminated in Trump's victory over Hillary.

That's a stretch.   It didn't hurt Obama.  Hillary was a horrible candidate by all accounts.  She was rejected, it had nothing to do with her hubby. 

mspart

[uncle bernard]

20 hours ago, mspart said:

That's a stretch.   It didn't hurt Obama.  Hillary was a horrible candidate by all accounts.  She was rejected, it had nothing to do with her hubby. 

mspart

Of course she was a horrible candidate. Those things aren't mutually exclusive. She shares the same political vision as her husband and ran on that vision. She was the archetypal corporate democrat.

Obama succeeded because he ran against it in 2008 (go back and watch how viciously he attacked her in the primary) and then was a uniquely charismatic figure that was able to hold his coalition together via his own personality. It helped that he only had to clear the Bush admin bar of not starting another global financial meltdown or disastrous war. Him selling out the vision he sold was another major blow to the old democrat coalition. People forget that Obama won a state like Indiana. Unthinkable now for any democrat.

[mspart]

Bush affected Obama's first election.   I don't see how Bush or Clinton affected Hillarys election loss.   That was all on her.

mspart

[uncle bernard]

55 minutes ago, mspart said:

Bush affected Obama's first election.   I don't see how Bush or Clinton affected Hillarys election loss.   That was all on her.

mspart

You’re being needlessly obtuse. Do you think I’m trying to provide an excuse for her? I’m not. 
 

Bill Clinton spearheaded the Democratic turn right on economics that led to a steady 30 year-long decline in performance amongst working class, populist voters that used to vote Dem pretty reliably. Trump’s victory was the culmination of that process and a complete rebuke to the neoliberal wing of the Democratic Party. Sanders’ success in the primary among that same demographic was an early warning sign of what was happening. 

[mspart]

Pinning the woes of the Ds on Slick Willie is being really obtuse.  

mspart