Alligator Alcatraz

[WrestlingRasta]

13 minutes ago, red viking said:

Wingers couldn't be more hypocritical. Few if any of us have only copulated for solely reproductive purposes. Removal of the fetus is independent of killing the fetus. It just so happens that the fetus can't survive before a certain time but that doesn't change the fact that the woman has the right to remove it. 

There are zero other situations where somebody is forced to provide life support to somebody else. It's clearly wrong and violates the natural laws of God. The logical and correct decision here is to be consistent and allow pregnant women to also have this right. 

It's all very logical and obvious to anybody with half a brain and that has read the various documents written by the Founding Fathers. Roe v. Wade makes that clear. That decision was made back in the day before we had activist political hack judges running our country.

I’m not arguing the right to abortion so much as making point of your stupid arguments for it, like dying on the hill of “forced to provide life support for someone else”.  Thats just a dumb statement you keep repeating over and over again.  But then again, since you’re on the vibe of what god did and did create….he also created the ability to be dumb, so… 

Edited Tuesday at 06:20 PM by WrestlingRasta

[Offthemat]

13 minutes ago, red viking said:

It's all very logical and obvious to anybody with half a brain

I see the problem here. 

[JimmySpeaks]

3 hours ago, WrestlingRasta said:

It wasn't missed, it was just floating in a sea of what amounts to "I know you are but what am I", and then continued by the other half of the angry little fellaS (I know its summer school time, but you should still remember that an 's' on the end indicates plurality).   

But you're still so damn adorable!!

And there’s Mr feel’’’’’S responding to something he says he avoids and doesn’t interact with.  
 

AGAIN 

[JimmySpeaks]

3 hours ago, WrestlingRasta said:

It wasn't missed, it was just floating in a sea of what amounts to "I know you are but what am I", and then continued by the other half of the angry little fellaS (I know its summer school time, but you should still remember that an 's' on the end indicates plurality).   

But you're still so damn adorable!!

My comment was a get back on track comment before yours was.  I just didn’t have to announce mine while patting myself on the back like you did.  
 

Yep. ADORABLE.  but sorry I’m taken.  

[Offthemat]

1 hour ago, red viking said:

Removal of the fetus is independent of killing the fetus.

This is not true, either.  So many abortions consist of sadistically dismembering the baby’s body.  Taking it out piece by piece.  You are terribly ignorant on this subject.  
 

Fact Sheet: Dismemberment Abortion

https://lozierinstitute.org/fact-sheet-dismemberment-abortion/

Edited Tuesday at 07:50 PM by Offthemat

[152lbs]

Some of you are a little too cool with concentration camps.

[Offthemat]

5 minutes ago, 152lbs said:

Some of you are a little too cool with concentration camps.

Some of us know the definition of concentration camps. 

[152lbs]

This facility fits the definition.

[Offthemat]

23 minutes ago, 152lbs said:

This facility fits the definition.

Nope.  It fits the definition of a holding facility for deportees. 

[mspart]

23 minutes ago, 152lbs said:

This facility fits the definition.

How so?

mspart

[152lbs]

In every sense.  It may not be extermination camp but it very much is a concentration camp.

[mspart]

You did not provide the definition that you say it adheres to.   Please bring some background to your assertion. 

mspart

[JimmySpeaks]

3 hours ago, 152lbs said:

Some of you are a little too cool with concentration camps.

Look who’s back at the airport. Announced you were leaving yet took a return flight.  Bahahahahahahahhaa

[JimmySpeaks]

2 hours ago, 152lbs said:

In every sense.  It may not be extermination camp but it very much is a concentration camp.

It’s called prison. 

[WrestlingRasta]

9 hours ago, JimmySpeaks said:

And there’s Mr feel’’’’’S responding to something he says he avoids and doesn’t interact with.  
 

AGAIN 

Adorable, angry, and obviously confused. 

[WrestlingRasta]

6 hours ago, 152lbs said:

In every sense.  It may not be extermination camp but it very much is a concentration camp.

The measure will be whether or not innocent people end up there.  If people end up there for no other reason than they are foreign, then you might be onto something.  If it’s strictly the illegals (they’re saying just the violent illegals but we’ll see about that), then it’s simply a detention center while they await their hearing. Supposedly there is going to be judge, maybe judges, on site to get to these hearings efficiently.  That, too, will be interesting to see if comes to fruition. 

[JimmySpeaks]

6 hours ago, WrestlingRasta said:

Adorable, angry, and obviously confused. 

Stop hitting on me. I’m married. 

[WrestlingRasta]

The first 1000 expected to arrive at 10am

[uncle bernard]

15 hours ago, mspart said:

You did not provide the definition that you say it adheres to.   Please bring some background to your assertion. 

mspart

1. a place where large numbers of people, especially political prisoners or members of persecuted minorities, are deliberately imprisoned in a relatively small area with inadequate facilities, sometimes to provide forced labor or to await mass execution. The term is most strongly associated with the several hundred camps established by the Nazis in Germany and occupied Europe in 1933–45, among the most infamous being Dachau, Belsen, and Auschwitz.

    

   All death camps are concentration camps, but not all concentration camps are death camps. The term concentration camp originates from the Boer Wars in South Africa where the English interned thousands of Boer civilians in guarded camps. They did not carry out mass executions, but many died from disease in the camps.

    

   A more appropriate comparison would be the Japanese internment camps during WWII. It's a mass detention camp, guarded by soldiers and barbed wire, with very unclear legal processes at play within. It's a very clear cut example of a concentration camp according to the actual definition.

    

   For most Americans, the concept of "concentration camps" is so strongly associated with the Nazi's that they aren't aware of the difference between a concentration camp and a death camp. This is not Auschwitz, but it's still a concentration camp.

[ionel]

1 hour ago, WrestlingRasta said:

The first 1000 expected to arrive at 10am

Are there enough alligators?  

[Bigbrog]

33 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

a place where large numbers of people, especially political prisoners or members of persecuted minorities, are deliberately imprisoned in a relatively small area with inadequate facilities, sometimes to provide forced labor or to await mass execution. The term is most strongly associated with the several hundred camps established by the Nazis in Germany and occupied Europe in 1933–45, among the most infamous being Dachau, Belsen, and Auschwitz.

 

All death camps are concentration camps, but not all concentration camps are death camps. The term concentration camp originates from the Boer Wars in South Africa where the English interned thousands of Boer civilians in guarded camps. They did not carry out mass executions, but many died from disease in the camps.

 

A more appropriate comparison would be the Japanese internment camps during WWII. It's a mass detention camp, guarded by soldiers and barbed wire, with very unclear legal processes at play within. It's a very clear cut example of a concentration camp according to the actual definition.

 

For most Americans, the concept of "concentration camps" is so strongly associated with the Nazi's that they aren't aware of the difference between a concentration camp and a death camp. This is not Auschwitz, but it's still a concentration camp

So you think the Alligator Alcatraz is what you just described??  SMH...you like RV are such disingenuous posters and have such a skewed perception of things just because of political ideology.  

[ionel]

36 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

1. a place where large numbers of people, especially political prisoners or members of persecuted minorities, are deliberately imprisoned in a relatively small area with inadequate facilities, sometimes to provide forced labor or to await mass execution. The term is most strongly associated with the several hundred camps established by the Nazis in Germany and occupied Europe in 1933–45, among the most infamous being Dachau, Belsen, and Auschwitz.

    

   All death camps are concentration camps, but not all concentration camps are death camps. The term concentration camp originates from the Boer Wars in South Africa where the English interned thousands of Boer civilians in guarded camps. They did not carry out mass executions, but many died from disease in the camps.

    

   A more appropriate comparison would be the Japanese internment camps during WWII. It's a mass detention camp, guarded by soldiers and barbed wire, with very unclear legal processes at play within. It's a very clear cut example of a concentration camp according to the actual definition.

    

   For most Americans, the concept of "concentration camps" is so strongly associated with the Nazi's that they aren't aware of the difference between a concentration camp and a death camp. This is not Auschwitz, but it's still a concentration camp.

What kind of "forced labor" are they gonna do in the swamp? 

[uncle bernard]

18 minutes ago, ionel said:

What kind of "forced labor" are they gonna do in the swamp? 

"sometimes"

[uncle bernard]

22 minutes ago, Bigbrog said:

So you think the Alligator Alcatraz is what you just described??  SMH...you like RV are such disingenuous posters and have such a skewed perception of things just because of political ideology.  

Yeah, they're packing thousands of people, many of whom haven't had due process, into a camp full of  cages in the middle of Florida summer.

Generally, when you pack thousands of people into a camp for a political purpose (the majority of these people have committed the equivalent of a speeding ticket), while using it for political show, producing merchandise and making a joke about prisoners being eaten by alligators, yeah...I think that qualifies as a concentration camp. 

Like everything with Trump, the cruelty of the spectacle is the point. They could accomplish these mass deportations in a much more humane way (he still hasn't deported as many people as Obama), but the whole point is that his base gets off on the cruelty. You enjoy seeing people you don't like suffer.

[JimmySpeaks]

3 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

 

 (the majority of these people have committed the equivalent of a speeding ticket)

Please define what the equivalent of a speeding ticket means and then show some proof.