Brooks story: True or False?

[Husker_Du]

12 hours ago, BigRedFan said:

A billion Muslims would like a word.

can you explain what this means?

[BruceyB]

4 hours ago, Doublehalf said:

To this point- I had a flashback of Roger Clement's blaming his wife for the HGH he had...

Im not sure I can think of one person who was caught cheating in which their first response was "Oops, you got me!"

They deny deny deny until it goes away or they can't anymore and that's just the way it's been forever. Where there is this much smoke there is usually fire and anyone not looking at his story with a ton of skepticism is being naive.. His views and comments on others in the past (Specifically DT for me) has earned him no benefit of the doubt from me.

You know it's bad when C.P. is skeptical on a public format. I'm not faulting Flo for being hesitant to make comments, but when nothing concrete has come out and Pyles is essentially saying this doesn't look good.. you know it really doesn't look good.

[BruceyB]

1 hour ago, Husker_Du said:

can you explain what this means?

You know exactly what this means.. or you're terrible at your job. Take your pick. Smfh.

[Wrasslin]

14 hours ago, BigRedFan said:

A billion Muslims would like a word.

 

2 hours ago, Husker_Du said:

can you explain what this means?

 

1 hour ago, BruceyB said:

You know exactly what this means.. or you're terrible at your job. Take your pick. Smfh.

With all due respect, I'd like an explanation too- I don't exactly get it. Also, I'm terrible at my job! 

[BigRedFan]

5 hours ago, Husker_Du said:

can you explain what this means?

 

[Caveira]

8 hours ago, Husker_Du said:

can you explain what this means?

Just a guess 

Following a wrestling victory, Aaron Brooks, a Penn State athlete, stated during a post-match interview that his success was due to his Christian faith and thanked Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit

. He then added, "...no false prophets, no Muhammad or anyone else, only Jesus Christ himself...". This statement was seen as a disparagement of the Islamic Prophet Muhammad by some. 

The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) in Philadelphia called Brooks' remark "unnecessary and inappropriate" and stated that while they commended athletes for expressing their faith, it was wrong to denigrate Islam while representing a diverse student body. CAIR encouraged Brooks to engage with the Muslim community at Penn State to build understanding and learn to respectfully disagree. The NCAA also deleted a video of the interview containing these comments from their Twitter feed. 

[Husker_Du]

i'm aware of the 'no false prophets' quip.

but the 'a billion muslims would like a word' was in response to 'why so much hate on Brooks'.

i don't see the hate for brooks coming from 'a billion muslims.'

and i saw the hate for brooks long before that incident. 

 

 

[Ohio Elite]

25 minutes ago, Husker_Du said:

i'm aware of the 'no false prophets' quip.

but the 'a billion muslims would like a word' was in response to 'why so much hate on Brooks'.

i don't see the hate for brooks coming from 'a billion muslims.'

and i saw the hate for brooks long before that incident. 

 

 

I didn't realize that many Muslims watched the NCAA finals. Ratings must have been through the roof that year...

[Hammerlock3]

28 minutes ago, Ohio Elite said:

I didn't realize that many Muslims watched the NCAA finals. Ratings must have been through the roof that year...

well sorry but its not muslims its left wing lunatics, and brooks has built in protection against them.

[Caveira]

1 hour ago, Ohio Elite said:

I didn't realize that many Muslims watched the NCAA finals. Ratings must have been through the roof that year...

I didn’t realize a billion Muslims read French satirical newspapers either but …. 12 dead people including 8 journalists later seem to have noticed. 

[BigRedFan]

2 hours ago, Husker_Du said:

i'm aware of the 'no false prophets' quip.

but the 'a billion muslims would like a word' was in response to 'why so much hate on Brooks'.

i don't see the hate for brooks coming from 'a billion muslims.'

and i saw the hate for brooks long before that incident. 

 

 

Here's your post to which I replied.  Note that the word "hate" doesn't appear in your post, but there's another descriptor that appears a couple of times.  I highlighted it for your convenience.

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What's the basis for tagging the "asshole" label on Brooks, besides his misfortune of having gone to a college that kicked everyone's butt?  I could do without his Christian proselytizing too but he's entitled to his views and I'm entitled to mine. You may find his outward religiosity cringey but a-hole is a stretch.

I have to say that your use of the word "quip" to describe Brooks' insult of the Prophet Mohammed and his followers to be, uh, interesting.

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[Husker_Du]

move goalposts all you want.

the hate isn't coming from muslims ffs. 

[BigRedFan]

2 minutes ago, Husker_Du said:

move goalposts all you want.

the hate isn't coming from muslims ffs. 

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but the 'a billion muslims would like a word' was in response to 'why so much hate on Brooks'.

No it wasn't.  It was in response to you wondering why so many think he's an a-hole.

[Husker_Du]

you're all over the place.

i never 'wondered' in this thread why there was hate on Brooks.

all i 'wondered' was what you meant by 'a billion muslims'

and i'm still wondering b/c it still no sense. 

[BigRedFan]

8 minutes ago, Husker_Du said:

you're all over the place.

i never 'wondered' in this thread why there was hate on Brooks.

all i 'wondered' was what you meant by 'a billion muslims'

and i'm still wondering b/c it still no sense. 

My apologies for wrongly thinking you were defending what you originally wrote, when it was BAC who wondered where all the hate came from.  Everything I wrote still stands if you correct the references to you.

You don't think that Muslims would take offense at Brooks' calling the Prophet Mohammed a false prophet?  And you still think that was just a "quip?"

[Husker_Du]

'quip' was the wrong word choice, i'll give you that.

but again, the hate (at least that i see) isn't coming en masse from muslims.

 

 

[wrestlingfan22]

I will try to clear this up:

Someone asked why Brooks is considered to be an ahole

BigRed made the billion Muslims remark as an example of why people would not like Brooks. Many Muslims and non-Muslims did not like the Muhammad comment, and also don't like his general preachy quality (especially when coupled with his mess-ups and criticizing other religions). 

Willie thought he was saying the hate is coming from Muslims, when they make small population of American wrestling fans, which would make no sense. 

 

To me, BigRed appears to be using the Muhammad comment as an example of how Brooks rubs many people (of all religions) the wrong way, which is why some people would consider him to be an ahole or hate on him. 

 

Either of you can correct me if I am misunderstanding your perspective. 

[Caveira]

Weird 

Yes, Aaron Brooks, a Penn State wrestler, faced significant criticism from Muslim communities and advocacy groups following comments he made after winning his third consecutive NCAA title in March 2023.youtube.com+5decisionmagazine.com+5deadspin.com+5

During a post-match interview on ESPN, Brooks attributed his success to his Christian faith and stated, "No false prophets, no Muhammad nor anyone else. Only Jesus Christ himself."  This remark was widely perceived as disrespectful toward Islam and the Prophet Muhammad.cair.com+3independent.co.uk+3deadspin.com+3emgageusa.org+1yahoo.com+1

In response, organizations such as Emgage and the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) condemned Brooks' comments. Emgage described the remarks as "unacceptable" and harmful to Muslim students and staff at Penn State.CAIR-Philadelphia invited Brooks to engage with the Muslim community to foster understanding and address the offense caused. emgageusa.org+1independent.co.uk+1cair.com

The NCAA initially shared the interview clip on its official Twitter account, which led to further backlash. After criticism, the NCAA deleted the tweet. CAIR-Philadelphia welcomed this action but emphasized the need for broader institutional support for the Muslim community.cair.com+4independent.co.uk+4deadspin.com+4deadspin.com+1cair.com+1cair.com+1cair.com+1

While Brooks did not issue a public apology, he later posted Bible verses on Instagram, including John 15:18, which discusses being hated by the world, suggesting he felt misunderstood or persecuted. decisionmagazine.com

In summary, Brooks' comments led to significant criticism from Muslim communities and advocacy groups, who viewed his remarks as disrespectful and called for engagement and dialogue to address the issue.

 

 

[Window12]

26 minutes ago, BigRedFan said:

 

You don't think that Muslims would take offense at Brooks' calling the Prophet Mohammed a false prophet?  And you still think that was just a "quip?"

I believe Aaron Brooks brother-Mozzafar- who is a Muslim convert -went on for 1 minute 40 seconds without taking a breath trying to express his indignation about his brother false profit claim. The crowd loved him too…

 

 

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[BigRedFan]

9 minutes ago, wrestlingfan22 said:

I will try to clear this up:

Someone asked why Brooks is considered to be an ahole

BigRed made the billion Muslims remark as an example of why people would not like Brooks. Many Muslims and non-Muslims did not like the Muhammad comment, and also don't like his general preachy quality (especially when coupled with his mess-ups and criticizing other religions). 

Willie thought he was saying the hate is coming from Muslims, when they make small population of American wrestling fans, which would make no sense. 

 

To me, BigRed appears to be using the Muhammad comment as an example of how Brooks rubs many people (of all religions) the wrong way, which is why some people would consider him to be an ahole or hate on him. 

 

Either of you can correct me if I am misunderstanding your perspective. 

Accurate from my perspective.  The (internet) expression "<insert person/group> would like a word" has never meant "<person/group> literally takes offense at this particular statement."  A stupid example would be if I said "Kyle Dake is the only Cornell wrestler to win four NCAA titles," then someone would come back with "Yianni would like a word" without it meaning that Yianni ever saw me make that statement.