Is this acceptable? Is this smart?

[Scouts Honor]

1 hour ago, 1032004 said:

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He said the lights weren’t on until he was already parked and reaching for something under the seat.

 

To take a picture of the license plate…

the office knew this... 

no.

this is where sneaking up comes in. the officer has no idea what's in this lunatics head.

 

[Scouts Honor]

1 hour ago, 1032004 said:

Lol.

The person did nothing to indicate he posed any danger, despite you stating definitively he was a “violent protester.” 

 

except sneak up on people in a car...

[1032004]

Just now, Scouts Honor said:

the office knew this... 

no.

this is where sneaking up comes in. the officer has no idea what's in this lunatics head.

 

I think the only question that needs to be asked is this: if the officer shot him, would the officer be charged with a crime?

IANAL, but I’d bet yes.

[Scouts Honor]

1 hour ago, Caveira said:

you have no idea his intent as the police chased him away.    And you are wrong… he did “nothing”.   “Nothing” is not approaching the car crouched in a very suspicious manner.   it is that suspicious af behavior gives reason to be worried wtf is that guy doing in the middle of live traffic right behind my car.   

You are probably one of those that think you shouldn’t be able to use a gun to defend your property in your home from home invaders.  

officer, i just wanted to give you this gun, but didn't want anyone else to see me approaching you...

[Scouts Honor]

1 minute ago, 1032004 said:

I think the only question that needs to be asked is this: if the officer shot him, would the officer be charged with a crime?

IANAL, but I’d bet yes.

FAFO

[Caveira]

I mean we know his intentions were shyte.  Any other explanation is not realistic.  
 

with that said.  It sure would have  been funny …. If he “didn’t see him” and reversed to change lanes and bonked him in the head a little.   

[Scouts Honor]

44 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

If he really thought he was in danger, he should have just drove away.  Especially if the vehicle was actually equipped with sirens so that he could easily run the red light.  If the “danger” is on foot and you’re in a running vehicle, getting out of the car seems stupid.  

You can use a gun to defend your property from home invaders.  Not if someone knocks on your door like Andrew Lester did to Ralph Yarl.  So you’re kinda proving my point: crouching behind a car is not remotely comparable to breaking into a home.

hmm the police should have driven away. that doesn't make any sense.

maybe he did something to the car... that would make driving unsafe...

[Scouts Honor]

Trump voter dies on every democrat hill.

[1032004]

7 minutes ago, Caveira said:

I mean we know his intentions were shyte.  Any other explanation is not realistic.  
 

with that said.  It sure would have  been funny …. If he “didn’t see him” and reversed to change lanes and bonked him in the head a little.   

Suggesting taking a picture of a license plate is punishable by death, nice 

[1032004]

7 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said:

hmm the police should have driven away. that doesn't make any sense.

maybe he did something to the car... that would make driving unsafe...

You think it’s possible the guy “did something to the car” and wasn’t immediately arrested?

[Scouts Honor]

they didn't know what he was doing you dolt.

[Caveira]

7 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Suggesting taking a picture of a license plate is punishable by death, nice 

A bonk isn’t killing him.  What if Leo legitimately didn’t see him the mfer was doing his best to hide in his blind spot. 

[WrestlingRasta]

Some people sure do like to be angry around here.   

[scourge165]

8 hours ago, Caveira said:

You’re just being ridiculous.  The officer did nothing wrong.  If this were Fallujah like you alluded to that idiot would be dead.  
 

where do the police get the impression violent rioters mean them harm.  I have no idea…. it’s probably a figment of their imagination right?

Ok... so you don't believe in the 1st amendment. 

Got it. 

 

The people who carry the little constitution to show how much they love their Country, they just piss on it time and time again when they continue to  justify eroding the rights of those you don't agree with. 

-In public

-Filming

Both explicitly and adjudicated to be LEGAL 1st Amendment PROTECTED speech, but you think it's justified to point a gun at a guy at him for that?

 

That's...certainly AN opinion. Lining up so consistently with the right's blatant hypocrisy here. 

[scourge165]

2 hours ago, Caveira said:

I mean we know his intentions were shyte.  Any other explanation is not realistic.  
 

with that said.  It sure would have  been funny …. If he “didn’t see him” and reversed to change lanes and bonked him in the head a little.   

"Any other explanation is not realistic?"

A-Again, he doesn't need ANY explanation, what he's doing is objectively legal and protected 1st amendment activity. 

B-If that's a State Vehicle, it's entirely possible he wanted information about who was driving for any number of reasons, the most obvious being to file a complaint. 

 

And it's clear the guy KNOWS he's in the wrong given how quickly he jumps back into his car and is out of there. 

But you actually have some takes that are SO stupid that...he could have "backed up to change lanes." Because that's normal driving and legal!

[Caveira]

2 minutes ago, scourge165 said:

"Any other explanation is not realistic?"

A-Again, he doesn't need ANY explanation, what he's doing is objectively legal and protected 1st amendment activity. 

B-If that's a State Vehicle, it's entirely possible he wanted information about who was driving for any number of reasons, the most obvious being to file a complaint. 

 

And it's clear the guy KNOWS he's in the wrong given how quickly he jumps back into his car and is out of there. 

But you actually have some takes that are SO stupid that...he could have "backed up to change lanes." Because that's normal driving and legal! 

 

 

 

 

1. NYPD Detectives Rafael Ramos & Wenjian Liu – Brooklyn, NY (Dec 20, 2014)

Both officers were shot execution-style while seated in their marked patrol car by an assailant who then killed himself newyorker.com+15odmp.org+15ksl.com+15.

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2. NYPD Officer Edward Byrne – Queens, NY (Feb 26, 1988)

Officer Byrne was gunned down in his patrol car while guarding a witness’s home en.wikipedia.org+1nypost.com+1.

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3. Detective Timothy Brenton – Seattle, WA (Oct 31, 2009)

Brenton was mortally wounded by rifle fire while seated in a stationary patrol car during a traffic stop en.wikipedia.org.

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4. Officer Miosotis Familia – Bronx, NY (Jul 5, 2017)

Shot through a window of a command vehicle, Officer Familia died from the head wound en.wikipedia.org+15washingtonpost.com+15ucr.fbi.gov+15.

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5. Detectives Justin Martin & Anthony Beminio – Iowa (Nov 2, 2016)

Two officers were found shot and killed while inside their squad cars in Urbandale and Des Moines—likely ambush-style attacks cnn.com+4time.com+4ksl.com+4.

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6. Detective Benjamin Marconi – San Antonio, TX (Nov 20, 2016)

Marconi was seated in his marked patrol car, writing a ticket, when he was shot in the head by a passing motorist en.wikipedia.org+1en.wikipedia.org+1.

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7. State Trooper – Sidney, NY (May 29, 2024)

A New York State trooper was killed when a vehicle swerved deliberately off the road into the patrol car, resulting in fatal injuries .

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8. Officer Jesse Hartnett (Attempt only) – Philadelphia, PA (Jan 7, 2016)

Shot at point-blank range through his car window by an assailant with extremist motives; Hartnett survived ucr.fbi.gov+15en.wikipedia.org+15apnnews.com+15.

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9. Officer Justin Hare – Albuquerque, NM (Mar 15, 2024)

Hare was shot while seated in his patrol car during a welfare check; his assailant activated the car and fled ksl.com+12en.wikipedia.org+12apnews.com+12.

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10. Officer (Unnamed NC trooper) – Sidney, NY (Repeat?)

Separate from the May 29 incident, another New York State Trooper was intentionally killed after pulling over a vehicle; a truck struck and dragged him to death 

11. Fresno, CA – October 28, 2024

A Fresno PD sergeant was ambushed and shot while seated in his cruiser. The shooter pulled up alongside and opened fire, striking the officer. The sergeant survived and returned fire; the assailant was killed en.wikipedia.org+5police1.com+5foxnews.com+5.

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12. Oakland County, MI – June 22–23, 2024

Deputy Bradley Reckling, from the Oakland County Sheriff’s Office, was in an unmarked car following a stolen vehicle when suspects opened fire, killing him clickondetroit.com+1police1.com+1.

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13. Summit, MS – March 18, 2025

Officer Troy Floyd of Summit PD was killed during a routine traffic stop while seated in his patrol car. A passenger in the vehicle opened fire, fatally wounding him incarcernation.com.

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14. Albuquerque, NM – March 15, 2024

New Mexico State Police Officer Justin Hare was conducting a welfare check when the suspect exited a stopped car and shot him at close range. The suspect then fled in the patrol vehicle clickondetroit.com+12en.wikipedia.org+12reddit.com+12.

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15. San Antonio, TX – November 20, 2016

Detective Benjamin Marconi was writing a ticket in his marked squad car when a passing motorist stopped, walked up to the window, and fatally shot him 

 

police have the right to see which idiot is crouching behind their car in moving traffic…. He did nothing wrong and you know it.  I know you hate police.  They’re deporting your favorite illegals.   Whatever boss.  Your wrong. 

[Scouts Honor]

come on.. all those were just some guy taking a picture of the license plate

[scourge165]

2 hours ago, Caveira said:

 

 

 

 

1. NYPD Detectives Rafael Ramos & Wenjian Liu – Brooklyn, NY (Dec 20, 2014)

Both officers were shot execution-style while seated in their marked patrol car by an assailant who then killed himself newyorker.com+15odmp.org+15ksl.com+15.

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2. NYPD Officer Edward Byrne – Queens, NY (Feb 26, 1988)

Officer Byrne was gunned down in his patrol car while guarding a witness’s home en.wikipedia.org+1nypost.com+1.

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3. Detective Timothy Brenton – Seattle, WA (Oct 31, 2009)

Brenton was mortally wounded by rifle fire while seated in a stationary patrol car during a traffic stop en.wikipedia.org.

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4. Officer Miosotis Familia – Bronx, NY (Jul 5, 2017)

Shot through a window of a command vehicle, Officer Familia died from the head wound en.wikipedia.org+15washingtonpost.com+15ucr.fbi.gov+15.

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5. Detectives Justin Martin & Anthony Beminio – Iowa (Nov 2, 2016)

Two officers were found shot and killed while inside their squad cars in Urbandale and Des Moines—likely ambush-style attacks cnn.com+4time.com+4ksl.com+4.

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6. Detective Benjamin Marconi – San Antonio, TX (Nov 20, 2016)

Marconi was seated in his marked patrol car, writing a ticket, when he was shot in the head by a passing motorist en.wikipedia.org+1en.wikipedia.org+1.

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7. State Trooper – Sidney, NY (May 29, 2024)

A New York State trooper was killed when a vehicle swerved deliberately off the road into the patrol car, resulting in fatal injuries .

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8. Officer Jesse Hartnett (Attempt only) – Philadelphia, PA (Jan 7, 2016)

Shot at point-blank range through his car window by an assailant with extremist motives; Hartnett survived ucr.fbi.gov+15en.wikipedia.org+15apnnews.com+15.

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9. Officer Justin Hare – Albuquerque, NM (Mar 15, 2024)

Hare was shot while seated in his patrol car during a welfare check; his assailant activated the car and fled ksl.com+12en.wikipedia.org+12apnews.com+12.

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10. Officer (Unnamed NC trooper) – Sidney, NY (Repeat?)

Separate from the May 29 incident, another New York State Trooper was intentionally killed after pulling over a vehicle; a truck struck and dragged him to death 

 

11. Fresno, CA – October 28, 2024

A Fresno PD sergeant was ambushed and shot while seated in his cruiser. The shooter pulled up alongside and opened fire, striking the officer. The sergeant survived and returned fire; the assailant was killed en.wikipedia.org+5police1.com+5foxnews.com+5.

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12. Oakland County, MI – June 22–23, 2024

Deputy Bradley Reckling, from the Oakland County Sheriff’s Office, was in an unmarked car following a stolen vehicle when suspects opened fire, killing him clickondetroit.com+1police1.com+1.

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13. Summit, MS – March 18, 2025

Officer Troy Floyd of Summit PD was killed during a routine traffic stop while seated in his patrol car. A passenger in the vehicle opened fire, fatally wounding him incarcernation.com.

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14. Albuquerque, NM – March 15, 2024

New Mexico State Police Officer Justin Hare was conducting a welfare check when the suspect exited a stopped car and shot him at close range. The suspect then fled in the patrol vehicle clickondetroit.com+12en.wikipedia.org+12reddit.com+12.

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15. San Antonio, TX – November 20, 2016

Detective Benjamin Marconi was writing a ticket in his marked squad car when a passing motorist stopped, walked up to the window, and fatally shot him 

 

police have the right to see which idiot is crouching behind their car in moving traffic…. He did nothing wrong and you know it.  I know you hate police.  They’re deporting your favorite illegals.   Whatever boss.  Your wrong. 

Great. You went back to 1988 to conjure up vastly different circumstances to try and overstate the threat a Cop faces and SOMEHOW justify pulling a gun on a NON-TRAFFIC stop and perfectly legal, constitutionally protected action. 

 

These are just SOME of the jobs most several TIMES more dangerous than being a Cop. 

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  • Logging Workers: With a fatality rate of 100.7 per 100,000 workers, logging is considered the most dangerous job in the U.S. The primary risks include being struck by falling trees or equipment in remote locations. wnct.com+13ishn.com+13worldmetrics.org+13

  • Fishing and Hunting Workers: This occupation has a fatality rate of 50.9 per 100,000 workers. Dangers stem from harsh weather conditions, heavy machinery, and the risk of falling overboard. arnolditkin.com+9ishn.com+9visualcapitalist.com+9

  • Aircraft Pilots and Flight Engineers: These professionals face a fatality rate of 35.9 per 100,000 workers, often due to transportation incidents involving small aircraft. en.wikipedia.org+15ishn.com+15oshaeducationcenter.com+15mtlawyers.com

  • Roofers: With a fatality rate of 57.5 per 100,000 workers, roofers are at high risk due to falls from heights and exposure to extreme weather conditions. blog.kickresume.com+14ishn.com+14worldmetrics.org+14

  • Refuse and Recyclable Material Collectors: This job has a fatality rate of 22.6 per 100,000 workers, primarily due to transportation-related incidents and contact with hazardous materials. reddit.com+12ishn.com+12home.sentryroad.com+12

  • Driver/Sales Workers and Truck Drivers: Facing a fatality rate of 30.4 per 100,000 workers, these drivers are exposed to long hours on the road, increasing the risk of vehicular accidents. cbsnews.com+12harmonycr.com+12yourlawyer.com+12ishn.com+1speakslaw.com+1

  • Structural Iron and Steel Workers: With a fatality rate of 21.3 per 100,000 workers, these workers often operate at great heights, leading to risks of falls and equipment-related injuries. cbsnews.com+14ishn.com+14worldmetrics.org+14

  • Farmers, Ranchers, and Agricultural Managers: This group experiences a fatality rate of 20.0 per 100,000 workers, with dangers including machinery accidents and exposure to hazardous substances. oshaeducationcenter.com+7home.sentryroad.com+7harmonycr.com+7speakslaw.com

   

   

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[scourge165]

2 hours ago, Caveira said:

police have the right to see which idiot is crouching behind their car in moving traffic…. He did nothing wrong and you know it.  I know you hate police.  They’re deporting your favorite illegals.   Whatever boss.  Your wrong. 

THIS is the more ignorant part of this post. Most of my Family is in Law Enforcement. On the two sides, 6 Uncles, among Cousins in the various agencies and including MPs, it's ~12(I don't know if one is retired yet). 

 

But yeah, thinking someone driving an UNMARKED can pull a gun because someone LEGALLY takes a picture of their license plate...can ONLY mean I hate Cops.

 

Again, how the bootlicking on the right have gotten insane. The constitution and you're rights... only works if it suits your argument, eh? LOL... again, not surprised by the hypocrisy. 

[scourge165]

2 hours ago, Scouts Honor said:

come on.. all those were just some guy taking a picture of the license plate

Yes, those 14 cases in ENTIRELY different scenarios since 1988... in somehow in some of your feeble minds means...hell, the Cop could have "changed lanes," which would require backing over him. 

 

LOL... just need to keep pointing out the hypocrisy.