Will we be using the CBU-57 bomb or will Iran get to the table and negotiate. Time is running out.

[Paul158]

I thought the MOAB might be used but it is not a bunker Buster. The CBU-57 is the Bunker Buster. It weighs 30,000 pounds and can penetrate up to 200 feet deep before detonating. It might take 2 or 3 to do the job. 

[ionel]

Now that Isreal has establish air superiority maybe it's time to mop up the rest of the problem.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GBU-57A/B_MOP

[Paul158]

1 minute ago, ionel said:

Now that Isreal has establish air superiority maybe it's time to mop up the rest of the problem.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GBU-57A/B_MOP

They don't seem very willing to negotiate. The clock is ticking. They can't be trusted even if we came to an agreement. 

[ionel]

1 minute ago, Paul158 said:

They don't seem very willing to negotiate. The clock is ticking. They can't be trusted even if we came to an agreement. 

Do we warn the folks in the bunker before we bust the bunker?  I don't think you can stop a MOP once on it's way so telling them it's coming prob doesnt affect the mission.  

[uncle bernard]

14 minutes ago, Paul158 said:

They don't seem very willing to negotiate. The clock is ticking. They can't be trusted even if we came to an agreement. 

Remind me, who unilaterally pulled out of the agreed nuclear treaty despite all its conditions being met?

[ionel]

1 minute ago, uncle bernard said:

Remind me, who unilaterally pulled out of the agreed nuclear treaty despite all its conditions being met?

Has Iran ever agreed to anything?  

[Paul158]

3 minutes ago, ionel said:

Has Iran ever agreed to anything?  

Have they ever been honest and abided by any agreement? Doubtful.

[uncle bernard]

11 minutes ago, ionel said:

Has Iran ever agreed to anything?  

 

6 minutes ago, Paul158 said:

Have they ever been honest and abided by any agreement? Doubtful.

Yes. We broke the agreement, not them.

[ionel]

1 minute ago, uncle bernard said:

 

Yes. We broke the agreement, not them.

What have they agreed to?

[uncle bernard]

1 minute ago, ionel said:

What have they agreed to?

JCPOA

[Scouts Honor]

19 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

Remind me, who unilaterally pulled out of the agreed nuclear treaty despite all its conditions being met?

lol

[Scouts Honor]

why were we never allowed to see natanz? 

[uncle bernard]

1 minute ago, Scouts Honor said:

why were we never allowed to see natanz? 

what are you mumbling about now, grandpa? natanz was inspected by the IAEA and certified to be in accordance with the deal the entire time.

[ionel]

3 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

JCPOA

The IAEA has reported that Iran's nuclear program has advanced beyond the limits set by the JCPOA, 

When you agree to something you follow the agreed terms else it's not an agreement.  Still asking what have they agreed to?  

[uncle bernard]

1 minute ago, ionel said:

The IAEA has reported that Iran's nuclear program has advanced beyond the limits set by the JCPOA, 

When you agree to something you follow the agreed terms else it's not an agreement.  Still asking what have they agreed to?  

Where's that quote from? 

[Scouts Honor]

4 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

what are you mumbling about now, grandpa? natanz was inspected by the IAEA and certified to be in accordance with the deal the entire time.

you are so naive

[uncle bernard]

Just now, Scouts Honor said:

you are so naive

ah yes, everything that doesn't confirm what you already believed is definitely fake and not true. enjoy your pudding. i hear they're doing aquatic yoga today!

[ionel]

3 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

Where's that quote from? 

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-9870/#:~:text=How close is Iran to,do so” (PDF).

Since May 2019, however, Iran has continued to violate the terms of the JCPOA agreement. It has lifted the cap on its stockpile of uranium, which is now 30 times the level permitted; increased its enrichment activities to 60%, significantly beyond the 3.67% permitted under the JCPOA

[Scouts Honor]

The question of how many times inspectors have been turned away from Natanz is difficult to answer with a precise number, as Iran has engaged in various ways of restricting or obstructing the work of International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) inspectors at the site over time. 

Here are some instances of restricted access and related incidents:

• Denied entry visas: In 2006, Iran denied entry visas to some IAEA inspectors, including the head of the agency's team to Tehran, and provided others with single-entry visas instead of the usual multiple-entry permits.
• Clash over inspection frequency: In 2006, Iran and the IAEA clashed over the frequency of visits to the underground facilities at Natanz. The IAEA desired monthly visits for design verification, which Iran refused.
• Cancellation of accreditation and detention of inspector: In 2019, Iran cancelled the accreditation of an IAEA inspector after she triggered an alarm at the Natanz gate. Iran claimed she was carrying "suspicious material," but the IAEA disputed this account and stated she was also temporarily prevented from leaving Iran.
• Restricted access after alleged attack: In July 2021, Iran restricted IAEA inspectors' access to Natanz, citing security concerns after what it claimed was an Israeli attack in April.
• Limitation of inspections and camera footage access: Since 2018, Iran has generally limited IAEA inspections, stopped the agency from accessing camera footage, and removed cameras.
• Withdrawal of inspector designations: In 2023, Iran barred around a third of the IAEA's most experienced inspectors from overseeing nuclear sites, a move that the IAEA called unprecedented and harmful to its monitoring capacity.
• Denial of access for new cameras: In 2021, Iran prohibited inspectors from entering the Karaj centrifuge component production facility (which is related to Natanz operations) to install new surveillance cameras on multiple occasions. 

In summary, Iran has used various methods, including denying visas, restricting access, cancelling accreditation, and limiting inspection activities, to impede IAEA inspections at Natanz and other nuclear sites. These incidents have been documented over several years and have contributed to a strained relationship between Iran and the IAE

[uncle bernard]

46 minutes ago, Paul158 said:

They don't seem very willing to negotiate. The clock is ticking. They can't be trusted even if we came to an agreement. 

They were literally at the negotiating table when Israel attacked them.

[Scouts Honor]

 

[Scouts Honor]

Just now, uncle bernard said:

They were literally at the negotiating table when Israel attacked them.

trump gave them 60 days.

that was day 61.

 

[uncle bernard]

Just now, Scouts Honor said:

The question of how many times inspectors have been turned away from Natanz is difficult to answer with a precise number, as Iran has engaged in various ways of restricting or obstructing the work of International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) inspectors at the site over time. 

Here are some instances of restricted access and related incidents:

• Denied entry visas: In 2006, Iran denied entry visas to some IAEA inspectors, including the head of the agency's team to Tehran, and provided others with single-entry visas instead of the usual multiple-entry permits.
• Clash over inspection frequency: In 2006, Iran and the IAEA clashed over the frequency of visits to the underground facilities at Natanz. The IAEA desired monthly visits for design verification, which Iran refused.
• Cancellation of accreditation and detention of inspector: In 2019, Iran cancelled the accreditation of an IAEA inspector after she triggered an alarm at the Natanz gate. Iran claimed she was carrying "suspicious material," but the IAEA disputed this account and stated she was also temporarily prevented from leaving Iran.
• Restricted access after alleged attack: In July 2021, Iran restricted IAEA inspectors' access to Natanz, citing security concerns after what it claimed was an Israeli attack in April.
• Limitation of inspections and camera footage access: Since 2018, Iran has generally limited IAEA inspections, stopped the agency from accessing camera footage, and removed cameras.
• Withdrawal of inspector designations: In 2023, Iran barred around a third of the IAEA's most experienced inspectors from overseeing nuclear sites, a move that the IAEA called unprecedented and harmful to its monitoring capacity.
• Denial of access for new cameras: In 2021, Iran prohibited inspectors from entering the Karaj centrifuge component production facility (which is related to Natanz operations) to install new surveillance cameras on multiple occasions. 

In summary, Iran has used various methods, including denying visas, restricting access, cancelling accreditation, and limiting inspection activities, to impede IAEA inspections at Natanz and other nuclear sites. These incidents have been documented over several years and have contributed to a strained relationship between Iran and the IAE

Every single instance listed is either before the JCPOA or after Trump cancelled it. How are you this stupid?

[uncle bernard]

1 minute ago, Scouts Honor said:

 

This is just straight up not true. The IAEA were given access to Natanz *during the JCPOA.* 

Your grand ruler cancelled the deal and re-imposed the sanctions, so they stopped complying. That's how treaties work.

[uncle bernard]

6 minutes ago, ionel said:

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-9870/#:~:text=How close is Iran to,do so” (PDF).

Since May 2019, however, Iran has continued to violate the terms of the JCPOA agreement. It has lifted the cap on its stockpile of uranium, which is now 30 times the level permitted; increased its enrichment activities to 60%, significantly beyond the 3.67% permitted under the JCPOA

Damn, that's crazy. Remind me, what happened in 2018?