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2 hours ago, uncle bernard said:

 

And Israel has continued to attack Iran during that time as well.

Who started it this time? Israel. That's not debatable, so you're trying to muddy the waters by going back to 1948 (and falling flat on your face).

Even Israel acknowledges that they started it. They're justifying it by saying it's "preemptive," which they don't have any actual evidence of. Apparently, Iran's been "days away" from nuclear weapons for about the last 15 years. Thankfully, they seem to be quite the procrastinators.

is there any doubt iran would use nukes if possible?
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Posted
1 hour ago, Bigbrog said:

What's absolutely astonishing is UB's unwavered support for a terrorist country that absolutely hates the US and wants to rid the world of the Jews...I wonder if he even hears himself?!?!   "Iran has a right to own nukes."  SMH

1) I didn't say that

2) I would never say that because NO COUNTRY has the right to own nukes, you lunatic.

Posted
33 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said:

so since 1979, iran has been under risk of US invasion.

yet it hasn't happened...

and it won't. 

so try again.

Isreal knows that if Iran ever gets a nuke...

go ahead

tell me

Why would Iran nuke Israel? They know they would immediately get hit with nukes from all the Western countries who own them, including the remnants of Israel, who have a well-known deterrent strategy called the Samson Option, according to which they fire off all their nukes if a country has invaded them and/or destroyed a part of the country (for the Christians on here who I assume don't read their Bibles, Samson killed thousands of Philistines by pulling the temple down on them, killing himself in the process). 

There's a reason why Iran has not invaded Israel or attacked the US. They know they cannot win that conflict. They use indirect strategies, like putting pressure on Israel through proxies like Hezbollah and Hamas.

It's quite similar to our own approach to Iran. We've wanted regime change for 40 years, but we know we cannot successfully invade Iran without unprecedented American casualties. So we work around the edges with our own sanctions and proxies to put pressure on the Iranian regime, hoping it will collapse in on itself.

Israel wants to drag us into a war because they have very little to lose. They know that Iran can't "win," at least decisively in a way that gives them more power. They also know that nobody can possibly go into Iran and take control without massive, massive casualties, which the IDF cannot sustain. That's why they want the US to get involved. Israel sees American soldiers as cannon fodder. They want us to do their dirty work.

Posted
2 hours ago, uncle bernard said:

Why would Iran nuke Israel? They know they would immediately get hit with nukes from all the Western countries who own them, including the remnants of Israel, who have a well-known deterrent strategy called the Samson Option, according to which they fire off all their nukes if a country has invaded them and/or destroyed a part of the country (for the Christians on here who I assume don't read their Bibles, Samson killed thousands of Philistines by pulling the temple down on them, killing himself in the process). 

There's a reason why Iran has not invaded Israel or attacked the US. They know they cannot win that conflict. They use indirect strategies, like putting pressure on Israel through proxies like Hezbollah and Hamas.

It's quite similar to our own approach to Iran. We've wanted regime change for 40 years, but we know we cannot successfully invade Iran without unprecedented American casualties. So we work around the edges with our own sanctions and proxies to put pressure on the Iranian regime, hoping it will collapse in on itself.

Israel wants to drag us into a war because they have very little to lose. They know that Iran can't "win," at least decisively in a way that gives them more power. They also know that nobody can possibly go into Iran and take control without massive, massive casualties, which the IDF cannot sustain. That's why they want the US to get involved. Israel sees American soldiers as cannon fodder. They want us to do their dirty work.

if you are so confident of this... why do they need one?

NO OTHER COUNTRY has used nukes against the largest supporter of terror in the world.

why would they need a deterrent 

 

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