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Posted
1 minute ago, Scouts Honor said:

me:wondering why iran wants a nuke?

leftist: to deter isreal from using

me: isreal has never used nukes

leftist: but they bomb iran all the time

me: so why does iran need nukes?

me: b/c they want to use them

Iran truly believes that destroying Israel is their religious obligation.  They want to bring about the Mahdi.

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Posted
Just now, El Luchador said:

If you had someone who promised everyone they were going to kill you and your family would you act preemptively? 

Israel has threatened war with Iran the entire time too. And the Iran Nuclear Program stuff is just propaganda. There really isn't any evidence Iran is close to developing nuclear weapons. And even if they did, they'd be justified because Israel *already has nukes pointed at Tehran.* If we were serious about preventing nuclear Iran, then we would make the Israeli's denuclearize. You can't extoll the value of nuclear weapons as a deterrent and then turn around and condemn a country *who has been threatened consistently by major nuclear powers over the last several decades* for wanting their own deterrent nukes. I can guarantee you these strikes don't happen if Iran actually had nukes.

You guys just pretend this stuff happens out of nowhere and Israel is the unluckiest country in the world. They *made* their enemies. They stole land. They expelled people. They killed people. They've bombed and assassinated citizens in almost every regional country.

This is a conflict with two very willing sides. The Arabs don't want peace. Israel doesn't want peace. They've never wanted peace. They want the land because they think God gave it to them. As they've said many times, they view the Arabs as "Amalek" and God has commanded them to wipe them out.

Posted
4 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

 

This is a conflict with two very willing sides. The Arabs don't want peace. Israel doesn't want peace. They've never wanted peace. They want the land because they think God gave it to them. As they've said many times, they view the Arabs as "Amalek" and God has commanded them to wipe them out.

What does this have to do with Iran?

Posted
13 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

Israel has threatened war with Iran the entire time too. And the Iran Nuclear Program stuff is just propaganda. There really isn't any evidence Iran is close to developing nuclear weapons. And even if they did, they'd be justified because Israel *already has nukes pointed at Tehran.* If we were serious about preventing nuclear Iran, then we would make the Israeli's denuclearize. You can't extoll the value of nuclear weapons as a deterrent and then turn around and condemn a country *who has been threatened consistently by major nuclear powers over the last several decades* for wanting their own deterrent nukes. I can guarantee you these strikes don't happen if Iran actually had nukes.

You guys just pretend this stuff happens out of nowhere and Israel is the unluckiest country in the world. They *made* their enemies. They stole land. They expelled people. They killed people. They've bombed and assassinated citizens in almost every regional country.

This is a conflict with two very willing sides. The Arabs don't want peace. Israel doesn't want peace. They've never wanted peace. They want the land because they think God gave it to them. As they've said many times, they view the Arabs as "Amalek" and God has commanded them to wipe them out.

Israel has been forced to do bad things.  Ignoring Iran would guarantee their destruction  They have been attacked from the beginning. Israel doesn't have a publicly stated goal of the destruction of any other countries. The moral differences are significant  

Posted
30 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

Israel has threatened war with Iran the entire time too. And the Iran Nuclear Program stuff is just propaganda. There really isn't any evidence Iran is close to developing nuclear weapons. And even if they did, they'd be justified because Israel *already has nukes pointed at Tehran.* If we were serious about preventing nuclear Iran, then we would make the Israeli's denuclearize. You can't extoll the value of nuclear weapons as a deterrent and then turn around and condemn a country *who has been threatened consistently by major nuclear powers over the last several decades* for wanting their own deterrent nukes. I can guarantee you these strikes don't happen if Iran actually had nukes.

You guys just pretend this stuff happens out of nowhere and Israel is the unluckiest country in the world. They *made* their enemies. They stole land. They expelled people. They killed people. They've bombed and assassinated citizens in almost every regional country.

This is a conflict with two very willing sides. The Arabs don't want peace. Israel doesn't want peace. They've never wanted peace. They want the land because they think God gave it to them. As they've said many times, they view the Arabs as "Amalek" and God has commanded them to wipe them out.

but they threatened me too

no i dint

didso

lol

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Posted
31 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

Israel has threatened war with Iran the entire time too. And the Iran Nuclear Program stuff is just propaganda. There really isn't any evidence Iran is close to developing nuclear weapons. And even if they did, they'd be justified because Israel *already has nukes pointed at Tehran.* If we were serious about preventing nuclear Iran, then we would make the Israeli's denuclearize. You can't extoll the value of nuclear weapons as a deterrent and then turn around and condemn a country *who has been threatened consistently by major nuclear powers over the last several decades* for wanting their own deterrent nukes. I can guarantee you these strikes don't happen if Iran actually had nukes.

You guys just pretend this stuff happens out of nowhere and Israel is the unluckiest country in the world. They *made* their enemies. They stole land. They expelled people. They killed people. They've bombed and assassinated citizens in almost every regional country.

This is a conflict with two very willing sides. The Arabs don't want peace. Israel doesn't want peace. They've never wanted peace. They want the land because they think God gave it to them. As they've said many times, they view the Arabs as "Amalek" and God has commanded them to wipe them out.

why does iran have to worry about a nuclear isreal?

Posted
38 minutes ago, El Luchador said:

Israel has been forced to do bad things.  Ignoring Iran would guarantee their destruction  They have been attacked from the beginning. Israel doesn't have a publicly stated goal of the destruction of any other countries. The moral differences are significant  

Yes, they do. The Likud charter clearly states, Israel must have dominion over the land "from the river to the sea." I've been told that's genocidal language.

Posted
1 minute ago, uncle bernard said:

Probably because Israel's government has been advocating war against Iran for 40 years.

but why do they need nukes? they attack isreal all the time

and isreal has NEVER used nukes

tell me why

Posted
6 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said:

but why do they need nukes? they attack isreal all the time

and isreal has NEVER used nukes

tell me why

To deter US invasion on behalf of Israel.

That's why Israel has been doing this song and dance for 30 years. They know that if Iran ever gets a nuke, any sort of US invasion is off the table. 

Posted

For all you guys terrified of a nuclear Iran, you guys know this is Trump's fault, right?

The Iran Nuclear Deal was one of the only truly successful things to come out of Obama's presidency, and Trump scrapped it purely out of spite. Now he's desperately trying to renegotiate a new one.

We wouldn't be here if your guy didn't screw everything up (like he always does).

Posted

What's absolutely astonishing is UB's unwavered support for a terrorist country that absolutely hates the US and wants to rid the world of the Jews...I wonder if he even hears himself?!?!   "Iran has a right to own nukes."  SMH

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Posted
1 minute ago, uncle bernard said:

For all you guys terrified of a nuclear Iran, you guys know this is Trump's fault, right?

The Iran Nuclear Deal was one of the only truly successful things to come out of Obama's presidency, and Trump scrapped it purely out of spite. Now he's desperately trying to renegotiate a new one.

We wouldn't be here if your guy didn't screw everything up (like he always does).

OMG...just when you can't get any more ridiculous you throw this doozy out there...WOW!!  

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Posted
Just now, Bigbrog said:

What's absolutely astonishing is UB's unwavered support for a terrorist country that absolutely hates the US and wants to rid the world of the Jews...I wonder if he even hears himself?!?!   "Iran has a right to own nukes."  SMH

They mainly hate us because we militarily support and fund Israel's illegal actions. We will learn the hard way that we should have never stuck our nose in that part of the world.  Eventually we will get nuked ourselves. 

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Posted
1 hour ago, uncle bernard said:

Israel has threatened war with Iran the entire time too. And the Iran Nuclear Program stuff is just propaganda. There really isn't any evidence Iran is close to developing nuclear weapons. And even if they did, they'd be justified because Israel *already has nukes pointed at Tehran.* If we were serious about preventing nuclear Iran, then we would make the Israeli's denuclearize. You can't extoll the value of nuclear weapons as a deterrent and then turn around and condemn a country *who has been threatened consistently by major nuclear powers over the last several decades* for wanting their own deterrent nukes. I can guarantee you these strikes don't happen if Iran actually had nukes.

You guys just pretend this stuff happens out of nowhere and Israel is the unluckiest country in the world. They *made* their enemies. They stole land. They expelled people. They killed people. They've bombed and assassinated citizens in almost every regional country.

This is a conflict with two very willing sides. The Arabs don't want peace. Israel doesn't want peace. They've never wanted peace. They want the land because they think God gave it to them. As they've said many times, they view the Arabs as "Amalek" and God has commanded them to wipe them out.

They were there long before any Muslims were.  They didn’t steal anything 

Posted
1 minute ago, red viking said:

They mainly hate us because we militarily support and fund Israel's illegal actions. We will learn the hard way that we should have never stuck our nose in that part of the world.  Eventually we will get nuked ourselves. 

Untrue.  Their hatred for us largely has to with things that happened after the creation of Israel.

Posted
3 minutes ago, red viking said:

They mainly hate us because we militarily support and fund Israel's illegal actions. We will learn the hard way that we should have never stuck our nose in that part of the world.  Eventually we will get nuked ourselves. 

I’ll take that bet 

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Posted
8 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

For all you guys terrified of a nuclear Iran, you guys know this is Trump's fault, right?

The Iran Nuclear Deal was one of the only truly successful things to come out of Obama's presidency, and Trump scrapped it purely out of spite. Now he's desperately trying to renegotiate a new one.

We wouldn't be here if your guy didn't screw everything up (like he always does).

We?????????  Meaning you and the terrorists 

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Posted
35 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

To deter US invasion on behalf of Israel.

That's why Israel has been doing this song and dance for 30 years. They know that if Iran ever gets a nuke, any sort of US invasion is off the table. 

so since 1979, iran has been under risk of US invasion.

yet it hasn't happened...

and it won't. 

so try again.

Isreal knows that if Iran ever gets a nuke...

go ahead

tell me

Posted
35 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

For all you guys terrified of a nuclear Iran, you guys know this is Trump's fault, right?

The Iran Nuclear Deal was one of the only truly successful things to come out of Obama's presidency, and Trump scrapped it purely out of spite. Now he's desperately trying to renegotiate a new one.

We wouldn't be here if your guy didn't screw everything up (like he always does).

LOLOLOLOL

Posted
1 hour ago, uncle bernard said:

Probably because Israel's government has been advocating war against Iran for 40 years.

Like when they sponsored a raid against an Iranian music festival  and walked down the street killing people  and stealing their stuff as trophies? Or when they armed resistance groups in all Iran's surrounding countries to create unrest and terrorism? If Israel had Iran's mentality Iran would have been gone years ago.

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