Anybody That Protests Trumps Military Parade To Be "Met With Force"

[red viking]

Wow. Wish I was near there. He doesn't like free speech, huh? Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong Um style. 

Edited Wednesday at 03:29 AM by red viking

[Caveira]

Didn’t the planning for this start under the vegetable.  I mean the Biden admin?

[GreatWhiteNorth]

4 hours ago, Caveira said:

Didn’t the planning for this start under the vegetable.  I mean the Biden admin?

No. No it didn't.

[GreatWhiteNorth]

Free speech and the right to peaceful protest are integral freedom in the US and guaranteed by the US Constitution. These are some of the things that separate us from the sh**hole countries like Russia, China, Iran, North Korea, etc., etc.

The fact that the Trump administration is threatening anyone who has this legal right to peacefully protest should make everyone think twice about what kind of country Trump and his cronies really want to turn the US into... it certainly isn't going to make the country Great Again.

If making the country Great Again is what you want - you'll need to look elsewhere. The current administration is running the country into the ground.

D or R, whatever. Makes no difference. Our country is being steered in the wrong direction. It should be obvious to all.

Edited Wednesday at 08:11 AM by GreatWhiteNorth

[red viking]

Seems REALLY dumb for him to even be making such a threat, unless he WANTS to agitate people and have an excuse to use force. Create a crisis, just like he did in LA. Then take credit for it after it inevitably simmers down. 

[Bigbrog]

4 hours ago, GreatWhiteNorth said:

Free speech and the right to peaceful protest are integral freedom in the US and guaranteed by the US Constitution. These are some of the things that separate us from the sh**hole countries like Russia, China, Iran, North Korea, etc., etc.

The fact that the Trump administration is threatening anyone who has this legal right to peacefully protest should make everyone think twice about what kind of country Trump and his cronies really want to turn the US into... it certainly isn't going to make the country Great Again.

If making the country Great Again is what you want - you'll need to look elsewhere. The current administration is running the country into the ground.

D or R, whatever. Makes no difference. Our country is being steered in the wrong direction. It should be obvious to all.

Well...bye

[jross]

The topic title tells me this is spin or propaganda.

Now I will find and review the source over coffee.  Let’s see if this is accurate or example #998237 to explore critical thinking.

[red viking]

3 minutes ago, jross said:

The topic title tells me this is spin or propaganda.

Now I will find and review the source over coffee.  Let’s see if this is accurate or example #998237 to explore critical thinking.

He's on video saying it. Hard to spin that. 

[ionel]

5 hours ago, GreatWhiteNorth said:

Free speech and the right to peaceful protest are integral freedom in the US and guaranteed by the US Constitution.

I thought it was free speech and the right to loot, trash buildings, throw rocks and burn cars & cruisers.  If that's not the case surely local and state authority would shut this stuff down.  Isn't there a clause that says the right to anarchy trumps a citizen's right to safety and security? 

Edited Wednesday at 01:21 PM by ionel

[jross]

7 minutes ago, red viking said:

He's on video saying it. Hard to spin that. 

Here is one of the clips circulating.
 

 

"We won the war and we're the only country that didn't celebrate it, and we're going to be celebrating big on Saturday. We're gonna have a lot of, and if there's any protest that wants to come out, they will be met with very big force, by the way, for those people who want to protest, they're going to be met with very big force and I haven't even heard about a protest, but you know, this is uh people that hate our country, but they will be met with very heavy force."

 

Trump does not provide an adjective that modifies "protest" to clarify its nature.  Does he mean peaceful, violent, both, or either?  

Let's watch a longer video to discover possible context.

 

We learn that Los Angeles violence is the backdrop: Trump’s remarks are influenced by the ongoing Los Angeles protests.  He talks about protesters using “big heavy hammers” to break concrete, throwing chunks at police and soldiers, and dropping concrete from bridges onto cars (0:20–0:36). He claims these acts would have led to Los Angeles “burning” without his intervention (0:47–0:56, 3:47–3:49). Reports confirm violent acts in LA, including rock-throwing, burning cars, and vandalism, with over 300 arrests and a curfew imposed by June 10.

 

So now we can infer he is talking about violent protestors.

[red viking]

Just now, jross said:

Here is one of the clips circulating.
 

 

"We won the war and we're the only country that didn't celebrate it, and we're going to be celebrating big on Saturday. We're gonna have a lot of, and if there's any protest that wants to come out, they will be met with very big force, by the way, for those people who want to protest, they're going to be met with very big force and I haven't even heard about a protest, but you know, this is uh people that hate our country, but they will be met with very heavy force."

 

Trump does not provide an adjective that modifies "protest" to clarify its nature.  Does he mean peaceful, violent, both, or either?  

Let's watch a longer video to discover possible context.

 

We learn that Los Angeles violence is the backdrop: Trump’s remarks are influenced by the ongoing Los Angeles protests.  He talks about protesters using “big heavy hammers” to break concrete, throwing chunks at police and soldiers, and dropping concrete from bridges onto cars (0:20–0:36). He claims these acts would have led to Los Angeles “burning” without his intervention (0:47–0:56, 3:47–3:49). Reports confirm violent acts in LA, including rock-throwing, burning cars, and vandalism, with over 300 arrests and a curfew imposed by June 10.

 

So now we can infer he is talking about violent protestors.

Nice spin. He said protests. He either meant that or he's really dumb to not add the context. Period. 

[jross]

 

[JimmySpeaks]

That’s the problem.  Woke libtards don’t consider what’s happening in LA violent.  

[jross]

1 minute ago, red viking said:

Nice spin. He said protests. He either meant that or he's really dumb to not add the context. Period. 

Watch the longer video and listen, and then report back please if you feel the same way.  You could be correct.

[Offthemat]

34 minutes ago, red viking said:

He's on video saying it. Hard to spin that. 

Why would anyone protest a parade commemorating the beginnings of our country?  Un-Americans?

[jross]

FWIW: Youtube allows you to grab video transcripts.  

AI Prompt: Is trump talking about peaceful or violent protestors for the military based on the full transcript here?

 

Based on the full transcript, Trump is primarily discussing violent protests in the context of military intervention. He describes actions such as people using hammers to break concrete, throwing chunks at police and soldiers, dropping concrete from bridges onto cars, and throwing rocks at police vehicles. He refers to these protesters as "paid insurrectionists," "troublemakers," "agitators," and "criminals," emphasizing their violent behavior, such as spitting in soldiers' faces and endangering law enforcement. He justifies the deployment of the National Guard and Marines to stop what he describes as a planned, violent disaster in Los Angeles, stating that without this intervention, the city would be "burning."

 

While Trump does not explicitly address peaceful protests in detail, his comments suggest a broad stance against any protests that disrupt order. For instance, he mentions that any protests during the upcoming June 14th parade will be met with "very big force," without distinguishing between peaceful or violent ones, though he notes he hasn’t heard of any planned protests. Additionally, his associate Christie condemns the Mexican President for encouraging protests, implying disapproval of even non-violent ones if they are seen as disruptive, though she clarifies that peaceful protests are allowed but violence is unacceptable.

 

In summary, Trump’s focus is on condemning and addressing violent protests with military force, portraying them as orchestrated and dangerous. He does not explicitly endorse or discuss peaceful protests at length, but his rhetoric suggests a low tolerance for any protest activity that could escalate, with a heavy-handed response promised.

[red viking]

11 minutes ago, jross said:

FWIW: Youtube allows you to grab video transcripts.  

AI Prompt: Is trump talking about peaceful or violent protestors for the military based on the full transcript here?

 

Based on the full transcript, Trump is primarily discussing violent protests in the context of military intervention. He describes actions such as people using hammers to break concrete, throwing chunks at police and soldiers, dropping concrete from bridges onto cars, and throwing rocks at police vehicles. He refers to these protesters as "paid insurrectionists," "troublemakers," "agitators," and "criminals," emphasizing their violent behavior, such as spitting in soldiers' faces and endangering law enforcement. He justifies the deployment of the National Guard and Marines to stop what he describes as a planned, violent disaster in Los Angeles, stating that without this intervention, the city would be "burning."

 

While Trump does not explicitly address peaceful protests in detail, his comments suggest a broad stance against any protests that disrupt order. For instance, he mentions that any protests during the upcoming June 14th parade will be met with "very big force," without distinguishing between peaceful or violent ones, though he notes he hasn’t heard of any planned protests. Additionally, his associate Christie condemns the Mexican President for encouraging protests, implying disapproval of even non-violent ones if they are seen as disruptive, though she clarifies that peaceful protests are allowed but violence is unacceptable.

 

In summary, Trump’s focus is on condemning and addressing violent protests with military force, portraying them as orchestrated and dangerous. He does not explicitly endorse or discuss peaceful protests at length, but his rhetoric suggests a low tolerance for any protest activity that could escalate, with a heavy-handed response promised.

Maybe he can bring in active duty marines again to deal with protesters. 

[Offthemat]

3 minutes ago, red viking said:

Maybe he can bring in active duty marines again to deal with protesters. 

It’s a military parade, correct?

[red viking]

3 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

It’s a military parade, correct?

Well, yah. For his birthday too. I've participated in military parades myself and we didn't typically carry loaded weapons and use "force" against protesters as part of those parades. 

[Offthemat]

 

2 minutes ago, red viking said:

we didn't typically carry loaded weapons and use "force" against protesters as part of those parades.

Who protested your parade?

[Caveira]

6 hours ago, GreatWhiteNorth said:

Free speech and the right to peaceful protest are integral freedom in the US and guaranteed by the US Constitution. These are some of the things that separate us from the sh**hole countries like Russia, China, Iran, North Korea, etc., etc.

The fact that the Trump administration is threatening anyone who has this legal right to peacefully protest should make everyone think twice about what kind of country Trump and his cronies really want to turn the US into... it certainly isn't going to make the country Great Again.

If making the country Great Again is what you want - you'll need to look elsewhere. The current administration is running the country into the ground.

D or R, whatever. Makes no difference. Our country is being steered in the wrong direction. It should be obvious to all.

Problem is.  The left burns shyte when they protest.  It’s rarely peaceful or legal. 

[red viking]

1 hour ago, Caveira said:

Problem is.  The left burns shyte when they protest.  It’s rarely peaceful or legal. 

The LA protests didn't get really bad until AFTER Trump escalated the situation. That's also what caused the protests to spread nationwide. 

Lesson here is that it's better to only use the force that's absolutely necessary to handle a situation. 

[Caveira]

2 minutes ago, red viking said:

The LA protests didn't get really bad until AFTER Trump escalated the situation. That's also what caused the protests to spread nationwide. 

Lesson here is that it's better to only use the force that's absolutely necessary to handle a situation. 

You were already told the pics of those fires and attacks on police were prior to trumps involvement.   I believe scouts honor told you but I won’t be looking it up.   It’s almost like you don’t listen.  
 

Trump got involved because of the violence and illegal riots.   Not before. 

Edited Wednesday at 04:12 PM by Caveira

[JimmySpeaks]

49 minutes ago, red viking said:

The LA protests didn't get really bad until AFTER Trump escalated the situation. That's also what caused the protests to spread nationwide. 

Lesson here is that it's better to only use the force that's absolutely necessary to handle a situation. 

 

50 minutes ago, red viking said:

The LA protests didn't get really bad until AFTER Trump escalated the situation. That's also what caused the protests to spread nationwide. 

Lesson here is that it's better to only use the force that's absolutely necessary to handle a situation. 

These riots started in MPLS soooooooo

[lisa morales]

Are there seriously any conservatives who are in favor of the military parade?  I tend to doubt it.