scourge165 Posted June 7 Posted June 7 3 hours ago, Caveira said: He has no idea what’s in them. What are we basing that on?
GreatWhiteNorth Posted June 7 Posted June 7 Musk is the guy who, for months, had FULL ACCESS to every federal department in the country. And who downloaded every bit of information that was accessible. Every single bit and took it with him. Bombshell: For me and others who sounded the alarm bell and warned you that it could be bad... we were right... and it could get worse. Much worse. Trump sent Musk packing when his other mega rich supporters (and their lawyers) realized Musk was getting a step up on them and everyone they were associated with. Even the mega rich are sometimes slow on the draw. Oh - and another Bombshell: Yes, there is no reasonable doubt that Musk has access to the Epstein files. (Don't forget that DOGE is still operating - even if Elon isn't around.) It just leaves one question: If you give a guy the keys to the kingdom, and then wonder how he has access to everything - how smart are you? 1
Caveira Posted June 7 Author Posted June 7 6 hours ago, GreatWhiteNorth said: Musk is the guy who, for months, had FULL ACCESS to every federal department in the country. The comment stating that "Musk is the guy who, for months, had FULL ACCESS to every federal department in the country" is an exaggeration and not entirely factual. Elon Musk was appointed by President Donald Trump to co-lead the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), an initiative aimed at auditing and reforming federal agencies to reduce wasteful spending. In this role, Musk and his team were granted significant access to certain government systems, notably the U.S. Treasury Department's payment system, which handles disbursements such as Social Security and Medicare benefits . This access included sensitive personal data of millions of Americans and details of public contractors.en.wikipedia.org+16budget.house.gov+16npr.org+16en.wikipedia.org+3theguardian.com+3reuters.com+3abcnews.go.com+2en.wikipedia.org+2theguardian.com+2 However, there is no evidence to suggest that Musk had "full access to every federal department." While DOGE's mandate involved evaluating various federal agencies, the extent of access varied and was primarily focused on financial and efficiency audits. The broad claim of universal access overstates the scope of Musk's role and the reach of DOGE's authority. 1
Caveira Posted June 7 Author Posted June 7 6 hours ago, GreatWhiteNorth said: Oh - and another Bombshell: Yes, there is no reasonable doubt that Musk has access to the Epstein files. (Don't forget that DOGE is still operating - even if Elon isn't around.) he also deleted that tweet. There is no public evidence indicating that Elon Musk has had access to the full, unreleased Jeffrey Epstein files.However, in May 2023, the U.S. ***I have a limited vocabulary*** Islands subpoenaed Musk for documents related to Epstein as part of a civil lawsuit against JPMorgan Chase, which was accused of enabling Epstein’s sex trafficking operations. The subpoena sought any communications Musk had with Epstein or JPMorgan, as well as any records of financial transactions involving them .wsj.com+8apnews.com+8reuters.com+8reuters.com More recently, in June 2025, Musk claimed on his social media platform X (formerly Twitter) that former President Donald Trump is named in the unreleased Epstein files. He suggested this as the reason for the files not being fully disclosed. This assertion was made amid a public feud between Musk and Trump and was not accompanied by any supporting evidence . Musk later deleted the post, and there has been no confirmation that he possesses or has seen the sealed documents.aljazeera.com+5time.com+5businessinsider.com+5washingtonpost.com+2businessinsider.com+2time.com+2 In summary, while Musk was subpoenaed for documents in connection with the Epstein case, there is no indication that he has had access to the complete, unreleased Epstein files. 1
WrestlingRasta Posted June 7 Posted June 7 Exactly why I said his post appeared as erratic drug behavior. 1
GreatWhiteNorth Posted June 8 Posted June 8 14 hours ago, Caveira said: The comment stating that "Musk is the guy who, for months, had FULL ACCESS to every federal department in the country" is an exaggeration and not entirely factual. Elon Musk was appointed by President Donald Trump to co-lead the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), an initiative aimed at auditing and reforming federal agencies to reduce wasteful spending. In this role, Musk and his team were granted significant access to certain government systems, notably the U.S. Treasury Department's payment system, which handles disbursements such as Social Security and Medicare benefits . This access included sensitive personal data of millions of Americans and details of public contractors.en.wikipedia.org+16budget.house.gov+16npr.org+16en.wikipedia.org+3theguardian.com+3reuters.com+3abcnews.go.com+2en.wikipedia.org+2theguardian.com+2 However, there is no evidence to suggest that Musk had "full access to every federal department." While DOGE's mandate involved evaluating various federal agencies, the extent of access varied and was primarily focused on financial and efficiency audits. The broad claim of universal access overstates the scope of Musk's role and the reach of DOGE's authority. It is absolutely NOT an exaggeration that Musk/DOGE had full access to every federal department for months. That is a fact. Trump himself insisted that they not only have access, but that their actions must be done in "secret" - eliminating any oversight whatsoever. Collecting the data for future use or whatever they wish to do without any concern with oversight, audit, or accountability. They routinely modified the database logs to 'wipe clean' their actions - with Presidential authority and approval. This, just yesterday, was confirmed to be allowed by the Supreme Court as well. (Supreme Court grants DOGE access to confidential Social Security records : NPR) Musk/DOGE had full access and continues to have full access to every federal department with no oversight or limitations. Here's the Bombshell: You and I no longer have any secrets when it comes to the federal government. None. Zero. Musk and his team of 20-something hacker types have them all. And what they do with them? Aside from training the xAI system... who knows? It is frightening to consider the options. This should be bigger news than it is. But non-tech folks just don't know how to wrap their heads around it. They choose to bury their heads in the sand and pretend it isn't happening instead. But - it is happening. 1 1
GreatWhiteNorth Posted June 8 Posted June 8 15 hours ago, Caveira said: <blah, blah, blah>... In summary, while Musk was subpoenaed for documents in connection with the Epstein case, there is no indication that he has had access to the complete, unreleased Epstein files. As I originally posted, there is no reasonable doubt that Musk has access to the Epstein files. If you want to argue with me - at least argue with what I actually posted. Not with some strawman. 2
GreatWhiteNorth Posted June 8 Posted June 8 13 hours ago, WrestlingRasta said: Exactly why I said his post appeared as erratic drug behavior. That's one interpretation of what 'deleting a tweet' means. But it would be a stretch for you to think it is somehow the only one. As likely an interpretation is that Musk is trying to deescalate the situation. But then again, who really knows. Both of these ego maniacs are as unpredictable and unreliable as a chocolate teapot.
Caveira Posted June 8 Author Posted June 8 5 hours ago, GreatWhiteNorth said: As I originally posted, there is no reasonable doubt that Musk has access to the Epstein files. If you want to argue with me - at least argue with what I actually posted. Not with some strawman. Post a reference that says he can see the Epstein files.
red viking Posted June 8 Posted June 8 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Caveira said: Post a reference that says he can see the Epstein files. I don't know if he had access to the files but I'm sure he knows what went on there, more than 99.99% of us. We also know that Trump loves very young females, so..... 2+2=4, most likely. Edited June 8 by red viking
ionel Posted June 8 Posted June 8 8 hours ago, red viking said: We also know that Trump loves very young females, so..... How do we know this? We do know that @lisa morales doesn't like squirrel nests but thats different so ... .
Caveira Posted June 8 Author Posted June 8 8 hours ago, red viking said: I don't know if he had access to the files but I'm sure he knows what went on there, more than 99.99% of us. We also know that Trump loves very young females, so..... 2+2=4, most likely. I mean. Proof enough. Maybe he will get indicated with the tweet?
JimmySpeaks Posted June 8 Posted June 8 2+2 =4 More dems on the list lots of world leaders on the list they should ALL be locked up
JimmySpeaks Posted June 8 Posted June 8 59 minutes ago, ionel said: How do we know this? We do know that @lisa morales doesn't like squirrel nests but thats different so ... Left eye Lisa is a dude
ionel Posted June 8 Posted June 8 12 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said: Left eye Lisa is a dude But I heard he/she "plays the other way" - not that anythings wrong with that. 1 2 .
JimmySpeaks Posted June 8 Posted June 8 5 minutes ago, ionel said: But I heard he/she "plays the other way" - not that anythings wrong with that. Doesn’t make him, her, it a bad person at all
Tripnsweep Posted June 8 Posted June 8 1 hour ago, ionel said: How do we know this? He's literally said so.
JimmySpeaks Posted June 8 Posted June 8 1 minute ago, Tripnsweep said: He's literally said so. Oh well then.
Tripnsweep Posted June 8 Posted June 8 26 minutes ago, ionel said: reference https://youtu.be/yRAPLodRnd4?si=I7hh-S1IX7C57yaH
ionel Posted June 8 Posted June 8 32 minutes ago, Tripnsweep said: https://youtu.be/yRAPLodRnd4?si=I7hh-S1IX7C57yaH .
scourge165 Posted Monday at 12:16 AM Posted Monday at 12:16 AM 18 hours ago, GreatWhiteNorth said: That's one interpretation of what 'deleting a tweet' means. But it would be a stretch for you to think it is somehow the only one. As likely an interpretation is that Musk is trying to deescalate the situation. But then again, who really knows. Both of these ego maniacs are as unpredictable and unreliable as a chocolate teapot. I 100% think Musk going nuclear(figuratively peaking as Scout and El Luchador will think I'm inferring he has access to the Nuclear weapons)...was definitely ketamine fueled. It doesn't mean it's not true. It's just sloppy. Like that group of girls who get too drunk and they start bickering and then one blurts out how Becky cheated on Spring Break! I still think it's hilarious, the most predictable thing ever(who thought this would end well) and it's funny how people are arguing he didn't have access to the Epstein Files...like they have a clue.
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