White Conservatives are the biggest threat

[1032004]

11 minutes ago, Caveira said:

I can help both sides of this argument. 
 

in the last 1,800 posts.  No one has added a new idea or argument.  Just yelled their respective answers into an echo chamber.   
 

hint.   Neither party will change their mind.  I think it’s time to hang up this thread until more details / facts come out.  

Except you’re acting like the “facts” support both sides evenly, they don’t.

 

Evidence he’s a leftist:

-”appointed” by Walz to an unpaid, bipartisan board

-had “No Kings” flyers in his car

-one of the multiple politicians he shot voted with Republicans recently

 

that’s pretty much it.  
 

Evidence he’s not a leftist (and I’m not even saying he’s a right winger, just not a leftist):

-only targeted Democrats

-registered Republican

-voted for Trump according to his roommate

-crazy pro-lifer

 

those are not even

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[Caveira]

2 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Except you’re acting like the “facts” support both sides evenly, they don’t.

 

Evidence he’s a leftist:

-”appointed” by Walz to an unpaid, bipartisan board

-had “No Kings” flyers in his car

-one of the multiple politicians he shot voted with Republicans recently

 

that’s pretty much it.  
 

Evidence he’s not a leftist (and I’m not even saying he’s a right winger, just not a leftist):

-only targeted Democrats

-registered Republican

-voted for Trump according to his roommate

-crazy pro-lifer

 

those are not even

Yell into that echo chamber boss.   I promise you the dudes you’re arguing with are not reading it.    And for sure they are not going to agree with it.  
 

I’m acting like some maniac dip shyte and what ideological team he plays for doesn’t matter.   He’s some sort of maniac dip shyte.  

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[mspart]

Apparently only you care.   He's a  murderer, lock him up.   Or is there an exception in case he leans D?  What say you?

mspart

[1032004]

6 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Yell into that echo chamber boss.   I promise you the dudes you’re arguing with are not reading it.    And for sure they are not going to agree with it.  
 

I’m acting like some maniac dip shyte and what ideological team he plays for doesn’t matter.   He’s some sort of maniac dip shyte.  

I agree, but I think you’re only saying that because you know he’s not leftist.

There was definitely an element of both sides trying to blame it on the other from the start, but it was the right that quickly resorted to made up nonsense like “his wife interned for Walz!” and “both people he shot voted with Republicans!” Myself personally am more concerned with debunking lies than trying to pin it on a side (in fact I’ve said I’m not saying the guy was MAGA.  But he wasn’t leftist).

[Caveira]

Just now, 1032004 said:

I agree, but I think you’re only saying that because you know he’s not leftist.

There was definitely an element of both sides trying to blame it on the other from the start, but it was the right that quickly resorted to made up nonsense like “his wife interned for Walz!” and “both people he shot voted with Republicans!” Myself personally am more concerned with debunking lies than trying to pin it on a side (in fact I’ve said I’m not saying the guy was MAGA.  But he wasn’t leftist).

Was.  Now it’s spiraled into people repeating what they have said ad nauseam and no one reading it.   No new info.  Just rinse repeat same argument.  
 

do you own a guitar or have a fondness for old technology?
 

[1032004]

8 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Was.  Now it’s spiraled into people repeating what they have said ad nauseam and no one reading it.   No new info.  Just rinse repeat same argument.  
 

The difference is @El Luchador has believed lies, I didn’t.

 

[scourge165]

4 hours ago, mspart said:

Can we all just agree that this guy, if he is the one that did it, needs to be put away for a long time, if not put to death?

mspart

We can agree on that.

I'm not sure it's good enough to JUST agree on that. 

If you start to have your own facts and deny reality, claim this guy who had the names an addresses of numerous Democrats, but he was really a Democrat operative and he didn't have their names and numbers to kill them(except for the two people he did kill and the other two he shot 10 times each) but instead because he was working for them...

 

And then you go a step further and you declare that NONE of the bad people in history have been far right. Shouldn't even be relevant as I don't see many communists or socialists on here(Social Democrats perhaps, but...that's quite a bit different). And you say that communists and socialists are part of the left, but then you deny that fascists and ethnocentric nationalists are right wing...

Aside from just not understanding what those mean, you're saying ALL the bad people are on  THAT side. Not "my" side, but "that" side. And since you're "left" of center in the modern 2 party system in America, then...you're on the same "side" as ALL the bad people.

 

And then we wonder why some people are openly calling for Civil War(moreso before the election and if the result went a certain way, but still a disturbing number of people are calling for one) and then others are going even further and committing acts of terror and shooting people based on political ideology. 

 

You can tell me where you disagree...if you care to. Otherwise we'll just agree he deserves capital murder and life in prison/death penalty.

[Caveira]

1 minute ago, scourge165 said:

We can agree on that.

I'm not sure it's good enough to JUST agree on that. 

If you start to have your own facts and deny reality, claim this guy who had the names an addresses of numerous Democrats, but he was really a Democrat operative and he didn't have their names and numbers to kill them(except for the two people he did kill and the other two he shot 10 times each) but instead because he was working for them...

 

And then you go a step further and you declare that NONE of the bad people in history have been far right. Shouldn't even be relevant as I don't see many communists or socialists on here(Social Democrats perhaps, but...that's quite a bit different). And you say that communists and socialists are part of the left, but then you deny that fascists and ethnocentric nationalists are right wing...

Aside from just not understanding what those mean, you're saying ALL the bad people are on  THAT side. Not "my" side, but "that" side. And since you're "left" of center in the modern 2 party system in America, then...you're on the same "side" as ALL the bad people.

 

And then we wonder why some people are openly calling for Civil War(moreso before the election and if the result went a certain way, but still a disturbing number of people are calling for one) and then others are going even further and committing acts of terror and shooting people based on political ideology. 

 

You can tell me where you disagree...if you care to. Otherwise we'll just agree he deserves capital murder and life in prison/death penalty.

You should read one of the shorter posts above boss.  

[scourge165]

1 hour ago, mspart said:

And a Bernie supporter shot Steve Scalise.   Your point?  He is a disturbed individual that kills people.   Lock him up.

mspart

The point was that this thread was started mocking the idea that one specific demographic is the biggest domestic terrorist threat as pointed out by the FBI...THIS YEAR(that's the Trump, Kash Patel FBI). 

The point is according to the FBI, 76% of terrorist attacks carried out have been by extremist right wing, white male ideologues. 

 

I didn't read the first few pages, but was that your response to this thread? That it didn't matter, just a crazy person?

[1032004]

1 hour ago, mspart said:

Apparently only you care.   He's a  murderer, lock him up.   Or is there an exception in case he leans D?  What say you?

mspart

Looks like you care when you can blame violence on “left leaning whack jobs” (which of course is not true about the Trump shooter)

On 9/18/2024 at 3:02 PM, mspart said:

Regarding the thread title:

Let's see.   Who has been involved in the last 3 assassination attempts?    Left leaning whack jobs.   This does not include the broken up conspiracy of an agent of Iran recruiting a hit squad just before Trump received a damaged ear. 

Who were the targets of said attempts:

Steve  Scalise, Trump, Trump.     Republicans all.   I think this lends credence to the thread title. 

mspart

 

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[scourge165]

1 hour ago, El Luchador said:

Im supposed to accept an X post as evidence of something.  Tampon Tim is the least pro business non partisan Governor Minnesota has seen. It also is being said Dayton appointed him too. So we know he has a long list of democrat connections, profited off African immigration and was on the website of an organization who relocates Africans, and was appointed by 2 democrat Governors. We know his party affiliation from 2004 but today it's miraculously unknown but you assume it's Republican. 

So the delusional nut job on Youtube, that is a valid source, but the X post is not. I wonder why that is.

Also, being one of the most "non partisan" Governors is generally considered a good thing. It's often who the most popular ones are. 

Minnesota also ranks among the top 10 most pro-business states, but... that also seems irrelevant as does Tim Waltz in this thread. 

Just seems odd he voted for Trump, you knew why he did this a couple days ago, but now... you're just at a complete loss. 

[headshuck]

How many “attacks” are classified terrorist? Is a school mass shooting considered a terrorist attack in that 76%.

[1032004]

4 hours ago, uncle bernard said:

this video makes one thing make sense, and that this is why your brain doesn’t work. this is schizophrenic nonsense and if it’s typical of where you get your news, your brain is likely mush at this point.  

his entire argument rests on him targeting her because she voted against the immigration healthcare thing, and then he hand waives away the fact that his first target DIDNT VOTE AGAINST IT, because that was clearly a misdirect.

Oh that list of names? Clearly a list of people he was working for/with! Because assassins love carrying around lists of the people who hired them. 

He goes on this hilarious rant about how people don’t pay attention to the details by showing that his voter registrations in OK show party affiliation but his ones in Minnesota don’t. Clearly they’ve been hidden, and that means he was a democrat! Well, if he was as smart as he thinks he is, he would have done a quick google search and found out you don’t register your party affiliation in MN. Add to this, MN Dems have said he did not vote in their primary while MN Reps are declining to reveal due to “privacy” concerns. Doesn’t take a genius to figure that out lol. 

Just the stupidest people alive. 

Sorry following up on this.  So this dude thinks Boelter shooting someone was “a misdirection”?

[scourge165]

3 minutes ago, headshuck said:

How many “attacks” are classified terrorist? Is a school mass shooting considered a terrorist attack in that 76%.

Some may, but I believe a more accurate depiction would be the Jan 1st Cybertruck attack, the guy who ran over a bunch of people (also on the 1st) the Firebombing of a Fertility Clinic, the attack on Shapiro's Mansion...this event we're talking about in this thread. 

 

Quote

 

The FBI considers an event a “terrorist attack” only when it’s:

Violent

Ideologically motivated (political, social, religious, racial)

Intended to intimidate/coerce civilians or government

And falls under either domestic or international jurisdiction

Anything missing in that chain—even a violent act—does not qualify legally as terrorism under FBI standards.

 

 

[scourge165]

9 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Sorry following up on this.  So this dude thinks Boelter shooting someone was “a misdirection”?

Yup. 

That's how unhinged this has become. 

And the planned kidnapping of Whitmer was also a "false flag," Jan6 was all because of that one guy they claim was an FBI plant. 

 

If a nut job attacks Jews over the Israel-Palestine war, it's just a leftist. If a Registered Republican tries shooting Trump, it's a leftist. If a guy walks into a Church and shoots a bunch of black church goers, it's "well, what about this leftist." 

 

It portends that EVERYTHING bad that happens comes from the left. I guess because so far as I can tell in this thread, there are no examples of horrible far right extremists. I wonder if McVeigh would count(I suspect not). 

[1032004]

Hey @Caveira, here’s a new piece of information, regarding the “she voted with Republicans!” angle

The official law enforcement press conference stated that Boelter had been planning this for months

Yet Hortman’s “vote with Republicans” occurred last week.

oopsie

[Caveira]

2 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Hey @Caveira, here’s a new piece of information, regarding the “she voted with Republicans!” angle

The official law enforcement press conference stated that Boelter had been planning this for months

Yet Hortman’s “vote with Republicans” occurred last week.

oopsie

Back to who cares.  Toss him in jail already.   Charge him federally so he can get the death penalty.   Don’t be chicken mn and charge him with second degree murder.  

[1032004]

8 minutes ago, scourge165 said:

Yup. 

That's how unhinged this has become. 

And the planned kidnapping of Whitmer was also a "false flag," Jan6 was all because of that one guy they claim was an FBI plant. 

 

If a nut job attacks Jews over the Israel-Palestine war, it's just a leftist. If a Registered Republican tries shooting Trump, it's a leftist. If a guy walks into a Church and shoots a bunch of black church goers, it's "well, what about this leftist." 

 

It portends that EVERYTHING bad that happens comes from the left. I guess because so far as I can tell in this thread, there are no examples of horrible far right extremists. I wonder if McVeigh would count(I suspect not). 

Ok I gave in and watched it.

I like how he says “he was registered as a Republican way back in 2004, who cares!”  

Yet I’m sure he probably believed his wife interned for Walz in 2010 and thought that backed up his claim.

[headshuck]

 

With that level of criteria, there can’t be that many fbi-confirmed extreme rightwing criminals in that 76% number.

[scourge165]

3 minutes ago, headshuck said:

With that level of criteria, there can’t be that many fbi-confirmed extreme rightwing criminals in that 76% number.

 

Ok. Just...there can't be. Got it. 

[JimmySpeaks]

2 hours ago, 1032004 said:

The difference is @El Luchador has believed lies, I didn’t.

 

Bahahahahahhahahahahhaah. Bull*I poop my pants, don't laugh at me* 

[JimmySpeaks]

1 hour ago, scourge165 said:

So the delusional nut job on Youtube, that is a valid source, but the X post is not. I wonder why that is.

Also, being one of the most "non partisan" Governors is generally considered a good thing. It's often who the most popular ones are. 

Minnesota also ranks among the top 10 most pro-business states, but... that also seems irrelevant as does Tim Waltz in this thread. 

Just seems odd he voted for Trump, you knew why he did this a couple days ago, but now... you're just at a complete loss. 

Just seems odd his roommate said he voted for Trump.  You have proof otherwise? 

[JimmySpeaks]

1 hour ago, scourge165 said:

 

Ok. Just...there can't be. Got it. 

Domestic terrorist is happening all over America right now with the riots.  Far more on the left 

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[1032004]

8 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

Bahahahahahhahahahahhaah. Bull*I poop my pants, don't laugh at me* 

What lie did I believe?

[JimmySpeaks]

1 minute ago, 1032004 said:

What lie did I believe?

Start with Biden