White Conservatives are the biggest threat

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[Caveira]

Do any of the lefties on the board think the family should not get deported?

[1032004]

1 hour ago, Scouts Honor said:

no they were on expired visas

Incorrect, just the attacker was.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/family-boulder-firebombing-suspect-taken-federal-custody-sources

[Caveira]

1 minute ago, 1032004 said:

Incorrect, just the attacker was.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/family-boulder-firebombing-suspect-taken-federal-custody-sources

 

A senior State Department official confirmed to Fox News that all visas for the Soliman family have been revoked. In a statement provided by the senior official, the department emphasized its commitment to national security, saying, "The Secretary did exactly what he said he would — support the administration’s objective of getting terrorists and their family members out of America."

The family is being processed for expedited removal, sources said.

[1032004]

1 minute ago, Caveira said:

 

 

A senior State Department official confirmed to Fox News that all visas for the Soliman family have been revoked. In a statement provided by the senior official, the department emphasized its commitment to national security, saying, "The Secretary did exactly what he said he would — support the administration’s objective of getting terrorists and their family members out of America."

The family is being processed for expedited removal, sources said.

Yeah, they were revoked after the attack.  Which means they were valid prior to that.

Edited June 5 by 1032004

[Caveira]

1 minute ago, 1032004 said:

Yeah, they were revoked after the attack.  Which means they were valid prior to that.

I don’t know what the argument is.   Isn’t it policy to not allow known terrorist families into the country.  They’re just being booted….   You don’t think they should stay do you ?

[1032004]

Just now, Caveira said:

I don’t know what the argument is.   Isn’t it policy to not allow known terrorist families into the country.  They’re just being booted….   You don’t think they should stay do you ?

No.  Although they might have a decent legal argument if they (the children in particular) can show they had no knowledge of the attack.

Mostly just pointing out that before the attack occurred they (the family, not the attacker) were here illegally. 

[WrestlingRasta]

Couple side notes:   Federal judge has temporarily blocked the deportation of the family pending hearings.  While the attacker was on an expired visa, the mother and children were legal.  The oldest just graduated high school three days before the attack, and won a "Best and Brightest" scholarship which she intends to use in medical school.  According to reports the wife has fully cooperated. 

[Saylors_Tiny_Willie]

Do any of the MAGA types on this board think the family should be denied due process?

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

51 minutes ago, Caveira said:

I don’t know what the argument is.   Isn’t it policy to not allow known terrorist families into the country.  They’re just being booted….   You don’t think they should stay do you ?

... but she thinks she wants to study medicine!

[Caveira]

10 minutes ago, Saylors_Tiny_Willie said:

Do any of the MAGA types on this board think the family should be denied due process?

bye bye 
 

family members of terrorists are not generally allowed into the United States. The Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) was expanded after the 9/11 terrorist attacks to deny entry to representatives of groups that endorse terrorism, prominent individuals who endorse terrorism, and (in certain circumstances) the spouses and children of aliens who are removable on terrorism grounds. Additionally, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has stated that it will consider social media content indicating an alien endorsing, espousing, promoting, or supporting antisemitic terrorism as a negative factor in immigration benefit requests. 

[1032004]

50 minutes ago, Saylors_Tiny_Willie said:

Do any of the MAGA types on this board think the family should be denied due process?

Honest question, can we as a country revoke a visa for any reason?

[mspart]

That is a good honest question.   I would say, they could for cause at any time.   Is this porper cause?   If this guy is defined to be a terrorist, then I suppose they could have their visas revoked (as they have been) as being family of a terrorist, which as has been pointed out is not per the law.   So if he is deemed to be a terrorist, the family could have their visas revoked (which has happened) and they could be deported.   But I think first he needs to be deemed a terrorist for all of this to follow.   I don't know if that has happened. 

mspart

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

20 minutes ago, mspart said:

That is a good honest question.   I would say, they could for cause at any time.   Is this porper cause?   If this guy is defined to be a terrorist, then I suppose they could have their visas revoked (as they have been) as being family of a terrorist, which as has been pointed out is not per the law.   So if he is deemed to be a terrorist, the family could have their visas revoked (which has happened) and they could be deported.   But I think first he needs to be deemed a terrorist for all of this to follow.   I don't know if that has happened. 

mspart

He is, by almost all accepted definitions, a terrorist.  Only a matter of time before the federal government officially rules him a terrorist.

Edited June 5 by Interviewed_at_Weehawken

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3 hours ago, Caveira said:

I don’t know what the argument is.   Isn’t it policy to not allow known terrorist families into the country.  They’re just being booted….   You don’t think they should stay do you ?

exactly what i had just posted 

[Scouts Honor]

we are going to buy a new house

yes, lets wait til the daughter graduates

 

we are going to buy a nice new sports car

yes, lets wait til the daughter graduates

 

im going to kill me some jews

yes, lets wait til the daughter graduates

[1032004]

2 hours ago, Caveira said:

bye bye 
 

family members of terrorists are not generally allowed into the United States. The Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) was expanded after the 9/11 terrorist attacks to deny entry to representatives of groups that endorse terrorism, prominent individuals who endorse terrorism, and (in certain circumstances) the spouses and children of aliens who are removable on terrorism grounds. Additionally, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has stated that it will consider social media content indicating an alien endorsing, espousing, promoting, or supporting antisemitic terrorism as a negative factor in immigration benefit requests. 

Ok but 1) this seems to be more talking about denying entry than booting people already here.  And 2) it calls out “in certain instances” when talking about family members 

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1 hour ago, 1032004 said:

Ok but 1) this seems to be more talking about denying entry than booting people already here.  And 2) it calls out “in certain instances” when talking about family members 

The rules for booting are the same.   I just neglected to post that.  

[Offthemat]

Soliman, his wife, and five children first came to the U.S. on August 27, 2022. They were granted entry until February 26, 2023. On September 29, 2022, Soliman filed for asylum, listing his wife and five children as dependents, in Denver, Colorado.

This is from https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/06/04/secretary-noem-announces-ice-detains-boulder-terrorist-solimans-family

listed as dependents, not individually visaed.  That would mean they are dependents on an expired visa, otherwise known as illegal, wouldn’t it?

It looks like a fraudulent asylum claim, as well.

Edited June 5 by Offthemat

[1032004]

19 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

Soliman, his wife, and five children first came to the U.S. on August 27, 2022. They were granted entry until February 26, 2023. On September 29, 2022, Soliman filed for asylum, listing his wife and five children as dependents, in Denver, Colorado.

This is from https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/06/04/secretary-noem-announces-ice-detains-boulder-terrorist-solimans-family

listed as dependents, not individually visaed.  That would mean they are dependents on an expired visa, otherwise known as illegal, wouldn’t it?

It looks like a fraudulent asylum claim, as well.

If that is the case then Fox News was wrong.

 

[Caveira]

42 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

If that is the case then Fox News was wrong.

 

They will be deported shortly.  

That or..

Someone will make a statue of them in Washburn fair oaks park in place of that one that was torn down in Minneapolis …… and free housing on Bloomington Avenue in Minneapolis.

[Saylors_Tiny_Willie]

7 hours ago, Caveira said:

bye bye 
 

family members of terrorists are not generally allowed into the United States. The Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) was expanded after the 9/11 terrorist attacks to deny entry to representatives of groups that endorse terrorism, prominent individuals who endorse terrorism, and (in certain circumstances) the spouses and children of aliens who are removable on terrorism grounds. Additionally, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has stated that it will consider social media content indicating an alien endorsing, espousing, promoting, or supporting antisemitic terrorism as a negative factor in immigration benefit requests. 

Once again, you didn't answer the question.

[Saylors_Tiny_Willie]

5 hours ago, mspart said:

That is a good honest question.   I would say, they could for cause at any time.   Is this porper cause?   If this guy is defined to be a terrorist, then I suppose they could have their visas revoked (as they have been) as being family of a terrorist, which as has been pointed out is not per the law.   So if he is deemed to be a terrorist, the family could have their visas revoked (which has happened) and they could be deported.   But I think first he needs to be deemed a terrorist for all of this to follow.   I don't know if that has happened. 

mspart

You're good with collective punishment then?

[Saylors_Tiny_Willie]

3 hours ago, Offthemat said:

Soliman, his wife, and five children first came to the U.S. on August 27, 2022. They were granted entry until February 26, 2023. On September 29, 2022, Soliman filed for asylum, listing his wife and five children as dependents, in Denver, Colorado.

This is from https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/06/04/secretary-noem-announces-ice-detains-boulder-terrorist-solimans-family

listed as dependents, not individually visaed.  That would mean they are dependents on an expired visa, otherwise known as illegal, wouldn’t it?

It looks like a fraudulent asylum claim, as well.

You're an immigration attorney too now?