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3 minutes ago, red viking said:

Trump lies every time he opens his mouth and you want to whine about this? 

That has to do with what in terms of the corrupt cover up around Biden's mental decline?

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3 minutes ago, Bigbrog said:

That has to do with what in terms of the corrupt cover up around Biden's mental decline?

The democrats suffered for it and it helped the wingers. You benefited and are still whining like a baby. 

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Just now, red viking said:

The democrats suffered for it and it helped the wingers. You benefited and are still whining like a baby. 

What did I benefit from??  And what am I "whining like a baby" about??  Please show me a single post where I have companied about Biden's mental decline after Trump won....I don't even think I ever mentioned it on here before hand.  I personally felt sorry for the man.  Thus, I have NEVER ONCE brought it up or even commented on it.  What I have commented on is in this thread about you claiming it is not "corruption" that it was purposely covered up by so many people in the government and the media...that is the very essence of corruption!!

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1 hour ago, Bigbrog said:

What did I benefit from??  And what am I "whining like a baby" about??  Please show me a single post where I have companied about Biden's mental decline after Trump won....I don't even think I ever mentioned it on here before hand.  I personally felt sorry for the man.  Thus, I have NEVER ONCE brought it up or even commented on it.  What I have commented on is in this thread about you claiming it is not "corruption" that it was purposely covered up by so many people in the government and the media...that is the very essence of corruption!!

" the government" and " the media" lmao. Wingers love to use these ambiguous terms. 

I heard or read about his cognitive issues almost every day for several months. What hole were you living in? 

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1 hour ago, red viking said:

You should look up definition of corruption. Claiming that covering up health issues is corruptoon is a huge stretch. 

it's a way to backdoor your preferred candidate who was roundly defeated...

Kamala

Posted
1 hour ago, Bigbrog said:

I didn't even think this was a debate and was pretty much agreed upon on both sides that it was very bad that they covered up Biden's mental health...i.e., corruption

it's not.

red lobster is just that stupid

Posted
1 hour ago, red viking said:

You should look up definition of corruption. Claiming that covering up health issues is corruptoon is a huge stretch. 

Then why is it worth being the subject of a book and a topic of discussion by the side that did it?  If it is not remarkable then why are they remarking?

People who tolerate me on a daily basis . . . they are the real heroes.

Posted
1 hour ago, red viking said:

The democrats suffered for it and it helped the wingers. You benefited and are still whining like a baby. 

i benefited from four years of an invalid pushing inflation up? 

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21 minutes ago, red viking said:

" the government" and " the media" lmao. Wingers love to use these ambiguous terms. 

I heard or read about his cognitive issues almost every day for several months. What hole were you living in? 

i agree, during the last 4 years, they were one and the same

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21 minutes ago, red viking said:

" the government" and " the media" lmao. Wingers love to use these ambiguous terms. 

I heard or read about his cognitive issues almost every day for several months. What hole were you living in? 

the problem is you didn't read about the problems with his cognitive issues.

you read defense of the sharp as a tack dementia patient

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20 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said:

the problem is you didn't read about the problems with his cognitive issues.

you read defense of the sharp as a tack dementia patient

Every Democrat I know admitted he had cognitive issues and did not appear to be physically healthy either. 

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18 minutes ago, red viking said:

Every Democrat I know admitted he had cognitive issues and did not appear to be physically healthy either. 

show me a quote or link from the last 4 years from every democrat you know.

all one needs to do is listen to tapper to see that this isn't true

Posted
1 hour ago, red viking said:

Every Democrat I know admitted he had cognitive issues and did not appear to be physically healthy either. 

Clearly you don't hang out with very many Ds.   

https://www.newsweek.com/what-top-democrats-said-then-now-about-joe-bidens-decline-2073468

What Top Democrats Said Then, And Now, About Joe Biden's Decline

Published May 16, 2025 at 5:33 PM EDT Updated May 16, 2025 at 5:34 PM EDT
 
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Josh Shapiro

Shapiro, the popular Pennsylvania governor, transitioned from publicly dismissing any concerns about Biden's cognitive abilities during the 2024 election cycle to later asserting he had privately voiced concerns to Biden about his shortcomings during the same period.

n an interview with Politico published on May 14, Shapiro said: "I can tell you that I was very frank with the president during his campaign about what I saw were some of the shortcomings. I was very honest with him in a private setting about that."

What he said in 2024:

Speaking with Politico last August, when asked directly if he had concerns about Biden's cognitive decline, Shapiro responded confidently:
"Not at all, and I've been in regular contact with the president."

Pete Buttigieg

The former transportation secretary transitioned from staunchly defending President Biden's mental acuity during the 2024 campaign to acknowledging, post-election, that Biden's decision to run for a second term may have been a misstep for the Democratic Party.

Post-election:

During a town hall event in Iowa on May 13, Buttigieg reflected on Biden's 2024 campaign, stating, "Maybe, you know, right now, with the benefit of hindsight, I think most people would agree that is the case," when asked if Democrats would have been better off without Biden as the nominee.

He added, "We're also not in a position to wallow in hindsight. We've got to get ready for some fundamental tests of the future of this country and this party."

What he said in 2024:

In a July 2 interview with Spectrum News, post-debate, Buttigieg defended President Biden's capabilities, describing him as a "focused and disciplined leader." He emphasized Biden's effectiveness, stating, "Every time I needed something from him from the West Wing I got it."

Rep. Ro Khanna

Khanna, a progressive California lawmaker, went from strongly defending Biden's cognitive fitness in mid-2024, emphasizing personal interactions to back his claims, to openly stating later that it was a mistake for Biden to run again, calling it "painfully obvious" Biden should not have sought re-election.

Post-election:

In a statement shared with the Washington Post on May 14, Khanna said: "In my few interactions at public events, I found [Biden] coherent and proud of his record, but it is now painfully obvious he should not have run. We should have had an open primary. We must acknowledge this truth to regain trust with the American people."

What he said in 2024:

Speaking with CNN in mid-2024, responding to speculation about Biden's cognitive health, Khanna said: "I've seen the president twice in the past two weeks... He's completely mentally sharp."

Sen. Chris Murphy

The junior senator from Connecticut transitioned from defending Biden's mental sharpness in early 2024 to explicitly acknowledging Biden experienced cognitive decline after the election, highlighting it as a key factor in Democrats' defeat.

Post-election:

In an interview with Politico published on May 14, Murphy said: "There's no doubt that former President Biden suffered cognitive decline in office. The debate is whether it compromised his ability to act as chief executive... clearly, in retrospect, we should have done something different."

What he said in 2024:

On CBS's Face the Nation on February 11, 2024, Murphy confidently remarked: "Joe Biden is the only person who's beaten Donald Trump... I know that he is ready for this campaign."

Sen. Elizabeth Warren

Warren also transitioned from a steadfast defender of President Biden's mental acuity during the 2024 campaign to a more nuanced stance post-election, acknowledging the complexities surrounding his cognitive fitness.

Post-election:

In an interview on the Talk Easy podcast with Sam Fragoso, released on April 20, Warren was asked if she regretted asserting Biden's sharpness. She responded, "I said what I believed to be true."

When pressed on whether she observed any decline from 2021 to 2024, she stated, "Not when I said that." She elaborated, "He was sharp. He was on his feet. I saw him at live events. I had meetings with him a couple of times."

Fragoso then challenged that "on his feet" was faint praise and Warren conceded, "Fair enough. Fair enough. Look, the question is what are we going to do now?"

What she said in 2024:

In multiple appearances throughout early and mid-2024, Warren publicly defended President Biden's mental fitness. For instance, during a July 2024 interview, she stated, "The man is sharp. The man knows what he's talking about. He does the job." She consistently emphasized her confidence in his capabilities, dismissing concerns about his age and cognitive health

George Clooney

Clooney transitioned from strongly defending Biden's cognitive fitness in October 2023, to publicly expressing deep concerns about Biden's mental acuity and urging him not to run in a high-profile July 2024 op-ed, and finally acknowledging after the election a specific troubling encounter with Biden—an event that occurred before he published his piece that helped lead to Biden's exit from the race.

Post-election:

In a statement provided to the Washington Post on May 14, Clooney confirmed:
"The anecdote described in the book about the former president not recognizing me is unfortunately accurate... In hindsight, I have to acknowledge the episode troubled me more than I let on at the time."

What he said in July 2024 (Op-ed, written after the incident above):

In a widely discussed op-ed published in The New York Times on July 10, 2024—written after the debate and incident in which Biden failed to recognize him—Clooney wrote:

"I love Joe Biden—as a senator, as vice president, and as president. I consider him a friend, and I believe in him. Believe in his character. Believe in his morals. But the one battle he cannot win is the fight against time. None of us can. It's devastating to say it, but the Joe Biden I was with three weeks ago at the fundraiser was not the Joe 'big F-ing deal' Biden of 2010. He wasn't even the Joe Biden of 2020. He was the same man we all witnessed at the debate."

David Axelrod

Axelrod, a longtime Obama adviser, initially questioned Biden's wisdom in continuing his campaign in November 2023, issuing a notably cool statement on the president's decision to run the following year. But after the election loss, he significantly sharpened his criticism, openly confirming Biden's cognitive decline and labeling Biden's decision to run again "irresponsible."

Post-election:

In a conversation with NPR's Morning Edition on May 14, Axelrod said: "It was an irresponsible decision on [Biden's] part, and frankly, on his family's part... They adapted his schedule to his declining condition. The anecdotes [in the book] are troubling."

What he said in 2023:

Axelrod posted on X (formerly Twitter) on November 5, 2023, following weak Biden poll numbers: "Only @JoeBiden can make this decision. If he continues to run, he will be the nominee... What he needs to decide is whether that is wise; whether it's in his best interest or the country's."

You can read the rest.   There may have been some local Ds that were worried but no elected D was concerned.  

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