Is theft of federal funds LEGAL?

[headshuck]

Everyone also wants the tariffs to have instant results. So unreasonable on both sides.

[Paul158]

2 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Why wouldn’t they?  The admin has been posting their “evidence” against Abrego Garcia.  Including his wife’s address.

Using false identities and false information to get social security funds. Using false identities or false information to get unemployment benefits. Using false information to acquire small business loans. Those are all federal funds. Falsely acquired. What do you call it?

[Le duke]

Everyone also wants the tariffs to have instant results. So unreasonable on both sides.

Well, they WILL have instant results.


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[Le duke]

Using false identities and false information to get social security funds. Using false identities or false information to get unemployment benefits. Using false information to acquire small business loans. Those are all federal funds. Falsely acquired. What do you call it?

Don’t know how else to tell you this, but, SSDI (and associated fraud) is how poor, overwhelmingly Republican areas survive.


https://www.mathematica.org/dataviz/state-disability-maps


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[1032004]

13 minutes ago, Paul158 said:

Using false identities and false information to get social security funds. Using false identities or false information to get unemployment benefits. Using false information to acquire small business loans. Those are all federal funds. Falsely acquired. What do you call it?

That’s fraud.   But the claims from DOGE were only that 200-year olds were “on the SS rolls,” not that they were actually receiving money.   As @Le duke said, if they arrested anyone for it, we probably would have heard about it.

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[red viking]

1 hour ago, headshuck said:

Everyone also wants the tariffs to have instant results. So unreasonable on both sides.

The only instant result is severe economic problems. Stock investors have recently been betting that Trump continues to cave but u never know w that guy. 

It takes yrs to get the manufacturing going. People aren't gonna invest in new manufacturing plants based upon assumption that next President will continue this trade war. 

Conditions are changing on a weekly basis. Really dumb for anybody to invest huge amounts based upon any assumptions right now, except that we'll have a different administration in 3.7 yrs, and very different makeup of congress too.  

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[Caveira]

this interview is crazy.  Catching Feds deleting data… sweeping unspent $$ into private bank accounts with no oversight to use for private jets and parties.    The gov is so darn corrupt.

 

 

[Caveira]

If true.   Sounds like law enforcement getting involved 

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP86NYHHo/

[Paul158]

40 minutes ago, Caveira said:

this interview is crazy.  Catching Feds deleting data… sweeping unspent $$ into private bank accounts with no oversight to use for private jets and parties.    The gov is so darn corrupt.

 

 

Good job. Thats one of the best videos.

[Paul158]

32 minutes ago, Caveira said:

If true.   Sounds like law enforcement getting involved 

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP86NYHHo/

I'm surprised it took this long to start charging and arresting them. Like I said before there are a lot of people erasing hard drives and shredded lots of evidence.

[red viking]

Lots of accusations, based upon TikTok and YouTube videos. The wingers are unbelievable. They'll literally believe ANYTHING, as long as it's what they WANT to believe. 

[Bigbrog]

1 minute ago, red viking said:

Lots of accusations, based upon TikTok and YouTube videos. The wingers are unbelievable. They'll literally believe ANYTHING, as long as it's what they WANT to believe. 

So you didn't watch the videos then...got it.

And you literally believe ANYTHING, as long as it's what you WANT to believe...especially if it has no basis in fact/reason/data/logic/etc.

[1032004]

2 hours ago, Caveira said:

this interview is crazy.  Catching Feds deleting data… sweeping unspent $$ into private bank accounts with no oversight to use for private jets and parties.    The gov is so darn corrupt.

 

 

Crazy?  I just watched it, and they didn’t talk about deleting data and sweeping unspent money into private bank accounts.  What is your source for that?

It hardly went into any detail at all.  I did not realize the extent of the # of people they fired though.  283k, half of the job losses of the entire country.  And Jesse Watters was celebrating it.

[Caveira]

4 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Crazy?  I just watched it, and they didn’t talk about deleting data and sweeping unspent money into private bank accounts.  What is your source for that?

It hardly went into any detail at all.  I did not realize the extent of the # of people they fired though.  283k, half of the job losses of the entire country.  And Jesse Watters was celebrating it.

Maybe it’s in a diff clip but it’s in that interview.  Problem is tik tok has good clean edited copies to watch so you don’t have to watch full hour vids but the peanut gallery thinks putting real news clips on tik tok is some kind of bad sorcery.     When I come across a tik tok I’ll post it 

 

harder to find on YouTube unfortunately.  

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[1032004]

7 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Maybe it’s in a diff clip but it’s in that interview.  Problem is tik tok has good clean edited copies to watch so you don’t have to watch full hour vids but the peanut gallery thinks putting real news clips on tik tok is some kind of bad sorcery.     When I come across a tik tok I’ll post it 

 

harder to find on YouTube unfortunately.  

I don’t have tik tok

[red viking]

43 minutes ago, Bigbrog said:

So you didn't watch the videos then...got it.

And you literally believe ANYTHING, as long as it's what you WANT to believe...especially if it has no basis in fact/reason/data/logic/etc.

If you have something with a credible source I"lll watch it. 

It's funny how the wingers complain about any little mistake by the "mainstream media" and then literally swallow up anything they hear on the internet based upon zero evidence. 

[Scouts Honor]

5 hours ago, red viking said:

And it MUST be there because Trump, DOGE and whack job fringe rt wing media says it does. 

everything you DO and SAY is b/c of trump

so yeah...whatever 

[Scouts Honor]

4 hours ago, 1032004 said:

That’s fraud.   But the claims from DOGE were only that 200-year olds were “on the SS rolls,” not that they were actually receiving money.   As @Le duke said, if they arrested anyone for it, we probably would have heard about it.

doesn't understand whats going on

claims to understand that 200 yo's are dead

[Scouts Honor]

rachel hasn't told him what to believe about the videos yet.

[Paul158]

4 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said:

doesn't understand whats going on

claims to understand that 200 yo's are dead

My neighbor is 188 years old, and he still gets social security. His son is 160 years old and he still collecting social security.They say they are related to RV.

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[1032004]

20 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said:

doesn't understand whats going on

claims to understand that 200 yo's are dead

Do you think we are sending SS checks to someone that would be 200 if they were alive?

[red viking]

22 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said:

rachel hasn't told him what to believe about the videos yet.

This is well documented and been explained many times. Several dead people are in the database but that doesn't mean one bit that they are getting any money. The vast majority to all of them are NOT getting anything whatsoever. 

Just another winger lie. They're a dime a dozen. 

[Scouts Honor]

so tell me ...where is the money going? 

[Scouts Honor]

20 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Do you think we are sending SS checks to someone that would be 200 if they were alive?

god bless, you are thicker than RV

[Caveira]

54 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

I don’t have tik tok

Good news I found it.  
 

link:

Transcript to read:

and thanks to President Trump he's now
signed two executive orders to start to
reduce the number of agencies in the
government and the Institute of Peace
was one of them which is why our team
went in to try and understand what was
going on and that's when we found all
the craziness like the weapons in their
armory we found the payments to the
Taliban okay
oh yeah try to hide the evidence right
so just a few hours after we got into
their headquarters we found that their
chief accountant had actually deleted
over a terabyte of accounting records
from several years so you'd have to ask
the question well why would somebody do
that and the Doge team fortunately was
able to recover that data with the help
of a few great employees at the
Institute of Peace um and I think the
most troubling thing was they received
$55 million a year from Congress and any
money that went unspent instead of
returning that to Congress they would
sweep it into a private bank account
which had no congressional oversight and
that's what they would use to fund
things like events at their headquarters
and the private jets and so I think it's
a great example because most most
Americans don't know what's going on at
a lot of these smaller agencies and this
is I think the most extreme case of some
of the um wasteful spend that we're
finding so the agencies are hiding money
from you they're sending it to the
Taliban they have loaded weapons in the
department buildings at the Institute of
Peace at the Institute of Peace yes
that's right so this is a cover up when
you guys roll in this one yes a cover up
yes it's a cover up
they did delete a vast amount of
financial information that's uh really a
definition of a cover up isn't that
illegal to delete evidence yes shred
documents it is it's it's certainly
illegal to delete accounting records
that the that Congress would certainly
want to know where the congressionally
appropriated funds are going from from
taxpayers when you catch them going
Hillary style on their
computers do you refer this to the
Department of Justice in this case we
did refer the evidence in the accounting
example to the FBI and DOJ um and we
were proud to do that um so yes we did