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After updating the scoring model I decided to looking into why the shifts that occurred had occurred. I was really focused on the seeds in the twenties and thirties as there was some expected smoothing out in that area. And sure enough, the #22, #23, #25, and #29 seeds all had their best ever performance. Though the #27, #31, and #32 had their worst performance ever. 

But what really jumped out was the #4, #5, and #6 seeds had their worst performance in the 16+ seed era.

And it wasn't even close for the #5 seed.

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This year the 5 seed produced only 3 All-Americans.

  • That is tied for the lowest total ever in the 8 AA era (1979 - 2025).
  • In 1980, when there were also only 3 AA's from the #5 seed they finished second, fourth, and eighth.
  • This year they finished fifth, fifth, and eighth. No #5 seed beat his seed.
  • This year the #12 seed had more AA's (5) than the #5 seed (3). That had never happened before.

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Edited by Wrestleknownothing
  • Bob 1
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Posted

Mad respect for building this.

Were there any new seeding criteria that were added (or existing that were taken away) that may have over or underweighted certain conferences over others? Ie, where there any structurally over or underweighted talent pools via this years seeding process?

Posted
1 hour ago, wrestle87 said:

Mad respect for building this.

Were there any new seeding criteria that were added (or existing that were taken away) that may have over or underweighted certain conferences over others? Ie, where there any structurally over or underweighted talent pools via this years seeding process?

Good question. The only thing I can think of is the re-weighting of some criteria, but not sure of anything else.

  • Bob 1

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Posted

A lot of the 5 seeds really had no business being 5 seeds. 

Figs really did nothing during the season to earn that spot. Serrano was over seeded, Happel placed.  Parco was injured, Cannon was over seeded having a record propped up by opens.  Ramirez is historically bad at NCAAs, Ruiz placed, Berge was over seeded thanks to a lucky '24 tourney, Beard struggles at tournaments due to weight issues, and Keuter placed.

Figs lost to Daugherty at the BXII tournament and really showed he was either having weight issues or HEW.  Didn't deserve the 5 seed.

Serrano got the seed by winning BXII but that was an insanely weak weight in that conference

Happel lost to Hardy and then Composto.  I guess one could argue that he should have beaten Composto and took 4th instead of 5th

Parco had freak injury.  Unfortunately that happens

Cannon was tOSU's starter for the entire season and got a lucky bracket at BIGs to make the finals which got him the 5 seed.  If Miller wasn't the 1, getting majored by Kasak anywhere but the finals and he isn't the 5.

Ramirez is a blood round professional.

Ruiz did as well as could be expected lost to Haines and went 1-1 with Devos

Berge was either injured or just broken by Allred in a wild match

Beard is too big for 197. He's much more beatable on Fridays

Keuter got a bad draw in wrestlebacks.  Shultz is just too big for him.

 

Posted
13 hours ago, SNL Wrestling said:

Sick stuff! 

Slick stuff!

Tanxs, once again to WKN.

D3

Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.

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